Selling Accounts?

[NarutoZX]

I was wondering if selling accounts is allowed? I know that SOE already condemns it and polices ebay, but I constantly see accounts on ebay still selling on ebay. Granted they are pretty much crap accounts with a BR7 or so on it and only selling for 5 bucks, but why should a good account not be allowed to sell on there and even the crappiest of all accounts still "somehow" get by unnoticed?

There are multiple other sites set up specifically for selling EQ accounts and items, and none of the other large MMORPG's seem to police ebay.

Getting rid of a BR20 CR3, BR14, BR13 account shouldn't be any different than selling a BR5 account as long as all software is removed from the previous owners system.

[diluted]

makes me think.. you know in the EULA it says you're only borrowing an account from SOE and its not really yours.

THATS SO LAME.

who is the one paying 13 a month?! anyway.. im sure it could be done though hard.

[Caspertoo]

This no selling accounts is purely a financial matter for them. A person that buys a BR19 account will play maybe what? A month or two and become bored?

A newbie will play 4 or 5 months before becomming either bored or whatever.

If they thought there was a profit in selling accounts, for themselves of course, not you, then they'd be all over it.

Also doesn't matter that they are policing ebay. Ebay doesn't see anything wrong with it and will continue to allow it. My advice is don't show any pictures on ebay that has your account name, and specify that the user must contact you personally for account details other than BR and certs.

If SOE turns out to be a bidder than contacts you, and then shuts your account down, then they have fraudulently bid on ebay which is illegal.

But of course in my opinion this is no different from the music industry trying to sue individuals who pirate music.

[NarutoZX]

I don't see how a person staying a month or two would hurt them any more than people who buy the game, hate it and then get stuck with a game that they spent 50 bucks on. The only thing that does is make the person angry at SoE and not want to participate in any more of their stupid rules.

On the other hand, selling the account to another person that gets to start already a good portion into the game with a signifigant advantage over other people can't be bad to them. If they do stay for those one, two, or even three months upwards it only nets them money from someone who potentially might skip over this game not wanting to start at the basic crap level everyone else starts at.

Ebay actually already removed my auction from their listings on grounds that Sony had contacted them on copyright infringement. Ebay said that if I relisted the item my ebay account could be banned. Wondering how I was infringing on copyright laws I've of course written to the address ebay provided and, of course, have yet to hear back from SOE.

The thing that makes me the most annoyed is that I have seen several accounts go by and sell and there are still some posted currently that have been up for almost 5 days that never got removed.

Anyways, if anyone knows someone looking for an "advanced" account, they can PM me and we can talk.

[rafein]

since Planetside is more of a skill based, game, i don;t think many people would be interested in buying accounts.

An account of BR20, CR5 will not make you able to kill a BR2 guy if the BR2 knows what he is doing.

All you are buying is certs you woulda have gained in a few weeks of playing anyway.

[Onizuka]

this one is selling right now on emerald, and nc. lets see, who could i be...... i dont know but it shouldnt be hard to figure out. hes br20 and cr 5. so i wont be a space-raper:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3536916389&category=27234

[Hamma]

They can terminate the account at any time.

ie, if they catch you selling it say bye bye

[NarutoZX]

There is actually no way they can "catch" you selling it unless in fact they are the buyer in which case you would already have their money anyways. Anyone who actually says their account name or station log in before the transaction has gone through is kinda stupid and probably deserves to lose their account.

Like I said, people have been selling their accounts quietly on ebay along with used PS software and even have it right in the descriptions and they don't seem to make a big deal about it. However, if you put that you are selling your account with it in the title, they get offended and threaten to have ebay block your account for copyright infringement.

Anyways, my offer of a nice account still stands for any PM's.

[Hertston]

I agree with those above.. why would anybody actually want to buy an account ?

Sure, it's nice accumulating BR and CR, and gaining more certs, but you gain levels pretty quickly anyway. You don't gain any huge advantages from rank.. I suppose some might want to jump quickly to CR4 or CR5 but "command" in PS has no real clout. On Werner (VS) there's only one I pay any attention to..the others are pretty useless.

I can only assume that's why accounts are being sold with the game - the purchaser is sharing the common mistake that just because PS has a subscription payable, it's an RPG.

[Happy lil Elf]

Quite frankly they don't need to catch you to cancel your account. They can cancel your account at any time because it's not your account and you agree to that everytime you start the program ;)

[hulkhogan]

sell it on www.playerauctions.com (http://www.playerauctions.com) they wont remove it

[Hamma]

http://www.playerauctions.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1057785331

700$?

Peeople are sick.

[Revolver]

Originally from the signature of Hamma
[url]http://staff.planetside-universe.com/hamma/sigs/hamma.php ROFL strygun

In case you missed it, Strygun wrote "Strygun was here" in red over hammas sig lol

[NarutoZX]

I was thinking about listing it on that site, but it doesn't really have a great selection for people looking for much else besides everquest.

I was browsing over ebay today and I noticed that there are about 200 SWG auctions happening for creds and accounts already. Since both PS and SWG is owned by SoE, why is only one being actively disturbed?

[Vowels]

One of the reasons why I like this game as much as I do is precisely because the only thing your "level" gives you is more options to choose from. This isn't EQ or DAoC, and anyone can take anyone out if you go about it the right way. If you can't, then you either didn't plan or didn't practice enough, since ANYONE can use ANY weapons in the game from Day 1.

I'll bet the ones buying the Planetside accounts have quite a few bridge and swampland titles of ownership, too.

[shinken]

probably wouldnt be able to sell it even if you could get away w/ it

[NarutoZX]

Actually, I know many people prefer to be able to actually jump right into the game at maximum potentional and play it for what this game really is - a FPS - without any EQ xp treadmills to gain cert points.

PS and xp should not go together. It makes people not work as a team, it makes people not want to go on ANT runs and help everyone else sitting in the base collecting SOI battle xp, etc. By the time you are BR18, and are trying to get those last two cert points to get combat engie or advanced hacking or a vehicle that you need, you get .25 of a bar of xp per 5k base hack. Sitting around for 40 5k base hacks or possible a few less if you get alot of kills for BR18->19 and then 50 or so to get from 19->20 is even less fun.

I simply don't have the time to play this game anymore so I figure that people who enjoy playing a FPS without having to sqish EQ into the side of it would enjoy my account more than starting at the beginning of an annoying treadmill.

[instant]

PS Is a level threadmill, thats why I figured that after my 7 days of free trial i'll be bored with the game and ready to play something else :-)

(I Did play in beta, and PS has not become any more interesting with lower XP and flying targets (those bombers))

This game has a lot of potential - lost.

[PR24]

Originally posted by rafein
since Planetside is more of a skill based, game, i don;t think many people would be interested in buying accounts.

An account of BR20, CR5 will not make you able to kill a BR2 guy if the BR2 knows what he is doing.

All you are buying is certs you woulda have gained in a few weeks of playing anyway.

But most people HATE leveling. Yet this is a FPS so it's fun but adding the leveling part is a down side for me.

There are advantages to selling/buying accounts.
1. Person changes servers and does not feel like leveling another character.

2. Person purely hates leveling

3. Person does not have time to level a character and wishes he/she could just play w/o having to level.

SOE just has a stick up their ass because the customer is making the money not them (SOE).

[instant]

Originally posted by PR24
But most people HATE leveling. Yet this is a FPS so it's fun but adding the leveling part is a down side for me.

There are advantages to selling/buying accounts.
1. Person changes servers and does not feel like leveling another character.

2. Person purely hates leveling

3. Person does not have time to level a character and wishes he/she could just play w/o having to level.

SOE just has a stick up their ass because the customer is making the money not them (SOE).

and they'll be making less money since the new customer will only be playing for 1 month at BR20/CR5 before he gets bored than the person leveling for 2 months to get to BR20/CR5.

[PR24]

Originally posted by instant
and they'll be making less money since the new customer will only be playing for 1 month at BR20/CR5 before he gets bored than the person leveling for 2 months to get to BR20/CR5.

Or people don't buy the game at all seeing they have no time to level. It could go many different ways.

[Agathon]

Hamma,

When I left my EQ addiction, I was paid $400 in cash for my 56th Cleric account. He is well worth it with the gear he had and the epic weapon. The only reason I could see selling a PS account is to get your $50 bucks back. No one should pay extra for CEP/BEP. If having high ranks did change the price, it would be a TINY amount imho. It just isn't the same as EQ.

Frankly, the bugs lately drove me to the store to buy SWG. I get really tired of rearranging my windows, the crashes, and the glitches. If they don't start fixing some crap quickly, I'm going to be history. I just don't want to be frustrated every time I go to play. It isn't too much to ask. At least I have something to play as a break now when PS pisses me off too much from the problems.

;-)

[Happy lil Elf]

Frankly, the bugs lately drove me to the store to buy SWG. I get really tired of rearranging my windows, the crashes, and the glitches.

The irony in that statement is astounding :lol:

[MercFox1]

I knew it would happen! They drove you to SWG because of lack of support or Other reason.

[CrazyCrazy]

I doubt anyone would buy these accounts for much money. On the other hand I've seen accounts for eve-online go for over $300. This has actually created a group of power-gamers, who buy multiple accounts, spend all day and night getting isk and skills, then sell them at market when ripe. PS has an upper lvl limit that can be acheived in a few months of play, not really worth much money either since being BR 20 doesn't give you huge advantages over any other player. IN eve-online, there is a "realistic" economy and skills that take a ridiculous time to learn. Ultimately its crappy game that never gets fun, but you keep thinking it will get more fun when you have the right amount of money and skills, so you keep playing (kind of like working a job you hate that doles out benefits and raises at small increments over several years). Players bid on e-bay based on time they would rather not spend playing a crappy , poor new character, where people who started in the first week of release have a huge advantage. IN PS that advantage of being on early isn't really there. You can still have plenty of fun playing a new char, an leveling up to BR7 can be done in a few days. There's no economy, so no worries about accumulated player items. And the skill system in PS is easy and intuitive and skill points can be sold back and relearned. I really don't see a big demnad being generated for PS accounts, and I cna't imagine

[NarutoZX]

I never found Planetside boring. Theres always a battle you can join 24 hours a day. Theres support and attack certs, vehicles of all kinds. Lots of talented people that have learned where the prime spots are to snipe or deploy AMS for maximum effect.

I think the people getting bored with it are the people that wish that they could sit down and make little campfires and kill animals and somehow magically turn into an "uber lvl 50 paladin wargod - invulnerable to all attacks with a magic bullet repelling armor." The point of the game is that it is a full scale running FPS. Instead of playing one map of Counterstrike, you have an entire continent to hide and fight in, making for strategic front line battles. You WILL die in this game, because you are simply a mortal at approximately the same hp/ap as everyone else depending on their armor or config. Theres always a counter to whatever you're fighting in the paper-rock-scissors way.

I think the reason this game that turns people off is that they are so used to wallhacking, model hacking, awp camping, elite battle mage, group with 20 other people and never die games that they get incredibly frustrated when they continue to die at a normal rate when they play this.

Anyways, I still have that account for anyone interested.

[Hamma]

I think the people getting bored with it are the people that wish that they could sit down and make little campfires and kill animals and somehow magically turn into an "uber lvl 50 paladin wargod - invulnerable to all attacks with a magic bullet repelling armor."
:lol:

[instant]

Originally posted by NarutoZX
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I think the reason this game that turns people off is that they are so used to wallhacking, model hacking, awp camping, elite battle mage, group with 20 other people and never die games that they get incredibly frustrated when they continue to die at a normal rate when they play this.

Anyways, I still have that account for anyone interested.

Sadly you are mistaken.

The reason people are put off by planetside is that any action you perform in the game has _NO_ effect on the game as a whole.

You are not able to build permanent barricades nor are you able to destroy buildings, walls, towers, bridges.

People respawn so fast, in the base you are attacking its ridiculous.

There is hardly any strategy involved, or you may attempt do to it with your squad/platoom (not working STILL!) or outfit, but other players (IA-newbies) will distrupt those plans.

You are not able to train with your outfit as you will get grief points for killing other outfit members.

You are not able to CONTROL a Base - I.e. Outfit hacks the base - OUTFIT decides if the doors should open outwards or not. How many times have you been defending a tower and stupid players keep on opening the ground floor doors letting the enemy maxes inside. CC in a base should actually BE a CC - I.e. "Disable Turrets, Lock Doors, Raise Anti-armor barricades".

Even Bridges should have a CC so you could raise them, requiring air / boat units, or VS hovertanks to cross choke points on the map.

The reason people get bored in the game is that, after playing it for 7 days you have done and seen all - except for perfectly coordinated outfit attacks (rare) and you realize that you are paying 13$ a month for something you can play for free. I.e. a non "interactive" world where you have no permanent/visible effect in a environment that is so similar even though the terrain varies. You could rather play Urban Terror (q3), Operation Flashpoint, Soldier of Fortune 2 CTF, Rocket Arena 3, Tribes 2, and it would not cost you anything to play except for the initial purchase fee.

You are paying 13$ so that some users may hog the support lines and for SOE to implement unwanted features while ignoring game-critical bugs such as Spawn Tubes and Infiltrator Suits malfunctioning (although they could say that it would be realistic).

Where are the islands with permanent storm and low-range sighting, what about natural disasters / weather causing attrition damage to units/items. Where are destroyable windows/doors/walls/etc.

You see so much potential in the game lost...

The only reason to continue subscribing after 30 days would be if you like Beating other players (I.e. Winning).

And that "prediction i'm flying up stairs because I jumped and you have to aim in the middle of the air while he shoots you from his position somewhere else" sucks...

[CrazyCrazy]

Originally posted by Agathon
Hamma,

When I left my EQ addiction, I was paid $400 in cash for my 56th Cleric account. He is well worth it with the gear he had and the epic weapon. The only reason I could see selling a PS account is to get your $50 bucks back. No one should pay extra for CEP/BEP. If having high ranks did change the price, it would be a TINY amount imho. It just isn't the same as EQ.

Frankly, the bugs lately drove me to the store to buy SWG. I get really tired of rearranging my windows, the crashes, and the glitches. If they don't start fixing some crap quickly, I'm going to be history. I just don't want to be frustrated every time I go to play. It isn't too much to ask. At least I have something to play as a break now when PS pisses me off too much from the problems.

;-)


ummmm, go to the SWG forums and comapre the amount of bug complaints, poor service, and player frustration to the amount you see on the offical PS forums. If you're goign to SWG 'cause you are a big SW fan, I can understand that, but don't expect less bugs or better service :P

[Solendon]

I can definately see an account sold and bought on eBay. For example, what if someone bought one of those stupid 90-day game cards and then decided the game sucked 15 days in to the game? They don't want to loose the rest of their money so they might try to sell the remainder of the account?

:doh: :whip:

[LogicProbe]

Well I just got screwed out of $16. My experience with these games is that all you need is the software. Hell, usually you can download the damn software, all you need to do is pay for the subscription.

So the guy I bought it from used his 30 days and so I bought a 90 day card and it doesn't work.

I totally can't believe this. Maybe the personwho sold the game knew this, I can't say for sure. He says he doesn't remember his account name...Mmmm.

I really don't see any problem with this. Someone buys the game, doesn't like it. SOE loses a customer. I wouldn't buy this game for $50, but I would buy it for $16 and pay for a subscription. But now Sony get's jack from me.

Does anyone want to buy my game card for $30? I can email you the code or I can mail the card to you. This is not illegal because the damn card is not used!!!

[kelisis]

Hmmm, I don't know about this one, but I need some more money.....I am going to look in to selling my account....Rip some poor guy off.:D