Jackhammer

[Navaron]

What do you guys think?

[�io]

I think (as a mostly NC player FYI) that they should nerf the range a tiny bit. Not much as to make it useless in anything but CQB but right now it's too potent even at mid range.

[Pilgrim]

Remeber back in the innocent days of yore in beta when the Chaingun owned all and it was called the jokehammer?

sigh

Just leave the jackhammer as is, and return the chaingun to the massive whore weapon it was in beta (I once used a chaingun and killed 15 people before they got me.) Then do something to jack the lasher a bit.

I have NO problem with being completely destroyed by a heavy weapon inside, at close range. Why it's a heavy weapon.

[EVILPIG]

Originally posted by �io
I think (as a mostly NC player FYI) that they should nerf the range a tiny bit. Not much as to make it useless in anything but CQB but right now it's too potent even at mid range.


ROFLMAO

More TR propaganda. BOHICA is a Terran outfit.

Here is Dio's "NC" character..

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=421623&worldId=15



Always funny to see folks come on forums and say, "I belong to such and such faction and I think you should nerf us".

[AcidCat]

I'd rather get killed by the Jackhammer twice in a row than see another goddam thread about it!

[EODTech]

No touchy my jackhammer. I dont know how many TR MAXes turned me to hambuger and I wasent crying. Suck it up, change tactics and press on.

[�io]

Originally posted by EVILPIG
ROFLMAO

More TR propaganda. BOHICA is a Terran outfit.

Here is Dio's "NC" character..

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=421623&worldId=15



Always funny to see folks come on forums and say, "I belong to such and such faction and I think you should nerf us".

Umm yeah... maybe you should wait a few months before actually thinking you know the people here, i played NC during beta a shitload and if you actually read stuff instead of assuming you would know BOHICA is an ALL empire outfit asshat.

Oh but i forgot you're BR17 so that makes you better than me. :rolleyes:

[Ghost06]

Lol, it's a Shotgun. Shotguns ARE potent at mid range, but not too potent. The trick to killing somone with a Jackhammer is being out of their line of sight. Weapons like this include the grenade arsenal, thumper, rocklet rifle, bolt driver, or any weapon capable of indirect damage. You hear a Jackhammer (or a large squad)? Take a position around a corner and start with the indirect fire. Yes, a lot of your shots will miss, but you will completely safe from major damage. Most of the Jackhammer whiners are the ones who charge, with no cover at all. Interestingly, they get owned with much more than just the Jackhammer.

[Navaron]

Originally posted by EVILPIG
ROFLMAO

More TR propaganda. BOHICA is a Terran outfit.

Here is Dio's "NC" character..

http://myplanetside.station.sony.com/character.jsp?charId=421623&worldId=15



Always funny to see folks come on forums and say, "I belong to such and such faction and I think you should nerf us".

Suuuuurvey saaaaaysss-

MORON.

[lets post pics that arent disgusting]

[Happy lil Elf]

Seen Dio three times, waved at him twice (which he didn't even respond to the bastard! ;) ) and everytime it was while waiting for a base to hack so our squads could move on and keep kicking VS ass. Oh and I play NC pretty much exclusively. I have TR and VS characters on other servers but those are basically just to see if the whiners have any reason to whine, which most of the time they don't :p

[�io]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
Seen Dio three times, waved at him twice (which he didn't even respond to the bastard! ;) ) and everytime it was while waiting for a base to hack so our squads could move on and keep kicking VS ass. Oh and I play NC pretty much exclusively. I have TR and VS characters on other servers but those are basically just to see if the whiners have any reason to whine, which most of the time they don't :p

Yeah i noticed but was busy trying to shape up the squad i was in. :p

Sorry about not saying hi. :)

[Peacemaker]

JH is fine. Nothing is wrong with it other than people cant figure out how to counter it.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

They don' t need to touch the JH if they make something that can actually match it's power somewhat, up close other than a tank.

[Dyganth]

I'd rather not have to maul a jackhammer user with a Rocklet, it just seems cheap, give me some more options!

[1024]

Originally posted by �io
Umm yeah... maybe you should wait a few months before actually thinking you know the people here, i played NC during beta a shitload and if you actually read stuff instead of assuming you would know BOHICA is an ALL empire outfit asshat.

Oh but i forgot you're BR17 so that makes you better than me. :rolleyes:

pwned.

[HawkEye]

not another jackhammer thread, theres like 5 everyday. they might nerf it with everyone complaining so much. it is an auto shotty it is supposed to kick ass, stop complaining.

[JakeLogan]

I'm not bitching that the jackhammer is to powerful I just think the chain gun should have a tightend COF and the Lasher projectile speed should be upped Oh yeah my vote is other: bring the others up to par.

[BUGGER]

Originally posted by EODTech
I dont know how many TR MAXes turned me to hambuger and I wasent crying. Thats what maxes do, duh.:rolleyes:

nerf it, or put more energizers into the chaingun (and lasher if you want....)

[BlakkyZ8]

I play all sides quite equally... well I do favor TR but this is what I have found about the HA weapons:

Jackhammer: Tri-barrelled shotgun that pwnz all CQB fights. Secondary mode trivial for skilled users, but can effectively mimic the effects of a 1 hit kill when used on agile or lower. Only real effective ways to counter are stay at least 30m away and use the cycler:p. -Or- use indirectfire with the pounder MAX, thumper, rocklet and even punisher if you have no spec. assault certs. The Jackhammer is undoubtedly the king of HA weapons.

Lasher: Good in medium ranged strafing fights and against long range crouchers/snipers (frog quote comes to mind). The weapon seems to be better than the other HA weapons against vehicles (only marginally). I once killed a brain dead Prowler driver. I litterally used 350 rounds on him as he attempted to dodge my snail orbs. He had no gunner and didn't even try to run me over. Effective ways to counter the weapon in larger fights is just single the user out. As always sniping them when they dont see you is good:rolleyes: . The lasher is generally the second best HA weapon.

Mini-Chaingun: The name suggests otherwise... but the MCG is larger than most vehicle mouted weapons. The CoF expands to rapidly for a weapon that is designed to fire in full auto for extended periods of time, at max size the CoF is as big as the 800x600 screen resolution! This doubled with weak damage on a per shot basis and RoF truly only marginally better than the Cycler make this the Worst HA weapon... at long, medium and short ranges weapon is bested by enemy faction counterparts. Effective ways to counter... well this could be a long list: Sniping, strafing, CQB, Surge and melee attacks, Stealth up behind tham and unload an AMp into the guys back, pistol snipe them, run them over with ATVs and let the n00b MCG users shhot at wall turrets. I'm sure there are hundreds of other ways but well you guys get the point.

In conclusion... Jackhammer pwnz us all. The MCG is only marginally better if not an equivalent to the Cycler and the Lasher is somewhere inbetween.

[EODTech]

Originally posted by BUGGER33
Thats what maxes do, duh.:rolleyes:

nerf it, or put more energizers into the chaingun (and lasher if you want....)

Well what do you think three 12gauge loads of buckshot is supposed to do, Tickle? ;)

[MJBuddy]

i think it's dmg over distance should be weakened, not it's COF

shoguns cant shoot far for a reason

[aiwest420]

The jackhammer is fine.

also, i noticed its mostly the TR whining about the jackhammer, and it all started when the TR max nerf's were announced a couple weeks ago.


*cough*

[JakeLogan]

So what if it did. Then both the NC and The TR had a very powerful weapon. Then we lose ours (partially) and you get to keep yours. our Heavy assault weapon sucks ass while yours owns everything indoors.

[Ghost06]

Originally posted by JakeLogan
]our heavy assualt weapon sucks ass while yours owns everything indoors.

You've stated the whole flaw in your argument. Is it good indoors? Well, then push them out doors. Thumpers and rocklets are very good at this.

[Ghost06]

I just think the TR are a bit veangeance hungry over their MAX nerfs. If the Jackhammer is nerfed, it will proove SOE listens to the masses of whiners. What does this lead to? More people realizing that in order to get what they want from SOE, they should whine. For business purposes, SOE will not nerf the Jackhammer, and if it was alreaady planned to, Sporkfire would've announced so. If the devs do nerf it, we all know what we need to do to get our way.

[kerosene31]

The jackhammer is fine the way it is.

[Revolver]

I think it's a little to powerful over ranges. It should (like the chaingun, man that thing needs some loving) suck over ranges. It's a freaking 3-barreled shotgun. It *should* do insane damage up close, but should do much less then it is now over distances. And yes, I *do* play NC...quite frequently as my sig should prove :P

[JakeLogan]

When I was talking about TR weapons that got nerfed I was talking about the MAXs. The only way the chain gun can be effective is by getting in their face and by that point you get owned by the 4 NC carrying jackhammers.