What to do - Planetside or Halo 2?

[Venoxile]

I could either spend 500$ upgrading my computer in a few months to play planet side then pay 15$ a month for like a year to play it. Or I could just buy halo 2 in 11 months from now and pay 50$ for a year.
Halo 2 would be cheaper, but would it necessarily be better? Probably. But I really don't know, the graphics engine looks much better, and they're going to have 12 vehicles, but I don't know.

[Stalefish]

But halo you don't get to meet lots of new interesting people and kill them. :)

There's the big PvP factor, even though I haven't heard much about Halo 2, you get to fight against hundreds of other real people in PS. That's something you just can't get at in Halo.

You could buy both and have twice the fun though. :D

Yay my sig works! :D :D :D

[Xtc]

Originally posted by Venoxile
I could either spend 500$ upgrading my computer in a few months to play planet side then pay 15$ a month for like a year to play it. Or I could just buy halo 2 in 11 months from now and pay 50$ for a year.
Halo 2 would be cheaper, but would it necessarily be better? Probably. But I really don't know, the graphics engine looks much better, and they're going to have 12 vehicles, but I don't know.


this is my opinion.

Halo will get boring unless you have lots of friends to play with.
single player gets fastttt boring. you'll most likely want to get xbox live. so you'll have to pay 70$+ for it. + the 15$a month for access.

now with xbox live you can play other games as well.


PS on the other hand. will last you veryyy long. even longer if you are in a good outfit. PS will have thousands to interact with

so.... i think PS is better :P not only that you can play other games on computer too :D



and if u want halo 2 fjust for the story just rent it or borrow from a friend lol

[TeamR]

Well, if your going to spend $500 just to play Ps, then I wouldnt reocmmend it. But im sure you have lots of other things you like to do on your pc, right?

So you can think of the 500 as a long term investment that will just happens to allow you to play one of the most revolutionary fps of the last decade.

So, if your not doing much with your pc, then stick with the console. If you are, get ps.

[Hatte]

Definatly go for PS, upgrading your computer will not just be for PS, but for the hundreds of other games that come out in the next few years(not that u will be playing them all). Of course, im a hardcore PC gamer, and I hate console, so you could say that I'm a little biased....

[Airlift]

I dunno. If it is really a tough call for you to choose between Halo 2 and PS, I think you should probably stick with Halo.

[Camping Carl]

You have insulted planetside, you must die. Play planetside so I can kill you.

[jamikey]

Uhhh Guy's Halo is going to support PvP On Xbox live in a BIGGGGGGGG way. Halo2 might just blow away every FPS out there. But I'm still gonna blow the 50 dollars for PS plus 15 a month in subscripstion.

[Hamma]

11months vs 3-4 months.

The fact of the matter is people need to upgrade their comps, there are people out there who think the damn things last forever. If your not willing to upgrade on a normal scale then you are not a true PC gamer :p

I for one am glad that PS isnt going to cater to people who missed the upgrade bus months ago

[Stalefish]

If you can run Unreal Tournament 2003 just fine, you can probably run Planetside, eh? :D

[Sputty]

I say rent Halo 2 and upgrade your comp for PS

[TeamR]

Originally posted by jamikey
Uhhh Guy's Halo is going to support PvP On Xbox live in a BIGGGGGGGG way. Halo2 might just blow away every FPS out there. But I'm still gonna blow the 50 dollars for PS plus 15 a month in subscripstion.

Big for consoles maybe. Another walk in the park for a PC gamer.

Look at socom, and the original halo. They were pretty revolutionary for console games. Voice chat, playable over a lan (well...xbox lan. hehe). Halo2 will probably support lots of players, and maybe keep track of player stats or something. Things PC games have been doing for years and years.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by TeamR
Big for consoles maybe. Another walk in the park for a PC gamer.

Look at socom, and the original halo. They were pretty revolutionary for console games. Voice chat, playable over a lan (well...xbox lan. hehe). Halo2 will probably support lots of players, and maybe keep track of player stats or something. Things PC games have been doing for years and years.
Exactly, if you want multiplayer gaming go for the PC

[Kaikou]

imo halo owned any other form of console game known to exist...I can probably name some games for PC that are better than halo though...

whenever you can't decide which you want, get both :D

thats what I'm gonna do anyway

[jamikey]

Sputty look at some of the screens for Halo2 , Those don't look like a "walk in the park" to me. Listen I Own Halo And I love it, And I also own a expensive PC Which I love also. But If Halo2 comes out and it's 10 times better then PS (which I don't think it will be) Then WHy not buy Halo2? Your Saying HAlo2 Is old news compared to what PC games are doing now But I say PS just might be old news once Halo2 comes out. Halo Was probably THE BEST FPS To come out on any platform last year (In my opinion.) So just see what a differnence 11 months can make and maybe well be playing Halo2 together......or maybe not

[Coliostro]

Halo is by far and without a doubt the best console game of any type i've ever played. I can't speak for anyone else but i absolutely loved it. The only other thing that came close was GTA3.

[TeamR]

Originally posted by jamikey
Your Saying HAlo2 Is old news compared to what PC games are doing now But I say PS just might be old news once Halo2 comes out.

Hmm...

Unless halo2 is going massivly multiplayer, I doubt it. Halo was a great game, but it was nothing new. What was so revolutionary about it? Nothing.

Two races battling it out? Not new. In fact, most pc games with that type of storyline would at least let you play as the other race.

Vehicles? Been done in quite a few games.

16 players over a lan? I'm not even going to touch that

So, all in all, what new features or ideas did halo bring to the genre or gaming on a whole? Nothing.

Dont take this offensively though. Halo was a great game that will go down in console history. The point im trying to get through to you is that Halo2 will obviously be a good game, but it wont bring about any big changes the way games like Doom did, or Quake did, or Halflife did, or Planetside will...

The cold fact is that real revolutions in games, or any comparable technology takes place on the computer. Not the console.

[Camping Carl]

Halo 2 would be cheaper, but would it necessarily be better? Probably.

And I still say venoxile must die.

[Sputty]

IS Halo 2 a MMOFPS? If it is I stand corrected but since there's a one player story mode I don't think it is. And unless you haven't seen any online PC game, most FPSes are "old news" and very few are revolutionary and PS is. I assume online play will have the standard DM and capture the fdlg and maybe some new stuff but just because it looks good doesn't mean it's a great, new game. I think that Halo 2 will be a good game, probably one of the best in the year but it will be still the same basic FPS game we've played before.

[Camping Carl]

IS Halo 2 a MMOFPS?

No, and for asking you shall share venoxile's fate.

[�io]

Never played Halo but it looks damn cool.

That said though PS > Halo2, 3 and 4! :)

[Sputty]

I never said Halo 2 was beter than PS, maybe I should've been more specific but I was saying that PS is far better than Halo 2 and Halo 2 is still the basic FPS we've all played but it just looks better than others. Also, I wasn't actually asking but I was comparing it to to PS and it isn't an MMOFPS so I was saying that it wasn't anything new really and I think you should try to read it and understand the fact I answered it myself.

[Flashingfish]

I hated Halo. Flame me all you want, but I really didn't enjoy it.

It was just a little... slow. And the weapons didn't feel good, too focused on energy and not enough lead! And the monsters were just boring.

Granted the graphics were good, but you need good gameplay to make a good game, and frankly I don't think Halo had any of this.

:love:

[Sputty]

I think any console FPS is flawed by the conrtols no matter what. I played Halo a little and it was annoying to control, although I thought it handled the gameplay well. I thought that it was basically standard FPS fare and had nothing really new except for a few vehicles which I didn't really like any of them.

[Navaron]

Well first off, it sounds like we have a lot of people who bash halo or PS because they are uber loyal to thier respective gaming platform.

Halo was great. No bugs, no weird patches, nothing. It was meant to be a single player experience, and they added local multiplayer to help ship units. I think you would be hard pressed to find any game on any system or pc that was as immersive and well designed as halo (or that had such a great co-op mode).

I like my pc and xbox, and they are both great. Halo 2 will have online multiplayer support, but no, it's not MMO, which is fine because it won't have that bucket of worms to go with it. People play consoles online for ease of play. People play PC online because of the community and they don't mind some of the hiccups along the way.

A PC can be uprgaded almost weekly, which is great if you have the time and money. A console sticks around for about 4 years with no upgrades and you only pay a one time hardware fee. It's just a tradeoff.

Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too.

[SVoyager]

well here i rented a xbox to try halo and well, i wasnt very impressed.

The graphics were good alright but i found the gameplay not the best, i found it to be very repetitive. If i started at the second or third level, it would have been the same thing as _most_ of the other levels. Granted there was a good story behind but besides that i didnt liked it much. At one point i found the game darn annoying at a level. if you played the game, im talking about the level where you have to get some item to start halo, and to go there you have to go tru about 4 floors of the same darn thing over and over again. After 3 strait hours of doing the same thing, well i got tired a bit :) and at that point i realised that it is often that case on other levels, repetitive killing with a lot of respawning.

But dont get me wrong, im not a console basher and i do not devote my life at bashing halo either, but well, i heard all the hype about it and i wasnt impressed at all unfortunatly. So that got me for the halo series so to me im not even looking at halo2, i think ps will rock any other game out there without a single exception. Since i heard about it, suddenly evrything else sucks :P. j/k

IMHO i dont think any console games will beat any mmog's out there on pc, not _for a while_ that is. With xbox live things might change yep but still have ways to go. So i look forward to good games on consoles but i still think the pc is the best.

.02$

[TeamR]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron

Halo was great. No bugs, no weird patches, nothing. It was meant to be a single player experience, and they added local multiplayer to help ship units. I think you would be hard pressed to find any game on any system or pc that was as immersive and well designed as halo (or that had such a great co-op mode).



Just a correction.
Halo would have definitly benifited from a patch or two. There were lotsd of glitches in Halo, proof can be found at gamefaqs. Check the secrets guide, and look for the listing of glitches. Also, in multiplayer the weapons were horribly unbalanced. The machine gun was nearly worthless, and any decent player with a pistol could kill you in 1 or 2 shots. That should show you just hwo much time I spent with that game :P


A PC can be uprgaded almost weekly, which is great if you have the time and money. A console sticks around for about 4 years with no upgrades and you only pay a one time hardware fee. It's just a tradeoff.
Who says you can't have your cake and eat it too.

This is the real reason I replied to this thread again. I really hate when people say things like "you got to upgrade your pc every few months - a year, and a console sticks around for a few years". Only the most hardcore are going to go out and upgrade every few months, like the most hardcore console gamer will go out and buy all 3 consoles. Where PC upgrades for a year (An upgrade per year is pretty rare though) will cost around 500, buying all three consoles + memory cards and other essentials will be roughly the same, if not more. And those who dont upgrate bi yearly, or dont buy all three consoles, are obviously limited in their gaming selections, but have a good selection of games anyway. Hell! I didnt stop using my Pentium 200mhz untill this year, and at lan parties it is still broken out if we have an extra guy that needs a machine to play CS (or any hl mod), or starcraft, or JKII, or lots of other games that are still popular today. So put all that shit to rest.

Done.

[Airlift]

Seriously... If it is a choice and you're having a hard to deciding between spending $50 or spending hundreds, spend the $50. Worst case scenario is that you regret it and then proceed to spend the hundreds on top of it. Best case scenario, you escape torturous addiction to a persistent state first person shooter for only half a bill.

I just spent $700 for upgrade, but I get a lot more use out of my PC than just gaming, and I had a lot of parts to replace. It was a two-year old upgrade, aside from the video card, which I generally upgrade between cpu/mobo. The great thing is that I expect to go 3 years on this upgrade.

[Stalefish]

Originally posted by Airlift
The great thing is that I expect to go 3 years on this upgrade.

Won't ever happen. :p

[TeamR]

Originally posted by Stalefish
Won't ever happen. :p

read my post.

edited...

[Hamma]

:ugh:

/me slaps TeamR

[TeamR]

ak!

Look what ive turned into...

:evil:

[Zatrais]

HALO 2 will be great for those days the servers will down and for patchdays =D

[Flashingfish]

stfu TeamR.

(don't worry, he gets it)

[TeamR]

Originally posted by Flashingfish
stfu TeamR.

(don't worry, he gets it)

*weep*cry*

why does everyone hate me...
:tear:





:p

[Coliostro]

I didn't think this wasn't going to be a hot debate. Can't we all just get along? Halo rules, PS rules...nuff said

[Camping Carl]

True, except it should be Halo rules, PS rules more.

[Zumthor]

I must say that the co-op mode in halo really is great. YOu get to go through all thoes boards, but with a friend at your side, so that when you are low on health, they can pistol whip you in the head so that you respawn with full health. I just got an xbox for christmas and have been playing halo co-op with my little brother. We usually fight with eachother alot, but killing hordes of aliens has broght us together. :)

[Zumthor]

How good are the planetside graphics gonna be compared to halo 2. I have seen the screenshots and all, they are much better then tribes 2, but i dont know if they are as good as halo1.

[Jinxmasta]

Originally posted by Hamma
11months vs 3-4 months.
Uhh I still play the first Halo after 13 months and it still kicks ass so I guess Halo 2 should outlast PS :p

[TeamR]

what?did nobody read my posts? I already owned this thread. let it die

[Navaron]

Originally posted by TeamR



This is the real reason I replied to this thread again. I really hate when people say things like "you got to upgrade your pc every few months - a year, and a console sticks around for a few years". Only the most hardcore are going to go out and upgrade every few months, like the most hardcore console gamer will go out and buy all 3 consoles. .............. . So put all that shit to rest.

Done. [/B]

Whoa there. Back up a little. No one said "you got to upgrade your pc every few months - a year, and a console sticks around for a few years". I pointed out that you *can*, and if you *keep* reading "It's just a tradeoff". Your pc can look better every week. A console stays the same, look at the ps2, it's graphics are really dated and it still sells for 200 bucks.

"So put all that shit to rest" - You've got a couple issues to work through I think. But if you put it to rest then who am *I* to bring up my opinion on a forum. So sorry. /Bows and begins to chant - *We're not worthy, we're not worthy.........*

[TeamR]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Whoa there. Back up a little. No one said "you got to upgrade your pc every few months - a year, and a console sticks around for a few years". I pointed out that you *can*, and if you *keep* reading "It's just a tradeoff". Your pc can look better every week. A console stays the same, look at the ps2, it's graphics are really dated and it still sells for 200 bucks.



just as long as you dont get too carried away, because you dont know me, and I joke around alot :p

But anyhow

My point was that there is no tradeoff. My point was that buying a pc and not upgrading it is the same as only buying (for example) a ps2 and keeping it for 4-5 years (though, the majority of consoles in the last decade were more along the lines of 1-2 years). Im promoting equality!

Cant we all just get along? ;)

[Sputty]

You can either upgrade every 3 months or a year or ugrade some to really good hardware that will be good for 2 years and then vbe decent for the third

[Navaron]

Can't you see it man, there is a trade off mannnnn (we need a hippie smilie), buy once never upgrade if you don't have cash, or buy once and upgrade every so often. This is how it works if you want to play the newest games.

[�io]

Navaron here is your hippie smiley. (well maybe 40% hippie 60% pimp :lol: )

http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif

:)

[Navaron]

PIMPTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[�io]

BAHAHAHAHA!!

:lol:

Nice word.

[Coliostro]

Hey, what's all this talk about upgrading all the time. Sure, it would be nice if everyone could afford to..but on the other hand it isn't really necessary. In April I'll have had my computer for 4 years and games just came out this month that i can't play for the first time. It's lasted me quite a while but I'm finally putting ole bessie out to pasture in honor of the new year.

The moral of the story is...you don't have to upgrade unless you want to. Your graphics may suffer for it, or the speed of gameplay..but these are life choices :rock:

[Hamma]

The point is, U cant complain if your trying to run PS on a PIII 800MHz PC

;)

[Coliostro]

Mine's only a 533..Decent video card though. Best I could get for the puny computer i had. I'll have my new one before PS comes out. :clap: :dance: :clap:

[jamikey]

well then by everyone saying that halo2 is going to be old news, then planetside is already a failure? its doing nothing different at all except putting more pees on the server and not stopping the game.. whats the great big deal, everyone in here says that halo2 will do nothin, new, heheheheh planetside is going to be the same ol thing but on a little bit biggier scale, and probably lagged to death anyways. once planetside took out the rpg elements they lost there innovative ness and just became the next big FPS when they should have been the most revoulutionary game in the 2003 and beyond.sorry for replying so late but ive been on vacation.

[Sputty]

Cry havox and let loose the dogs of..errm...flames... :flamemad:
Firstly, did you join PSU's forum just to say that in a random thread? Secondly PS is a MMOFPS totally designed for team play with different squads and outfits. It also has a large amount of vehciles and more will be coming I'm sure later. It also has objectives in territory. Halo 2 will be the same DMing or Team DM in multiplayer that we've all come to know. SOE has had experience in MMOGs for eyars. There won't be any server lag at all most likely. Comp lag will be the person's own fault and it ahs settings that can be changed.

[Airlift]

They were 100% right to remove the rpg elements. One man's innovation is another man's jumbled mess that only detracts from the real fun of the game, which is to experience massive first person combat in a persistent setting.

[Guardian AngeL]

i would choose both:D i make $180 a day

[Sputty]

I don't ahve an Xbox and a few games are on it htat I want but I don't like sports games and Splinter Cell is going to GC and PS2. The other two games I'd like to play are Steel Battalion and Halo 2 but I don't feel that I have enough reason to get a new console. I'd rather spend my money on Computer hardware.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

In defense of the Xbox there are alot of great games coming out this year. First is the obvious Halo 2 which should just decimate everything like Halo did. There is also Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon Orta, which comes out in like 5 days, Soul Calibur 2, Fable, Tao Feng, Deus Ex II, SWG and Sudeki, fantasy rpg/action type game.

If you don't know about these games they're worth a look so just search for them on the net. :D

[Sputty]

SWG is for PS2 also. Panzer Dragoon Orta looks like a really good game but I still don't feel the need to get one. Although I hvaen't used my PS2 in awhile and rarely for any new games at all. I ahve a GC and that has a sure great game. Zelda. Can't compare a game like that to any FPS though so it's useless to mention it, but I did anyway.

[FraBaktos]

Well, I have a few things to say. Halo I didn't like. I'm not being biased in any way, I play all consoles, and all types of PC games. The fact that it had the slightest bit of auto aim pissed me off. It basically removed all skill from the game. It turned into who ever shot first and had the slightest bit of accuracy wins. Also, if you had any idea what Halo was GOING to be like, you wouldn't like Halo that much. It was going to have area specific vehicle damage, playable covenant race, drivable dropship, water vehicles, and cool weapons like flamethrowers and harpoon guns. To me it was a big dissapointment. It didn't have enough weapons, and nothing really new was added. People liked it because it was finished, it didn't have any problems, and it had good graphics. But that doesn't make a game for me. I would MUCH rather play Perfect dark 64 or halflife, they require more skill. Halo 2 could be good, but it's prolly just gonna be another game with good graphics and not really good gameplay, and will be over rated (it also seems like they are rushing it a lot).

As for PS, it looks like it will be amazing. why? Because it will actually require strategy and skill to succeed and that is what makes or breaks a game IMO. With a combination of really fun looking ground and air vehicles (THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DESTROYED) a lot of weapons (much more than halo) and tons of people, it will just be amazing. There are different classes, all sorts of equiment and lots of stuff to try, so it won't become boring for a long time. I think it would be most fun to defend against an attack of more than 20 people, like in the traditional FPS.


:D

[BLuE_ZeRO]

PS is almost a completely different game than Halo. They're both futuristic FPS's and that's about what they have in common. PS is a massive scale game that needs alot more weapons to cater to the amount of people playing it than a game like Halo where it's just you vs a race of people. The weapons in that game were very effective so you didn't need tons of them. As for the gameplay it was very well done so I'm not sure why you'd even bitch about that. Slightest bit of auto aim? please it wasn't that noticeable you still had to be aiming at the target to hit him except with the needler gun I think...

Halo wouldn't have been as popular as it was/is if it was an average game. People are still buying the game. That's why they can still charge $50 for it in stores. Halo 2 will also have xbox live support which will give the game more options as far as multiplayer. There are going to be many new weapons added to the game from what the reviews I've read have said. Not to mention that they upped the graphics in Halo 2 and the new graphics will put games for PS2 and GC to shame.

[Navaron]

WHat is this - week of the living thread? Die old threads DIE! :domotwak:

[Sputty]

:rofl:

[FraBaktos]

Games like Resident evil (gc) and metroid prime (gc)have some of the best graphics I've seen, and I've seen the new screens for Halo2. Doesn't look that good. And it will prolly lag with enough people (ever played unreal championship?) But graphics don't really matter to me. I just thought halo's gameplay was boring.

[Sputty]

In all fairnes Resident Evil is pre-rendered. But Metroid:Prime is a great game! Does Unreal: Championship lag alot then?

[FraBaktos]

with 4 player split screen it chops like a bitch

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Are you talking about offline 4 player split?

[Sputty]

OH, yeah. Myultiplayer conbsole shooters with their split screens are really hard to play. I'm blind though

[Kyonye]

I constantly play halo with my friends and when halo 2 comes out, i'll do the same thing. i have nevered played halo on single player and dont intend to for halo 2.

i'm going to get PS because i'm a freak about PvP games online. you will always have competition better then you and so you always have something to work for.

[Moloch]

BIGGEST INNOVATION OF PS:
I don't know if anyone said this already, but I don't think anyone did. The biggest innovation is TEAMWORK. This is one of 2 games where you NEED a group to actually perform decently. The other is Natural Selection for HL. As for Halo, I liked it, and It had the best controls for a console game I've ever seen, at least for mevement and aiming, and it was really fun. However, I wish they hadn't cut so much out, and I plan to play Halo 2 at my friends houses. Any money I have goes to upgrades and PS.

[jamikey]

team based, vehicles, All been done before, all planetside is just a bigger version no innovation accept bigger and presistant thats all. you know it I know it, its the very same things as evry other fps except bigger and funner. so its old news. my point exactly. thing you i own you all.

[Moloch]

What game have you played, where if you weren't with a team, you were owned eventually, no matter how good you were? I haven't played any, except maybe infantry on Sony Station, but that was not FPS. Besides, even if it is not innovative, it is nearly infinitely upgradeable.
btw, I think you were joking.

[Guardian AngeL]

Originally posted by Moloch
What game have you played, where if you weren't with a team, you were owned eventually, no matter how good you were? I haven't played any, except maybe infantry on Sony Station, but that was not FPS. Besides, even if it is not innovative, it is nearly infinitely upgradeable.
btw, I think you were joking. in SoF2 i can camp in one spot with a shotgun and get 10 kills before they even hurt me