The Terran Empire has been Nerfed right out of the game

[hiphop4321]

:mad:

[BigFreak]

? :/ No, just our heavy assault weapon's shat, and we have crap empire specific vehicles, we're still playable...just :p

[hiphop4321]

na man we suck now, i have been on 3-4 different conts today with a lot of troops and got swept off them all, our weapons suck so much ass

[BigFreak]

You can't argue with a cycler or a striker, they're decent weapons tbh

[hiphop4321]

i don't think the cycler does enough damge even with armor piercing bullets, striker is alright though, but damn chain gun sucks

[BigFreak]

Yea, AP rounds are almost pointless, cept if you don't have AV and DO have heavy assault, the minigun makes quite a nice antivehicular weapon, but generally speaking it's like a large clipped AMP.

[Arakiel]

Striker owns.
Cycler owns.
Repeater owns.
Pounder/DC MAX still own.

BUT HEY, VS HAVE THE LANCER#!@ OH AND THE THRESHER ONLY LOSES 1/4 OF ITS FROM AUTODRIVE NOW, EAT THAT TERRANS!#$

[BigFreak]

Heh, to be fair you have the magrider, and an Anti Vehicular/Anti Personnel sniper rifle. The magrider doesn't even need 2 people in it to screw over a base, hell you don't even need to use the gun, with it's dimensions being clearly buggered up, you can be a good distance away and still manage to run people over. And your maxs can jump. Ours can change their turning distance from 360 degrees to...well I dunno, a lot less, it's pretty pointless really

[ZionsFire]

U TR still kick ASS:nod:

[Solnoir]

If TR is nerfed out of the game, you should all go help VS, especially on Emerald. Twice yesterday they were down to one base left. Apparently they were all ready nerfed out of the game a long time ago.

[Ceiba]

I can't help but laugh when I see a Terran complaining that they don't kickass anymore. Especially when we've been getting pushed out of every base we fight them in tonight.

[Peacemaker]

God everyone complaines about the TR being NERFED, Nothing was nerfed, just adjusted. Everyone says ooooOOOOOOoooooH JH is too overpowered. The fact is u guys cant drop that JH user in 3 seconds so he acctualy gets to you. And you aparently dont know how to use the prowler. I played this game for 1 hour as a prowler driver, my gunner was ok. But using appropriate MBT tactics we were able to own everything that got in our way, we also had a Marauder with engys in it as backup.

Nother major factor is that all of the really good players who were on TR b/c they had overpowered weapons (which they did according to the TR players themselfs) switched to the NC b/c cries are going out to "NERF" them. Thus a large population diffrence and "stacked teams". Best solution would be to up the punishments and rewards based on empire populations. An overpopulated empire looses 2% exp for everything. This does not directly affect the ability for a force to do combat. If you wereto take 10% health and 20% armor from said overpopulated empire then the result would be equal forces.

[Airlift]

Despite being fairly drunk last night, I didn't feel nerfed out of the game.

[Doppler]

So lemme get this straight, you get it adjusted so you actualy have to play, and you've been nerfed outa the game? *blink* Goddamn, i hope my enemies are always this uncreative. I hope for the rest of my life if i nulify my enemies gun he wont ever think to attack me with his knife or his fist.

[Drunken Chicken]

If it happens to you = Nerf.
If it happens to somebody else = Adjustment.

If the devs take any empire specific weapon and reduce it's effectiveness, that empire will scream "Nerf!" while the other to call it a balancing, adjustment or tweak.

Of course, if you read the official boards, you can understand why EQ got rid of theirs. Two hours after the patch, people where complaining about how overpowered/still underpowered the Pulsar was.

[Spider]

Vanu so got owned yesterday on emerald... but we came back in strenght after 7 hours of intense battle hehe

1 base :ugh:

[Cyber]

Originally posted by Peacemaker
I played this game for 1 hour as a prowler driver, my gunner was ok. But using appropriate MBT tactics we were able to own everything that got in our way, we also had a Marauder with engys in it as backup.

Ahh, you had a Marauder with you. Also known as the real TR Main battle tank. ;)

As someone who drove the Prowler throughout beta with a good crew and now only drives the Maruader I've gotten more successful tank kills in it, had less trouble getting killed by AV weapons and overall have been more successful driving our heavy assault buggy. The weapons on it are better and easier to aim.

[BiocYte]

Originally posted by Cyber
Ahh, you had a Marauder with you. Also known as the real TR Main battle tank. ;)

As someone who drove the Prowler throughout beta with a good crew and now only drives the Maruader I've gotten more successful tank kills in it, had less trouble getting killed by AV weapons and overall have been more successful driving our heavy assault buggy. The weapons on it are better and easier to aim.

I agree the Marauder is def a kick ass vehicle. With the right driver you are extremely lethal.

About the TR being nerfed out of the game I would have to disagree. The MCG up close is lethal, and if ur not good at it, then just loot a JH. Just about EVERY NC has one. I like to carry a MCG in every loadout, I mix it with the Thumper, Cycler and Shotgun.

The Max cycler is total shite now tho.

[Led]

Originally posted by hiphop4321
i don't think the cycler does enough damge even with armor piercing bullets

You were using the wrong fricking ammo!#%

Use regular on infantry, AP on maxes!

HARRRRRRR!#%

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Solnoir
If TR is nerfed out of the game, you should all go help VS, especially on Emerald. Twice yesterday they were down to one base left. Apparently they were all ready nerfed out of the game a long time ago.

The other day the Terrans on Emerald were reduced to three bases. On Emerald, the VS are in general doing better than the Terrans. Our Zerg is, unfortunately, generally incompetent.

[Seer]

The Striker is a great av weapon. The cycler is a great medium assault weapon. The chaingun is the worst HA weapon, but it still chews through people under the right circumstances and I see no shortage of people using it. The repeater is one of the best pistols in the game. Their AV max is still a force to be reckoned with, and I see no shortage of them. Their AI max is the best defensive tool in the game, bar none. Their aa max does its job. The prowler could be improved, while the marauder is the best heavy buggy.

All it all, the Terrans are a fine empire. Saying they've been 'nerfed out of the game' is breathless hyperbole, especially if you have nothing to back it up with.

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by Seer
The Striker is a great av weapon. The cycler is a great medium assault weapon. The chaingun is the worst HA weapon, but it still chews through people under the right circumstances and I see no shortage of people using it. The repeater is one of the best pistols in the game. Their AV max is still a force to be reckoned with, and I see no shortage of them. Their AI max is the best defensive tool in the game, bar none. Their aa max does its job. The prowler could be improved, while the marauder is the best heavy buggy.

All it all, the Terrans are a fine empire. Saying they've been 'nerfed out of the game' is breathless hyperbole, especially if you have nothing to back it up with. Amen to that. If a slight nerf to your MAXs, "Nerfs you right out of the game" If what you said is true, that means that your entire attacking force must have been based on MAXs (By the by, the TR MAXs are still the best MAXs in the game, just not by much). Honestly, I don't see how you can say that TR has been nerfed out of the game.

[Pilgrim]

What's pissing me off is that I've played NC on emerald sense BETA... and got back on as NC on emerald on release day.

Now I'm to the point of thinking, get rid of the freaking jackhammer... remove it from the game! Jus to get all the stupid x-TR players to go back to being TR. I'm so sick of thousands of incompetent NC players. I like many others felt the TR MAXs were a bit too good at everything, but I wish to god they had Never nerfed 'em... I liked playing against other forces that outnumbered, and outgunned.

My only hope is that all the poser jag-off wannabes will go to VS now and leave us loyal NC alone!

As for the TR being gone... NAH, I've gotten into several good fights recently with the TR... they still fight good when they actaully show up to fight. The thing is you now rarely see anyone below BR 14.

And the prowler does suck... return its ROF to what it was in BETA... then it had a chance!

[Stimulate]

Its not that we've been nerfed out of the game.. its that most of our peple have left for NC.

[MilitantB0B]

Not on Konried, NC still has the least amount of people last time I checked (Just last night). Thats why I love konried. ;)

[SumYungGui]

hold on, hold on. lemme get this straight. you say since you were 'nerfed' by having your ANTI-VEHICLE MAX take an extra two or three bullets out of his inventory in about half a second of fire time to kill infantry, and your anti-infantry MAX's blast radius (which NO OTHER EMPIRE gets on their AI MAX!) took an ever so slight nerf to make the damage actually tone down according to distance from the center of the blast rather than being 100% damage across each and every single infantry he manages to cram in his blast radius, you're now nerfed out of the game?

good god, this man needs an injection of Vanu play-time, STAT!

[Malodorous]

Nerfed out of the game? I really have no idea what this guy was thinking when he made this post, but he needs to put down the bong, and step away from the computer.

Yes...with the exception of the Marauder, all of the Terran-specific vehicles suck. Bad. There is no question we got hosed there. And no, the Maxes are not running rampant like they did in the beta....but come on....it used to be ridiculous...you could hop in a DC Max and own everything that came at ya.

Frankly, I think for the most part, the game is levelling out nicely. The MCG is still underpowered I think, though not by much. And yes, I agree with the majority of other non-NC players, the Jackhammer is obnoxiously overpowered and deserves an immediate nerf.

That having been said, I don't think we are in any way nerfed out of the game. It gets terribly old, going to do battle with 65 guys weilding Jackhammers in a base...but eventually SOE will recognize the inequity of that weapon and nerf it a bit. Until then, I just keep one or two in my locker for just such ocassions.

[OneManArmy]

well since everyone decided to make the long post I'll keep it short.


you sir, are a dum dum.

[Seer]

Yes...with the exception of the Marauder, all of the Terran-specific vehicles suck. Bad. There is no question we got hosed there.

I hate to nitpick, mal, but there are only two empire specific vehicles. You're treating it like there is an entire set of underpowered vehicles, when really it is just the tank.

[Hamma]

Yea, just the prowlers sucks.. its supposed to be the most heavily armored vehicle in the game.. but it isnt.

The PROWLER is the largest main battle tank. Having the most armor for a tank and a 360-degree capable turret with dual 100mm heavy cannons, the Prowler is certainly able to devastate many targets in short order. The secondary gunner is able to control a dual rotary chaingun, which is a small turret atop the primary turret. Naturally the sheer size, weight and firepower of this tank makes it slower than any of the main battle tanks
lies.

[aiwest420]

1) a small max nerf doesnt "nerf them right out of the game"
1a) stfu newb
2)all tanks have the same amount of armor...

[Sleepwalker]

I play TR on Konried. That's the only server, last time i checked, that had fewer TR than any other race. I use agile armor, and a cycler. And god strike me dead if me and my squads didn't kick a good deal of ass. ALL the TR maxes are still good, because that's one of the Republic's strengths. i've used the marauder, but not the prowler. the marauder kicks LOTS of ass, and the only real weakness the TR has is their chaingun. but that's fair, isn't it? each team should be good at some things and bad at other things.

I agree with Hunter-R, it IS more fun when the enemy outnumbers you. that means more exp for kills, and more exp for every base capture. IF you have enough skill to go against the crowd.

let the TR have their still-powerful MAXes, their pretty damn good med assault, and their crappy chaingun.
let the NC have their mediocre MAXes, their powerful med assault, and their amazing shotgun
let the VS have their...

...their...
...well, maybe the pulsar's not so bad anymore...
...and they can jump, and stuff.

Stop complaining, you Terrans. If everyone was satisfied with the Republic, there WOULD be no splinter groups and rebels!!!
-I have one character.
-He's a Terran.
-I do NOT feel sorry for myself.
:trrocks:

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Hamma
Yea, just the prowlers sucks.. its supposed to be the most heavily armored vehicle in the game.. but it isnt.

He's right. All the tanks have the same amount of armor. The Powler is the worst tank in the game. It's not terrible or anything, but the MagRider and Vanguard are both a step above. I think the worst part about it is that its main gun is intentionally weaker due to the fact that it is capable of carrying a third gunner for the 100mm's.

[Incompetent]

The Terrans are doing so bad, at least on emerald, because about 75% of the people who play there are to stupid to tie their own shoes, they don't understand even the most obvious things. They can't even grasp that standing in a small, confined area downrange of a high damage area of effect friendly weapon is stupid, and that they should defend the ground outside of the room.

Not to mention the fact that at any given time that 75% of our population is sitting on their ass in a completely secure facility waiting for the XP, while being to stupid to understand that they won't get anymore then they have already earned because our enemies are to busy capping three or four other bases around them and don't give a shit if they lose that one. I swear that there are maybe 200-300 people who hold the entire republic together on that server.

[Diviant]

I think you guys are just too used to using overpowered weapons as opposed to skill.

[Smaug]

First off I would like to say that... the DC max clearly says AV. That means it is supposed to kill vehicles, not people...... I have a way to get all the x-trs to go back to the republicness too. Make the MCG have a cof equal 2/3 its current size. Then bring down the JH's rate of fire a little. Keep the damage the same, common people NC is supposed to be the BIG HITTING empre, 2 hit kills and stuff, and TR are supposed to be the high rof empire so that should work. I enjoy being the underdog though because nobody can attribute my l33t(hehe yeah right) kills to uber weapons. I am currently a sniper though so I have no problem switching empire, becuase everyone has BD and every empire can be good with it. The only reason I am staying NC on emerald is because I have a BR14 and BR13 and I like my outfit alot. So all you frag-hungry x-trs go somewhere else I wanna be the underdog again. If you devs have to completely remove the JH go right ahead I only use gauss and sweeper anyways, 4 cert points is such a waste for any weapon. Also plan B would be to make the lasher bullets 10x faster, then the VS can have some overpowered fun, I wouldn't mind I'd just be hiding on a mountain sniping them when they are looking in backpacks for JHs.

[AcidCat]

I wish this kind of pointless thread could be limited to the official forums. What is the point of this crap? If you don't like Terrans join another Empire.

[aiwest420]

Originally posted by AcidCat
I wish this kind of pointless thread could be limited to the official forums. What is the point of this crap? If you don't like Terrans join another Empire.
thats what i was thinking..

[MilitantB0B]

I honestly wish they would change the Lasher to a NC RPG (Just change the graphics, keep every other aspect about ti the same) and give the VS their shiny new energy jackhammer. That would kill 2 birds with one stone. The VS would quit whining about their nerfedness and all of us NC can be rid of the ignorant x-TR masses. I wouldn't complain, I rather like the Lasher. :D

[ZionsFire]

yes lowering the JH ROF is something we can all live with:nod:

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by Arakiel
Striker owns.
Cycler owns.
Repeater owns.
Pounder/DC MAX still own.

BUT HEY, VS HAVE THE LANCER#!@ OH AND THE THRESHER ONLY LOSES 1/4 OF ITS FROM AUTODRIVE NOW, EAT THAT TERRANS!#$

I nominate this for quote of the year.

[BUGGER]

Originally posted by aiwest420
1a) stfu newb wait, u callin hamma a newb, or the other guy 1? If hamma, i think you should hide. :nod:

I rather like the Lasher. Gimme your jackhammers and i'll give ya 2 lashers. :nod:


I say TR is ok, Vanu is ok, but nc with ts jackhammer, jsut alittle nerfing or slower repeat rate and it be fine. I mean switch to the 2nd dot and you could wipe out 6 peeps in 2 clicks (and dont say it fits nc because they suposto have strong weapons, cause its shooting out 3 rounds).


:nod:

[Smaug]

It fucking cracks me up when I see noob terrans and vanu using alt-fire mode on the jackhammer constantly. You dont use alt-fire at even medium range! It is so unaccurate at the 2nd shot not to mention the 1st that the last 2 have about a 10-20% chance of hitting at medium range. The only times I *ever* used alt-fire on my jackhammer were in tight tower battles and still only if the tower was really crowded. To say that you can automatically kill 6 people with 2 shots its just dumb. Honestly I'm asking, have you ever used the JH? If you're lucky you can kill one person with the alt-fire. And even that has to be point blank. JH isnt one hit kill! 6 shots doesnt equal 6 kills. Sorry bout that bugger I just got really mad... I'm not a JH psycho defender though. I really believe it needs to be adjusted, have its normal rate of fire reduced.

[Primal]

6 peeps in 2 clicks

You, sir, are an idiot.

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by LNS0388
I nominate this for quote of the year.

Even though I forgot the word "health" in there and didn't care enough to edit it back in?

[aiwest420]

Originally posted by BUGGER33
wait, u callin hamma a newb, or the other guy 1? If hamma, i think you should hide. :nod:

:nod:

lol, no.

i was referrin to the guy who started the thread.

notice he hasnt posted a reply to it yet? ;o