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Buck
2002-12-28, 09:28 AM
I just saw a post saying PS was to ship in Dec. 2003... very far. Ive also heard March too. Big Difference. Anyone have any thoughts?

Sputty
2002-12-28, 09:46 AM
Planetside's official FAQ says Q1 of 2003. So that will probably be around march. Whgere did you hear that it was coming outn in dec. 2003?

Stalefish
2002-12-28, 11:43 AM
You've gotta know it's going to take longer than March just to do a beta test, unless they end up like Anarchy Online and release it too early, in which case if they do that I'd kill them....all.

MMO release dates are much altered by their respective betas and rarely ever hit gold unless the dev team decides there's been enough internet beta testing. Neocron was in beta for at least a year.

Hamma
2002-12-28, 12:24 PM
MMOFPS beta testing != MMORPG Testing

They are two different animals.

What I heard when I visited SOE was March or so, they were pretty confident.. As for DEC 2003, where the heck did u read that? :eek:

Buck
2002-12-28, 01:02 PM
http://www.gamespy.com/games/release/#P

I got it off gamespy... Im not ashamed of that.

�io
2002-12-28, 01:15 PM
:lol::rofl::lol: @ gamespy

No way will it be Dec 2k3. As our great Hamma stated this is NOT a MMORPG, it's an FPS, a lot less stuff to manage. And the game is already done the only thing left is debugging(hence beta) i really doubt they will spend a whole year debugging. I think a March release is pretty realistic, maybe April.

Stalefish
2002-12-28, 01:22 PM
Alrighty, but if they release it in March and it ends up being too early do I get to kill you too Dio? :)

March-April does sound realistic for an FPS, but things could go wrong. Neocron was "done" when they started testing too. :p

With all of those preview reviews though, it seems like Planetside is much more done than not done, so I think it'll be ok. ;)

�io
2002-12-28, 01:57 PM
Well i dunno about Neocron but from what Hamma saw in the press beta and the internal going on now it seems pretty much well done and with exclusive starting soon it should mean a "bug-free" (a game is never bug-free :p) copy of PS "soon" so maybe it will take longer than March or April but NO way will it be Dec 2k3. If PS comes out in Dec2k3 then sure you can kill me. :)

Detritus
2002-12-28, 01:59 PM
Planetside is released in April 2003
I have e-mailed Sony and they rang me back and told e this date...;)

Validuz
2002-12-28, 02:00 PM
They better not fucking release it until it's TOTALLY finished. I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out.

Note to (future) Beta testers:
Don't suck at beta testing this time...

Coliostro
2002-12-28, 03:18 PM
Hehe, i'd never heard of Neocron until a day or two ago. Almost bought it.

Hamma
2002-12-28, 03:51 PM
I'm not sure what the folks at gamespy are smoking, or what company paid them off this time. But DEC is definatly false.. theres no way it will go that long :lol:

Gamespy is the worst gaming site/organisation <b><u>ever</u></b>

Saint
2002-12-28, 05:39 PM
What ever happened to summer 2002, hehe I saw a site that hadn't been updated in a long time advertising a preorder for July 17th 2002, I don't have the site, but I thought it was kinda odd.

:nazi:

Saint
2002-12-28, 05:42 PM
Bah I am having trouble opening this packet of DayQuil.... Being sick sucks!!!

:tear:

�io
2002-12-28, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Validuz
They better not fucking release it until it's TOTALLY finished. I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out.

Note to (future) Beta testers:
Don't suck at beta testing this time...

:rolleyes:

Ok how about we make a new forum rule Hamma, no talk about Tribes and no bitching about something unless you did it or made one yourself. :)

Validuz
2002-12-28, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Dio
:rolleyes:

Ok how about we make a new forum rule Hamma, no talk about Tribes and no bitching about something unless you did it or made one yourself. :)

I was referring to Sierra rushing it out and it not being completed. Dont make me own you Dio ;)

Navaron
2002-12-28, 07:32 PM
"Ok how about we make a new forum rule Hamma, no talk about Tribes and no bitching about something unless you did it or made one yourself."

I second this motion.....

�io
2002-12-28, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by Validuz
I was referring to Sierra rushing it out and it not being completed.

I'm just curious Validuz but when was the last time you made a 3D PC game for thousands of people?

Didn't think so. :)

I'm not saying T2 didn't launch with a lot of problems, i'm saying unless you work for a dev company then you can't really complain about it. No offense to you it's just that (after the numerous patches you had to download) T2 was one of the best games ever made and i get tired of the PS people bitching about it.

In the words of one of the greatest guys ever (becuz he is making PS)
Originally posted by SmokeJumper
You make T3 and show me what I did wrong, okay? :p

Navaron
2002-12-28, 07:49 PM
*o snap*

TG_Dead__Eye
2002-12-28, 08:07 PM
Just thought I would add this little piece of info, first off I have no clue where gamespy is getting there intel, but I have 2 copies of PlanetSide reserved. Sony has already put out a release date to Game Stop so people can reserve there copy/copies of the game right now. Game Stop has been told the release date has been set for 3/5/2003. Of course this is subject to change if they have any unfinished beta testing to be done, but untill they have changed it this is the official release date.
Be Safe and Have Fun

Navaron
2002-12-28, 08:16 PM
For some reason they always seem to bump theirs up. I don't want to burst you bubble (I really really hope you're right), but they were like 6 weeks early with BF1942. Here's hoping though...

Validuz
2002-12-28, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Dio
I'm just curious Validuz but when was the last time you made a 3D PC game for thousands of people?

Didn't think so. :)

I'm not saying T2 didn't launch with a lot of problems, i'm saying unless you work for a dev company then you can't really complain about it. No offense to you it's just that (after the numerous patches you had to download) T2 was one of the best games ever made and i get tired of the PS people bitching about it.

In the words of one of the greatest guys ever (becuz he is making PS)
:p

Alright...
1.) T3 already has the green light.

2.) Dont put words in my mouth, I NEVER said T2 sucked in any way, but it was CLEARLY not finished when it was released. You have a nice double-standard there; "I'm not saying T2 didn't launch with a lot of problems"..."I'm just curious Validuz but when was the last time you made a 3D PC game for thousands of people?" That same question you asked me, you can ask yourself. Little do you know that I used to play Q3 like a religion until I started playing Tribes. The game is by far the best game out. I was simply stating that it was released to early because of Sierra.

3.) What games have you created?

4.) Why in the flying fuck are you protecting Sierra? The company that FINALLY released the so-called "final patch" a year and a half after the game was released.


Besides the fact that you flatout said that your bugged about people bitching about Tribes problems (which youve vaguely admitted there are), is the one reason you said anything to me.

Hamma
2002-12-28, 09:31 PM
/mode #ps-universe +bbb Sierra T2 T3

Navaron
2002-12-28, 09:31 PM
(*o snizap*)

Sandtaco
2002-12-28, 09:32 PM
ehhh.... *cough*yoursigisn'tworking*cough*

Validuz
2002-12-28, 09:33 PM
Anyways, I doubt that SOE will push for the release of Planetside as long as they've been working on this, and then spit out a game that's half done like Sierra did.

Sounds like everything is going great from what Ive been hearing, and I was very pleased to hear that they will have 99% of the bugs out even before it gets to the beta testers.

I'd seriously just HATE to see another game get ruined by bugs, like T2 was. In all seriousness, there would be at least triple the people playing T2 still if it didnt have all these problems from the beginning. Im really looking foward to this game and I can just hope that beta testers do their job, instead of having the attitude of "wow, i get to play this game before anyone else".

Peace,
Valid

Validuz
2002-12-28, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Sandtaco
ehhh.... *cough*yoursigisn'tworking*cough*

Ive been meaning to get around to that. heh, ty ;p

Navaron
2002-12-28, 09:38 PM
We should start a whole little section on the main page of the forum, where people can go and rant about how horrid t2 was or how great it was. I don't give a rat's ass. These are PS forums, it's a new, different game. Let it go.

Sputty
2002-12-28, 09:42 PM
Nearly every game has a patch the first or second to figure out some bugs..heh..no game is ever truly finished when it's on the PC

�io
2002-12-28, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by Validuz
2.) Dont put words in my mouth, I NEVER said T2 sucked in any way, but it was CLEARLY not finished when it was released. You have a nice double-standard there; "I'm not saying T2 didn't launch with a lot of problems"..."I'm just curious Validuz but when was the last time you made a 3D PC game for thousands of people?" That same question you asked me, you can ask yourself. Little do you know that I used to play Q3 like a religion until I started playing Tribes. The game is by far the best game out. I was simply stating that it was released to early because of Sierra.

Originally posted by Validuz
I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out.

Unless i'm reading it wrong you said T2 was a nightmare when it was released. This to me = you complaining about T2 which is what this whole thing is about. And as i said in the part you conviently didn't put

i'm saying unless you work for a dev company then you can't really complain about it.

Originally posted by Validuz

3.) What games have you created?


I'm not complaining about Tribes either am i.
Originally posted by Validuz

4.) Why in the flying fuck are you protecting Sierra? The company that FINALLY released the so-called "final patch" a year and a half after the game was released.

It has nothing to do with defending Sierra but defending Tribes. I'm tired of people saying it sucked or in your case sucked early on.

Originally posted by Validuz
Besides the fact that you flatout said that your bugged about people bitching about Tribes problems (which youve vaguely admitted there are), is the one reason you said anything to me.

Umm didn't get all of that but i never bitched about T2. I said it has problems at launch but i never said it sucked or called it a nightmare.


Anyway back to the regulary scheduled topic. (i hope)

Navaron
2002-12-28, 09:48 PM
yeah right....

Stalefish
2002-12-28, 09:56 PM
I figure Verant did a pretty good job with taking alot of the bugs out of Everquest when it came out. I didn't play it much in the beginning though, so maybe I never got to see. I do have pretty good faith in them though, just because of the things you guys have been saying about the previews the people have played. Even if they give it a few more months, I can wait that long and it'll be that much better (sorry, I kinna forgot what I was trying to say in the middle of the post, but I know I wanted to say something along those lines).

And Dio, about your post way back there, I'd never kill you. :D

�io
2002-12-28, 09:56 PM
Awww shucks!

Right back at you Stalefish!

:love:

:p

Navaron
2002-12-28, 09:58 PM
Don't let your guard down Dio, I would.;)

�io
2002-12-28, 10:03 PM
:lol:


...


http://www.emo.spacespider.net/grr02.gif

...


:lol:

Stalefish
2002-12-28, 10:11 PM
The classic and yet still very usable "never do anything that navaron would do" technique. :)

Navaron
2002-12-28, 10:13 PM
What? Where'd that come from....You been taking to Mistled?

Navaron
2002-12-28, 10:14 PM
"The classic and yet still very usable "never do anything that navaron would do" technique" I just noticed something, I have been crying the virtues of the NC for a long while, and I'm going with them....so you better not cause that's what I'm doing.... jk welcome aboard little lady.

Coliostro
2002-12-28, 10:26 PM
I never played Tribes 1 or 2 and really couldn't care less if it's a great game or if it's the worst game ever. I wish people would stop talking about it (I think someone else already said that part, i'm just reiterating)

Stalefish
2002-12-28, 10:33 PM
I guess joining NC is the only and I repeat ONLY thing people can do that you do. :D

Hamma
2002-12-28, 11:39 PM
People are still bitching about T2 and will bitch about it until T3 comes out.

Then they will find out T3 isnt T1 and begin to flame T3. Its a continuing cycle in the Tribes community and one of the reasons I stopped playing :p

Camping Carl
2002-12-28, 11:41 PM
Never played much of tribes myself, to many snipers. That's the way of the world, no sequel can ever live up to the original.

�io
2002-12-28, 11:52 PM
So you're saying Doom3 will suck more than Doom ? Or Hitman2 isn't as good as Hitman. What about GTA?

;)

Camping Carl
2002-12-28, 11:56 PM
No, I'm saying someone will always complain that the "original was better".

�io
2002-12-28, 11:57 PM
True dat.

Coliostro
2002-12-29, 01:47 AM
GTA may be the exception to that rule..Oh, and Empire Strikes Back was better than A New Hope. And so you see, Simon and Simon were not brothers in real life, but only on Television. :huh:

�io
2002-12-29, 02:30 AM
There's more than just GTA, Hitman2 is better i have no doubt. Same for most FPS and RTS. And well a whole bunch. :)

Validuz
2002-12-29, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Dio
Unless i'm reading it wrong you said T2 was a nightmare when it was released. This to me = you complaining about T2 which is what this whole thing is about. And as i said in the part you conviently didn't put

I'm not complaining about Tribes either am i.

It has nothing to do with defending Sierra but defending Tribes. I'm tired of people saying it sucked or in your case sucked early on.

Umm didn't get all of that but i never bitched about T2. I said it has problems at launch but i never said it sucked or called it a nightmare.



:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Who the fuck said ANYTHING about Tribes sucking??? I'll tell you... NO ONE. I CLEARLY FING stated that I hope SOE doesnt rush PS out like Sierra did to T2.

So take you "Im better than you because Im trying to make you look like a whiner" attitude and place it where the sun doesn't shine.

***edited for viewers***

the_badness
2002-12-29, 09:30 AM
i knew he couldn't let him have the last word. :D

the_badness
2002-12-29, 09:31 AM
hello btw, i'm new here :D

Stalefish
2002-12-29, 11:42 AM
You did call it a nightmare, meaning you thought it was horrible when it first came out. You should reword your posts if you're going to take everything you say back. I believe you when you say you don't think tribes 2 sucks, but watch how you word it in the future.

Coliostro
2002-12-29, 12:21 PM
:stupid:


Learn how to word your statements properly and no one will ever mistake their meaning.

Next week in English 101 I'll take everyone through the magical world of where to put their commas and why they aren't always necessary. :zzz:

CDaws
2002-12-29, 02:22 PM
From what I've read the March 5th seems pretty sound for the release date although I have seen on other sites and game magazines that mid March like the 15th but, we will find out when it gets here.

Sandtaco
2002-12-29, 02:44 PM
It'll probly be late March, 5th and 15th are too early.

Validuz
2002-12-29, 03:00 PM
"They better not fucking release it until it's TOTALLY finished. I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out. " - Validuz

Learn to read the sentence BEFORE the 2nd second (the LAST sentence) in that paragraph. I know you failed English class and/or had to try really hard to get through it, but normally ONE paragraph stays on the SAME subject. That subject was about SOE releasing PS early like Sierra did with T2, and T2 was FULL of bugs and major problems. That's where the "nightmare" part comes in.

Hamma
2002-12-29, 03:02 PM
:huh:

Sandtaco
2002-12-29, 03:03 PM
Nightmare implies that you mean it's crap... We're not saying that you think it's crap. It was just implied :o

Navaron
2002-12-29, 04:26 PM
OK kiddies, lets put the flame away. Listen, it is an easy mistake to see "it was a nightmare" as "that game was horrible." I can see now that you didn't mean the game sucked, rather that it went through a bad spot. Use those little emoticons or something, people don't know what tone you're using so misinterpretation is common in forums.

Stalefish
2002-12-29, 04:30 PM
You mean like:

:( = Happy
:) = Sad

kinna thing? :D

CDaws
2002-12-29, 06:09 PM
:lol: Stalefish or would it be :tear:

�io
2002-12-29, 06:47 PM
Glad to see your a mature adult Validuz...oh wait...

Anyway i was going to respond but about 10 people already said that you implied it wasn't good so i'll just keep walking. :)

Sputty
2002-12-29, 07:43 PM
I hope it's after March 24th. I was planning on upgrading my com[puter then. It's my birthday and I get money. Heh, I think I need more RAM for it to run on my system. Only 256. I'll be upgrading the barebone.

Validuz
2002-12-29, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Dio
Glad to see your a mature adult Validuz...oh wait...

Anyway i was going to respond but about 10 people already said that you implied it wasn't good so i'll just keep walking. :)

If 10 people read it and thought that, then 10 people are wrong and don't understand how to read a paragraph. If ANY of the "10 people" read the first sentence instead of ignoring it, then there wouldn't have been a problem.

I guess there's always going to be "rambo's" such as yourself that just enjoys causing problems, purely out of ignorance.

Btw, Im dont with this conversation with you. If you and the other "10 people" can't figure out that the two sentences we're linked to the same subject, then that's your problem.

Valid

Navaron
2002-12-29, 08:59 PM
Youre a little off base, Dio is a cool, level headed guy. I don't want to start anything, but you're a little hostile here. Dio got a little off base, but you are the one coming off as hostile - I understood what you were saying, but *not* the first time I read it. It was a mistake on everyone's part, shake hands and let it go. (Or I'm gonna make you kiss and make it better)

Nav

�io
2002-12-29, 09:19 PM
Thank Navaron. :)

I agree there's no point in continuing this pointless debate, Validuz you win, me and the rest who somehow mistook "I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out" as you saying T2 wasn't good when it came out are sorry for our sub-par intelligence, we bow down to you oh great and mighty one.

Navaron
2002-12-29, 09:23 PM
You sure know how to make peace dio, ass (ha).

�io
2002-12-29, 09:26 PM
Thanks, i always try to make everybody feel special. :D

Coliostro
2002-12-29, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Validuz
They better not fucking release it until it's TOTALLY finished. I don't want another nightmare of a game like T2 was when it came out.

Note to (future) Beta testers:
Don't suck at beta testing this time...


I had to go back and look at it. Just to make sure i wasn't wrong. Nope, wasn't wrong. It didn't just say it sucked. He said it was a nightmare and not totally finished.

/em looks around for a dead horse to beat.

Navaron
2002-12-29, 10:36 PM
Ignore him - ^ - he's just trying to start it up again. There was no point to that thread. Join the debate team if you want to argue.