Mosquito vs. Sunderer

[Cyskoraeban]

I tried piloting the galaxy, but that thing is too damn huge, lol... So I forgot that cert and went to the Mosquito, cause its fast as all hell :rock:

Anyway, I'm thinking of losing that cert and going with a sunderer... what do you guys think?

Any reason I shouldn't?

[MilitantB0B]

I f you like going fast. don't get a sunderer. If you are looking for a transport, and you like going fast, pick up a deliverer.

[Cease]

I personally prefer the Sunderer over the Deliverer. For two reasons:

1>I like the cannons of the Sund more than the MG of the Deliverer.

2>The Deliverer can't transport MAX units while the Sunderer can.

[Deadlock]

at times i think the sunderers more effective than a tank when u got both guns going... not more powerful mind u but more effective

[Pilgrim]

I love the skeater!!!!

That being said, the sunderer are pretty good, but have 2 main problems:

1) too many stupid people get in the guns and spam nades all over the place!
2) when you have a competent gun crew, it's easy to get under the guns and blow the crap out of a slow moving sunderer! I've beat one one on one with an enforcer, not to mention I've blown the crap outa tons of them from a vanguard.

The deliverer on another hand is fast enough to get away from tanks, good enough weapons to stop aircraft, and strong enough to blow up magriders (watched 2 fully gunned delliverers destroy 3 magriders yesterday, made me want to cry for joy!)

So if you're dealing with smaller squads go deliverer, let the MAXXES run...

[Bottleneck]

Hehe sunderer is fun, and as for fighting skeeters, just take av, skeeter shows up and keeps out of the fire arc of your guns? stop, pop out, SAY HELLO TO MAH LIL FRIEND!

[Airlift]

If the skeet has a competent pilot and you exit your vehicle for the AV kill, you will be raped 95.7% of the time

[Nitsch]

I prefer sunderer over galaxy because driving a sunderer keeps downtime lower. It seems to take forever and a day for people get aboard galaxies, because you usually have to land it in a weird place away from the base.

Or if you land it in the base, you get bored people who start shooting it, driving over it, idots trying to spin it, random numbsculls jumping in and shooting your guns, forcing you to keep it squad locked... Also when you fly a galaxy someone invarably wants to put their wraith in there... even though they don't know how to get it aboard... sometimes galaxies are just idot magnets.

While in a sunderer people don't usually screw around..they just jump in... if someone is on the other side of the base.. you can drive and pick them up. Because of the lattice now, you don't usually have to travel huge distances to the next base, suiting the sunderer very well (you can also blow stuff up on the way over too).

Also, you can get a sunderer at any tech plant linked base so you really don't give a damn if it gets blown up or stolen. While galaxy drivers usually like to stick close to their galaxy because they don't want to have to trek to a dropship center to get a new one.

[Cyskoraeban]

Then it looks like I'll be driving a new Sunderer today when I get home from work :D

Question: How fast could 1 sunderer turret take out an AMS? what about 2?

[Nitsch]

Sunderers make AMS drivers cry, especally if the ams is stationary. AMS's can be a pain in the butt to kill if the sunderer has to chase him...

Those two 75mm guns tear through armored targets. They shoot fast and you can reload while firing. About the only thing that can take out an AMS faster than a sunderer is a heavy tank, and they won't take it out that much faster.

[BUGGER]

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
If you are looking for a transport, and you like going fast, pick up a deliverer. Thats my alternative, well maybe not right now, but when i eran another cert or2, i will switch from my reaver to a deliverer from time to time as i always do. But something i learned while in a convoy with a few sunderers, its not much faster than the big black truck. Really the deliv goes as fast as the sun, so not much difference besides if u get ambushed at a bridge (or theres a shitload of mines), u could just drive your deliv right off the edge into the water and get away, unlike the sunderer where you gota call out a guy with a few jamers. But the main reason why I like the deliverer better cause its a funner convoy vehicle, i mean u could have 2 delivers fully gunned which brings u to 6 guys, then have 2 lightnings and probly 2 bikes or 1 buggy (doesn't matter whic 1, but skygaurd would be most affective if a reaver or skeeter comes along). But i have no problem with the sunderer, I mean its one sexay bus, but when u drive under the underpasses inside a base, u tend to skinn the cieling.....


But the sun is kool as i said, u should see me drive that coner with a shitload of debry right on the corner too, oh yea, i should be a bus driver wen i grow up!:rolleyes: :D

[Nitsch]

I love to mine bridges... my favorite thing to do. I laugh my butt off when i blow up deliverers. I always think, "Why in the hell didn't they take the water?...isn't that why they picked the deliverer?"

It woudn't be as strange, if it didn't happen often. All i gota say to those deliverer drivers... THANK YOU!

Especially when you have a full crew.

[BUGGER]

if we always go in water at cyssor, u could call us an old geezer.

[Protst Patrotsm]

Grab the skeet, suns are very cool and all, but skeets are just crazy good. most pilots fly way high and get blown up. I always fly NOE, and any missle locks are quickly lost through hills or trees, not to mention you can almost hover directly over an nme vehicle, so it won't be able to touch you

[Streamline]

Go with the Sunderer and create a new character for piloting. Skeeter is more useful soloing and the Sunderer is more useful if you gotta move an entire squad around really fast and you got MAXs to support. So it really depends on your roll.

[Doppler]

If my chars name wernt gal gimp and i didnt have all his certs planned out i'd have the sunderer. Perosonally i'm constantly pissed off at there being no one other then me with a transport cert, or if there is they've alll got gal. The ability to get a sunderer almost anywhere to squickly move a whole squad including max's to engage the enemy cant be beaten, also skeeter is very convenient for setting up a difrent char with.

[Jarlo]

I like sunderer, it is a true challenge to drive and the twin cannons are formidable. It also has a TON of armor, more than the tanks I think (haven't tested it though).

My only tip with it is to stay on roads when possible. It is very easy to flip or get stuck with the big bus and its acceleration is terrible.

[Nitsch]

Oh... and it's much easier to run over badguys in a sunderer than a mosquito or galaxy!

[Protst Patrotsm]

Creating new chars is kinda pointless in this game. If you want to do something else, just cash in some certs or get summor BR. If they don't raise the highest BR and CR lvls, then if you got max i could see doing it.

P.S.- Any of you people flipping suns just suck at piloting. those things are impossible to flip, i've driven mine off cliffs and down mountain slopes all the time, never flipped once.

[Happy lil Elf]

If the skeet has a competent pilot and you exit your vehicle for the AV kill, you will be raped 95.7% of the time

Not if it's a pair of sparrow MAXs and a couple of Phoenix users getting out out of the sunderer. It is fun to watch the mosquito just start to pull away as 15 or so missiles turn it into scrap metal though :)

And someone please explain to the Mosquito pilots that they aren't gonna kill a tank. All you're gonna do is annoy it to he point of telling his gunner to chain gun you outta the sky :p

[Protst Patrotsm]

I kill tanks all the time with my skeet. The key word is competent. a good skeet pilot will hover overtop of the gunners, so they can't shoot it. and if a few people do get out, the skeet can drop to one side and kill the driver/gunner before the other guy runs around the tank. if too many people come out, just smash the afterburners and no missle can hit ya. it's simple. they need driver's school for all the vehicles... maybe some outfits can start actually training their members, i know i will

[aiwest420]

P.S.- Any of you people flipping suns just suck at piloting. those things are impossible to flip, i've driven mine off cliffs and down mountain slopes all the time, never flipped once.
same here, in fact i've never flipped in any vehicle.

just make sure you dont get the damn thing stuck in a hole ;o

[BUGGER]

heh, easyer said then done....:o