Does vanu suck

[Mikamas]

Does anyone think Vanu Sovin. sucks??
If so let me know and tell me y.

Thanks

_Mighty Mighty Miakams_

[kerosene31]

No. They may need a slight tweaking to their weapons. The Vanu are pretty much equal with the NC IMHO. I haven't played against the TR enough since the nerf to say how well we do against them.

The problem is that many people think that the Vanu are terrible, so they go to other realms. The Vanu lose more due to less manpower than anything else. Looking at each server last night, Vanu were short-handed on all of them.

I look on the positive side of being outnumbered- I get less grief points :)

[Agathon]

Hello,

From my experience they do not suck equipment wise or coding wise. They just need to work on their tactics, and all the bad talk about them is making people not play them frankly. It is the same reason everyone saying the TR were over powered had a ton of folks switching to TR. Those electrical weapons they have hurt like hell frankly, and I've been killed just as easily by VS as TR. It is just a matter of tactics from my experience. The VS are scattered all over, do not work well together usually, and their numbers are lower.

I'm considering trying one just to get a flying max! Besides, they are purple, and they look cool. Considering myself and everyone I know IRL who plays are in a clan/outfit of silly people with a silly name like Das Mallows, a Barney suited, silly looking, Vanu might be the faction of choice for us after all. /chuckle

;-)

[Kaltagesta]

please will u guys stop moaning about Vanu being crap tacticians because we are always spread out? someone else has already said this - if we had the weapons capable of doing full-frontal assault then we would. im not saying our weapons are bad, just that they arent good for battering rams, and so we must use other tactics, for which our weapons are better suited

[Agathon]

Hello,

I'm just stating my opinion based on what I've seen on Emerald. I mean spread out not as in a squad of guys really far apart on the same field of battle. I mean zerging compared to not. When TR and NC go on assaults, they have HUGE forces that all stick together to make the attacks effective and easy. I've NEVER seen the Vanu on Emerald do this frankly, but then maybe I jsut wasn't around. I'm not being negative about you guys either. You have good players and leaders, and you can kick butt just as easily as the other two factions. I'm hopeful you do get stuff working together frankly, because it will be more fun overall for everyone.

Your weapons are fine. But then I thought the TR weapons were fine. I've only fought AGAINST TR also, and even as a full-time NC player I still think all of this nerf stuff is silly. People complain too much. As much as you say it isn't about tactics, I still believe it is at least 80% tactics on the emerald server. If you think it is your gear, then why are the Vanu owning folks on other servers? Their gear is fine! hee hee

:-)

[Jarlo]

:clap:

Horray more people who have never played Vanu arguing that vanu are fine!

Please play the faction prior to judging them.

Vanu need a bit of tweaking but they are fine overall. Just stay away from the lasher and pulsar and thresher and maxes and you will do well.

[gonnagetyou]

I bleed Purple!:D

No we don't suck. I think we're just a harder faction to play right. We can kick some serious ass when we want to and everyone uses their brains a little.

[NeoTassadar]

Another one? Ban please. :D

[Happy lil Elf]

No, Vanu does not suck. However if you want to do well with them you can't just use the run through the front door guns blazing tactic that works so well for NC/TR. Against the same number of people you have to be sneakier and more organzied in most cases.

And spare me the Vanu MAXs suck thing. Nothing sucks more than being up on your base wall feeling somewhat safe and having 3 or 4 Vanu MAXs drop next to you, do "vvw", and then end your life :p

[kerosene31]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
And spare me the Vanu MAXs suck thing. Nothing sucks more than being up on your base wall feeling somewhat safe and having 3 or 4 Vanu MAXs drop next to you, do "vvw", and then end your life :p

Take a few steps and head inside and watch our advantage and special ability disappear.

[Nitsch]

I remember one person saying during beta something like this:

"Whatever empire I am fighting seems to be overpowered until I roll a character of that empire and realize they suck."

[Seer]

The vanu sovereignty does not suck, but their maxs are fairly overrated.

[Onizuka]

I just think the vanu are a totally different "type" of empire, an may require a bit more experience.

[Jarlo]

I have BR 11 NC and BR 15 VS. NC is fine, VS needs help. I do fine with VS if I avoid lasher, pulsar, thresher, and max suits... that is just wrong!

[ColdbringeR]

Vanu suck because they are outnumbered and unorganized. They are outnumbered because they are purple. Purple is a crappy color. Nobody likes purple unless they are gay or female. So since there are so many gays and females on the Vanu they tend to be disorganized because they are always chatting with eachother about how their command ranks make them look like they are wearing bell bottoms, and how it's sooo out of style.

:D

[shinken]

Originally posted by =ColdbringeR=
Vanu suck because they are outnumbered and unorganized. They are outnumbered because they are purple. Purple is a crappy color. Nobody likes purple unless they are gay or female. So since there are so many gays and females on the Vanu they tend to be disorganized because they are always chatting with eachother about how their command ranks make them look like they are wearing bell bottoms, and how it's sooo out of style.

:D
cant wait for neotassadar to in here and flame you for this comment

[kidriot]

the vanu faction doesn't suck but the people playing as vanu sure seem to

[NeoTassadar]

Originally posted by =ColdbringeR=
Vanu suck because they are outnumbered and unorganized. They are outnumbered because they are purple. Purple is a crappy color. Nobody likes purple unless they are gay or female. So since there are so many gays and females on the Vanu they tend to be disorganized because they are always chatting with eachother about how their command ranks make them look like they are wearing bell bottoms, and how it's sooo out of style.

:D You judge a faction by its color? Okay, it's true that most people have an aversion to purple, and it's probably why we're outnumbered (unless it's the chainguns and guided missles the other sides have). I'm fine with purple and I am one of the horniest straight guys out there. I used to hate it, but for reasons I will not repeat yet again, I got over it. Most otakus are fine with purple (see: Neon Genesis Evangelion). Your comment on our being disorganized is based on an assumption, based on another assumption, based on another. Not likely reliable.

[kidriot]

my "assumption" is based on experience. it's based on defending Hossin nearly everyday against the Vanu horde. it's based on the fighting at Searhus where the only times Vanu seem to get a foothold is with superior numbers. it isn't the weapons it's the people themselves.

the Vanu I've fought suck as a collective.

the only non zerg fights I've had the pleasure of participating in are against Zero Defiance.

[NeoTassadar]

=ColdbringeR= = kidriot?

Hmm...Either someone's being sneaky or someone's being a dumbass.

[kidriot]

not being a dumbass. I knew you were talking to him.

"Your comment on our being disorganized is based on an assumption, based on another assumption, based on another. Not likely reliable."

that's what I was talking about.

[NeoTassadar]

Ahem...
Originally posted by kidriot
my "assumption" is based on experience.
Nice attempt at cover, though.

[kidriot]

like it matters anyway. vanu still suck from what I've seen.

[NeoTassadar]

:rolleyes: Real intelligent.

[kidriot]

that's something the vanu could use when organizing their attacks: intelligence.

[TheJingle]

I love all the "Vanu arent bad they just need to use better tactics than the enemy to win" comments . If the game was truly balanced teams using "equal" tactics would be an even fight , but for the vanu to win they have to use much better tactics . I dont think the vanu are super underpowered though we could use a bit of help in some areas (i stress the term "a bit" , we arent a total pile of crap or anything) . Saying the pulsar is fine because you can kill inferior enemies in it doesnt mean it isnt a pile of crap compared to the other ones (thats my main problem with VS is that the pulsar is such a POS , and yes , it really is....) . The lasher could use a bit of love(just like the TR chaingun could) and the maxes could too but its nothing huge . The Vanu are still underpowered though weaponwise, just because a group of good Vanu can kill a group of TR that are unorganized doesnt mean theyre unbalanced . Id imagine the same group of players playing TR or NC would generally have an easier time .

[TheJingle]

And when i said inferior enemies I meant inferior skill...not sure there is any weapon inferior to the Pulsar.... ;)

[ColdbringeR]

Originally posted by NeoTassadar
You judge a faction by its color? Okay, it's true that most people have an aversion to purple, and it's probably why we're outnumbered (unless it's the chainguns and guided missles the other sides have). I'm fine with purple and I am one of the horniest straight guys out there. I used to hate it, but for reasons I will not repeat yet again, I got over it. Most otakus are fine with purple (see: Neon Genesis Evangelion). Your comment on our being disorganized is based on an assumption, based on another assumption, based on another. Not likely reliable.

Eh, i was just kiddin. ;) Vanu are my second favorite next to NC. They sure look alot cooler than Terrans at least. Even if they are purple... :P~

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by kidriot
the vanu faction doesn't suck but the people playing as vanu sure seem to

Obviously everyone playing NC is just super skilled, right?

[aiwest420]

1)Vanu has the worst weapons (theres some good posts with hard data on the PS forums, and the dev's are looking into boosting VS weaps)
2)Vanu has the least people on EVERY server

http://www3.telus.net/westside1/PlanetSide/server_select_2003_6_11.jpg

Agathon: have you ever been in a VS outfit?
My outfit on Johari ( The Final Stand) is the #1 VS/Johari Outfit, we have 540,000 point/388 members. (1390 average)
every night, we have at LEAST 4 squads going, all attacking the same target, so please dont tell me we have "less tactics".

ggkthx

i think i made my point :)

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by Mikamas
Does anyone think Vanu Sovin. sucks??


Yes, the Barnies suck...nuff said