Inc jackhammer nerf from the looks of it...

[Zatrais]

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/002705.html

pretty much a guarantee for a "change" of it imo...

Enjoy it while you can NC hehe

[Happy lil Elf]

More like a "Enough with the new threads on a topic that you've already beat into the ground already. Find something else to whine about" thread imo ;)

Wheres that OFN smilie when you need it?

[ajohn505]

typical TR hysteria.

They're looking at the data, which is what spork always said, and in your giddiness, you automatically think its getting nerfed. Just because all the TR kiddies on the official boards started saying "yeaY!! NURF@!!" doesn't mean its being nerfed... just look at Spork's responses.

IMO, whatever they do to the jackhammer, it will always be slightly better than the sweeper (which is how it is now) and better than the other HAs in close combat. The devs will not break from their design just so a TR zergling is able to run into the muzzle of a JH without fear.

NC people, rejoice... your jackhammers will always be the best close-quarters weapon.

[Airlift]

I called Vegas, they laid out 2 to 1 odds that the next topic of whine will be....

The Lancer

[Plato]

What are the odds for the Striker and Magmower?

[Airlift]

The Striker is at 4 to 1 and the Lagrider is around 10 to 1.

[BUGGER]

The lancer is slow, slower than the jackhammer, which it shouldn't be. I dodge lancers all the time, but then not many vanu use em (atleast the groups i'v seen).




Plus the jackhammer aint really close-range weapon, not the way I've been killed with it.

[BlakkyZ8]

All I want is a decrease in effectiveness past 15-20m. I mean the MCG is less effective than the JH at range.:ugh:

[Jarlo]

Bugger33 wrote..
The lancer is slow, slower than the jackhammer, which it shouldn't be. I dodge lancers all the time, but then not many vanu use em (atleast the groups i'v seen).


I assume you mean the LASHER. The lasher is the hvy assault weapon for the vanu that fires large slow moving balls of energy. The LANCER is the AV weapon that fires a very fast bolt of energy.

[Zatrais]

Oh please...

Whenever a SOE employee says the issue is under investigation you bet a nerf is comming...

TR hysteria, more like a kneejerk reaction from a NC player to keep the jackhammer as it is heh.

But hell, i don't really care what they do, just brouht the post and the wording up for a post to discuss it and to me, it strongly implies that something is going to be done about it.

[MJBuddy]

its not like it was when TR were winning by basically max rushing all the bases, NC DONT always win, and when we do its because we had an organized strike that day (on emerald, at least)

hell, if they plan to nerf NC, Vanu will be overpowered, so this is a bad idea taking away our indoor battle ability

however, lower the distance the JH can go and it will be fine, i dont think it should be usable outside, its just not meant to be

[Doppler]

Originally posted by Zatrais
Oh please...

Whenever a SOE employee says the issue is under investigation you bet a nerf is comming...

TR hysteria, more like a kneejerk reaction from a NC player to keep the jackhammer as it is heh.

But hell, i don't really care what they do, just brouht the post and the wording up for a post to discuss it and to me, it strongly implies that something is going to be done about it.

Dear god! What are you four? Did you een read the post you cited? Obviously not, why must you take it out of context in yet another attempt to turn this into a shithole the likes of the OF.

Now i know what your saying, "Oh he's just another NC trying to save his jackhammer" Buddy boy i use common pool weaponry exclusively have since beta.

Oh and as to your assertion that you dont care what happens the tone of your post suggestions your practicly salivating and hiring strippers to celebrate the nerf. I'm so sick of this tit for tat shit.

[Trencher]

I'd rather just see them beef up the MCG and maybe the Lasher (dunno if it needs it, I've never used it...) to make them more comparable. If they keep nerfing everything we'll all be fighting with nothing but knives in a year.

[Phorcy]

I really dont see a issue with this weapon.

IMHO - It is best used at close range and thats it. If you allow your enemy into a certain distance where a shotgun is effective its your own fault, not the one caring the weapon.

v/r

[Bottleneck]

After thinking about it quite a bit (im at work and of course have nothing better to do) Id really rather they actually made the TR and vanu weapons more useful then nerf the jackhammer. Its fooked up that my chaingun has to be at damn near point blank range to kill someone but a jackhammer can gank me the other side of the road in a base. If they just increased the fire rate on lasher and accuracy on chaingun I think these rants would stop.

[Zatrais]

Did you read my post doppler?

I've never argued for a nerf of it, i posted a link to an official statement made by the community manager. I noted the wording he used.... "we're looking at the issue"

That to me is a pretty strong indication that the devs have some changes planned for the jackhammer and it won't be more power by my reconing.

Don't derail the thread and keep it about the POST not the jackhammer.

As for whose dragging psu down, whose using chareter attacks here?

[Plato]

"BUGGER" D'oh - I hope you like fruit

[MJBuddy]

i hope they just lower its range a bit, not the power. if u run into a NC base head on u deserve to die quickly

[Hellsfire123]

I still have yet to find any problems with any of the weapons. The MCG in beta was to far out there, but right now i think everything is fairly well balanced. I still dont see anything wrong with the jackhammer. Its a shotgun, shotguns hurt up close, thats the entire point of the shotgun. Thats why if i carry the assualt rifle, my secondary is either the sweeper or the lasher, for CQB.

This game is slowly turning into counter-strike. Whats the first thing someone says when they get killed in CS? OMG HES HACKING ITS UNFAIR! For ps, its just gonna be OMG OVERPOWERED WEAPON! NURF!. Christ people.

[ajohn505]

Originally posted by MJBuddy
i hope they just lower its range a bit, not the power. if u run into a NC base head on u deserve to die quickly

Exactly. Compared to other factions, the jackhammer will always rule at close range. To change this will be to change the whole philosophy of the factions.

I suppose the gun on the vanguard is too big now too?

[Madcow]

Originally posted by ajohn505
Exactly. Compared to other factions, the jackhammer will always rule at close range. To change this will be to change the whole philosophy of the factions.

I suppose the gun on the vanguard is too big now too?

Good lord, the gun also owns at medium range. It's fine if it owns in CQB, if that's what it's designed for (and it makes sense it would be) then why wouldn't it? Jackhammer users should be forced to use another weapon outside or to have to surge into the faces of enemies for it to be effective, but that's not the case. The Jackhammer still owns at 30+ meters, and that's the problem. It's CoF is pretty well non-existent and it's excellent in medium warfare. That's just silly.

[JLeeAZN]

Weapons shouldn't be nerfed... the jackhammer shouldn't be nerfed, the only reason why NC pwns us all day long is because they have organized attacks on our home continents, and while the NC is walking around in Ishundar... our entire empire is trying to take.... AMERISH?!?! Who cares about that crap place when Ceryshen is locked by NC(last night) or Ishundar is locked by NC(2 night ago), or Forseral is getting invaded by Vanu(3 nights ago)... the TR don't have any planned attacks, we just run out there and shoot people, I try to get organized attacks ready... but no one listens, they /ignore me... haha.. The NC is organized on Emerald, its not the jackhammer....Watch a movie by Malvision.

www.malvision.com

Then go to the movies and download the Xen of Onslaught one.. it really cool and the outfit is so oranganized...

[FliggenMan]

god damn dude all it needs is a range nerf thats all, stop whinin

[Yogi]

"The JH isn't over powered, we're just more organized than you"

That one always gets me going.

When's the next stand up show?

[MJBuddy]

buddy, TR are incredibly unorganized. Hell, when NC said vanu were unorganized, they said it was just unfair..no vanu have organized and are a pain to kill everywhere

TR has no organzation on emerald and they admit it freely...go read Hammas post in the Emerald server specific

whereas on emerald, NC and VS are doing planned attack raids on conts, TR doesnt

[Zentenk VA]

We just had a huge organized attack on forseral on Konried (hour ago) and we have it locked, have most of Ceryshen and Vanu took Ishundar. IF you nerf the jackhammer it will keep poundin away at your chest, at least by me... I used it before it got its COF narrowed so its range was more than pointblank.. and i still whooped MAX and infantry ass! I kill people w/ jackhammer from pretty far away but sometimes i have to reload. There is somethin fishy about the lagrider though... I don't know what it is... i guess there is just a lot of them and it always seems like im shooting the one.

[Sandman]

I think if they changed it to be closer to a real shotgun where you have to reload after every shot would be a good enough nerf for me :D but then again i doubt that would ever happen

:ncsucks:

[Arakiel]

I'm VS and I hope they nerf the magrider's ability to run stuff over while simultaneously boosting the effectiveness of the rail cannon, partially just because I'm sick and tired of getting run over by friendly mags. I guarantee you that most VS are killed more often by friendly tanks than enemy tanks.

If you boost the rail cannon's damage or make it a bit more accurate while lowering the bumpercar effect, you essentially make it so that in order for mags to be effective, they'll require a gunner. Keep the effectiveness of the overall platform in-line, but require another person there and make it behave like an actual tank.

[Sandman]

I like the magriders just as they are

[SmilingBandit]

Boost the magrider's accuracy? It's already the easiest tank to gun in.

Put crosshairs on target, pull trigger, do not let go.

Compare that to the prowler or vanguard: See target, guess target's range and speed, guess appropriate loft for round to hit target, correct fire, fire, correct fire, ....

[PR24]

Originally posted by MJBuddy
its not like it was when TR were winning by basically max rushing all the bases, NC DONT always win,

Since the TR nurf the NC have one every single day.

Just pointing out the facts, even though I could care less I enjoy owning with my outfit :)

[Sandman]

as long as you have is the only point right???

[rafein]

probably will nerf the gun a somewhat. Probably make it do less damage, like 42 damage instead of the current 48 at point blank range. That way, all the TR and Vanu will be happy NC got nerfed.