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blueskin
2003-07-13, 06:38 AM
i play a ninja-neer and have done for a total of two days now (but managed bout 20hrs in that time)
and i tend to find quite a few nme ams's on my walks about the countryside. is there any better way to report them than *psst* nme ams nw bout an inch on map of base suchandsuch
i was wondering this because i have just found the /loc command which gives ur coords. u can also do /loc playername so if i call in an ams people do /loc blueskin and get the coords of ams but id there anyway to actaually have the coords displayed on map or nething or to set a waypoint using those coords? plz answer as this is a fairly major tactical problem
ty
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Deus
2003-07-13, 07:36 AM
Would make it too easy to OS them.

Hertston
2003-07-13, 08:45 AM
I always thought this was one thing the command structure should handle (rather than giving pointless orders summoning everyone to a one-base lag fest) . /tell a CR4/5 if one is around and let them inform the continent as to the location of the AMS you have found.

Mr1337Duck
2003-07-13, 09:14 AM
I'd like to see a /way command. You put in the coordinates and it slaps down a waypoint wherever you marked.

hulkhogan
2003-07-13, 10:34 AM
you can do a /location

blueskin
2003-07-13, 10:38 AM
how do i find a cr4/5 is there a list of em for werner anywhere?
ty

Arakiel
2003-07-13, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Deus
Would make it too easy to OS them.

It's virtually impossible to OS an AMS under a cluster of trees, anyway. If they're out in the open, it's easier to just send reavers after them then worry about OS.

Lonehunter
2003-07-13, 12:30 PM
OS's are so cool though :D

Deus
2003-07-13, 01:34 PM
It's virtually impossible to OS an AMS under a cluster of trees, anyway. If they're out in the open, it's easier to just send reavers after them then worry about OS.

Doesn't require a direct hit, nor is it always the case that it's being covered by trees. Actually, it's pretty rare.

Point is, that eventually everyone will be CR4+, it really isn't very hard. So, in big wars, there would always be someone with their OS available, and announcing exact locations of enemy AMS's over global, or command chat would mean that they could destroy every AMS they found instantly, from a distance, without much effort.

You can protect them from reavers, not from OS's.

Would be too easy in my opinion.

Revolver
2003-07-13, 02:18 PM
/loc <player name> doesnt work. It'll just give you your coordinates.

1024
2003-07-13, 03:07 PM
OK wait, so lets say you find an nme ams and use /loc to find your coordinates. You tell your SL so he can mark it, but how does he know where the coordinates you told him are, as in reference to the map?

Hamma
2003-07-13, 03:28 PM
You dont :p

I still think they should add a grid system for higher CR's

If your squad leader has CR4 for example, everyone on the squad gets grid on their map for easier marking/reporting

"Enemy AMS @ northern part of B25"

1024
2003-07-13, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
You dont :p

I still think they should add a grid system for higher CR's

If your squad leader has CR4 for example, everyone on the squad gets grid on their map for easier marking/reporting

"Enemy AMS @ northern part of B25"

This is teh smarts.

gonnagetyou
2003-07-13, 04:29 PM
The maps should have a grid system and everyone should have access to it.

ghost018
2003-07-13, 05:31 PM
One command...Reveal all enemies. You can usually bet money that a cluster of enemies is an AMS. Of course, the CR4 Reveal enemies doesn't have that large of a radius, so this is more of a CR5 tactic. Sure, this is a little off topic, but I was trying to make the point that it's already easy enough to find enemy AMS units.

ghost

BUGGER
2003-07-13, 05:54 PM
just look for a sniper, he's usually never too far from an ams, an when u start shooting him, he usually would run towards the ams.



taht or just shoot bullets randomly at a hill.

Deus
2003-07-13, 06:37 PM
Finding them is one thing, destroying them is another.

Yes, the CR5 "Show all enemies" is good for locating them, but still a CR4 OS, is more than enough to destroy them, and given the exact coords by superior commanders, will make them able to do so very easily.

Also, reavers might be the easiest way to get rid of them as it is, and it will also be that much easier, when it's exact coords get announced on global chat.

Many ways to find them, and many ways to get rid of them. Coords, would just make it that much easier.

Arakiel
2003-07-13, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Deus
Doesn't require a direct hit, nor is it always the case that it's being covered by trees. Actually, it's pretty rare.

Point is, that eventually everyone will be CR4+, it really isn't very hard. So, in big wars, there would always be someone with their OS available, and announcing exact locations of enemy AMS's over global, or command chat would mean that they could destroy every AMS they found instantly, from a distance, without much effort.

You can protect them from reavers, not from OS's.

Would be too easy in my opinion.

The OS expands from the apex of the beam and only does damage to things with a base on an equal or higher elevation as the apex. Thus, if you hit a small rock next to an AMS, that AMS is safe. Especially in, say, Amerish or Cyssor, you often have the option of putting an AMS in tree cover. Some CR5s (such as me) won't risk an OS on a concealed AMS unless they have a spotter for the beam.

Protecting them from reavers isn't terribly difficult in itself, though - toss 2 striker troopers, a Sparrow MAX, or whatnot near the AMS and you should be fine. Unless two or three reavers come at once, you can easily keep up with repairs.

The key to AMS longevity isn't finding a good spot, but rather moving it between several good spots in a fairly covert manner.

MercFox1
2003-07-13, 11:03 PM
But moving it will lower cloak, and teh spy f00lz like me will already have you targeted for an OS or Reaver Strike, which I specialize in!!!

Sentrosi
2003-07-14, 12:36 AM
a /report will send whatever you say directly to a higher Command Rank. I'm not sure if it works for those with no CR though.

NightWalker XI
2003-07-14, 02:54 AM
Well I use a simple method really, I tell squad member to get as close to enemy AMS if possible if they find it (even if they die) but if they die they don't spawn, first they tell me something like

"nme AMS at my position"

I go to the map, zoom in as much as possible and put a WP on the players location...simple

MercFox1
2003-07-14, 09:36 AM
I dont really think you'll be standing right next to an AMS......

NightWalker XI
2003-07-14, 09:51 AM
Obviously not but close enough, when a person arrives at the WP they will look around and see the AMS bubble

MercFox1
2003-07-14, 09:59 AM
Yeah, you'd better be infiltrator when you do that though....

Ohhh funny story. As an infiltrator, I was sneaking around on Cyssor at Gunuku looking for a battle. There was a big one for Gunuku at that point and I crept inside the base. I saw this huge cloak bubble inside and it was a TR AMS. So I ran up to right next to it, lobbed a plasma grenade inside and killed like two guys! I sneak around to the other side and go inside the cloak bubble and pwn some f00l at the inventory station with my Mag-Scatter. Then I get two Falcon MAXes to blast inside the bubble and they blow up the AMS. The TR f00ls never even saw me!!!

Cease
2003-07-14, 10:45 AM
Whats this game going to be like when every other player is a BR20 and CR4/5? I mean think about it. Even now I've seen fights for bases where the NC have launched half a dozen Orbital Strikes. Seems as this game matures the life expectancy of AMSs get shorter.

Its really not hard to find an AMS. Just get a cloaker to follow the ant trail back. And between Oribital Strikes, Reavers, and Liberators.... they don't last long once their position is compromised.

Eventually it will be pretty common for most squads to have a CR4/5.

NightWalker XI
2003-07-14, 11:39 AM
Its only easy to find because some people haven't grasped that this game is much more than musical bases, sure theres that going on but by using real strategy you can do a nice woopass...

Anyway, when I spawn at AMS I always flank the base, if someone follow my way back they won't find nothing

MercFox1
2003-07-14, 04:44 PM
I can't wait to see a faction get so far as to make attacks on a Sanc though....I just hope it's not my own.

1024
2003-07-14, 04:47 PM
I had a dream last night where i spawned in the sanc and there was TR running around killing everyone. I sneaked out with my infil suit and got to another cont with NC on it and i got a force of say 25 guys and took down about 200 TR, with the help of about 15 vangaruds :D

i knew it was a dream cuz i knifed a MAX :lol:

MercFox1
2003-07-14, 04:58 PM
lol a MAX getting knifed? I would pinched my armor and then woke up! But dreaming about PS? d00d you have a precious commodity we call a life right?