View Full Version : Sweeper vs. Jackhammer
AztecWarrior
2003-07-13, 10:38 PM
For some reason, I think that the Sweeper is more powerful than the Jackhammer, it's just that the Jackhammer fires faster. Am I wrong?
Airlift
2003-07-13, 10:39 PM
I don't have any solid data, but I think shots from the Jackhammer are a little bit more powerful than from a Sweeper.
Sentrosi
2003-07-14, 12:31 AM
Refire rate for the jackhammer is increased vs the sweeper. Jackhammer holds 16 rounds while the Sweeper only holds 8.
AztecWarrior
2003-07-14, 12:33 AM
Here is the question, revised.
I shoot Hamma once with a Sweeper, then switch to Jackhammer and shoot once. Which one shot did more damage?
Spider
2003-07-14, 12:34 AM
I played for a while on my nc character now... and let me tell you that the jackhammer owns the sweeper.
I made 2 runs one after the other first I tried jackhammer and made a 20 or so kills in that run... with the sweeper it was a mere 5 kills then I got shot from medium range (and the sweeper doesnt like it)
jackhammer all the way!
(it's gonna get owned by lasher once the patch goes thru tho)
Katanaboy
2003-07-14, 12:39 AM
dont know about it being owned by the lasher. The people at SOE didnt listen to the community when they asked for faster projectile speeds. All they did was increase the refire rate, so now people can still dodge the bolts, they'll just have more to dodge.
Onizuka
2003-07-14, 01:01 AM
well lets see, since all these people want the jh nerfed and not the sweeper, and the sweeper is not heavy assault and not an nc special, the jh should pwn the sweeper in every possible way.... badly
Originally posted by Onizuka
well lets see, since all these people want the jh nerfed
thats cuz they can get it. :rolleyes:
Vowels
2003-07-14, 01:25 AM
The way I understand it is that the sweeper does a bit less damage than the Jackhammer, under 5m range, but the Jackhammer damage drops hugely over 5m and the sweeper damage is more moderately reduced with each range increase.
Thus, the sweeper does more damage at medium range, but otherwise is a lesser weapon. Like comparing a modern-day 12 gauge pump shotgun with a sawed off 10 gauge semi-auto shotgun that had an extended magazine modification and a faster refire time.
And I still like the Lasher better, hehe, but maybe just because I like flinging glowing blue spheres at folks.
FearTheAtlas
2003-07-14, 09:02 AM
The Lasher is litterly gonna own anything indoors after the patch, if it's how it's gonna be on the test server, it takes around 3 shots to agile-standard, 5 reinforced, 15 or so to MAXs...I could be off one or two, but I *THINK* this is how it's gonna be.
MercFox1
2003-07-14, 09:43 AM
Til the infiltrator comes up and knifes him...then the NC grab the Lasher and start pwning VS ass
FearTheAtlas
2003-07-14, 09:45 AM
true enough I suppose, but the VS have an infinite supply of these, NC and TR only have what they can hold in their locker.
MercFox1
2003-07-14, 09:47 AM
I would just kill another VS and grab his Lasher if I lost my first one.
Happy lil Elf
2003-07-14, 10:36 AM
The Sweeper and Jackhammer do the exact same damage per actual projectile fired. The Jackhammer just fires more of them, fires them faster, and holds more rounds per clip. The Sweeper fires slower, fires less actual projectiles, and holds less rounds per clip.
So no the sweeper is not more powerful than the Jackhammer. At medium range it's a toss up but any assault rifle will own them both so /shrug
Cease
2003-07-14, 11:50 AM
The Jackhammer will not get owned by a Lasher when the patch goes through. The Lasher will just be a weapon you gotta respect now. Which means the many JH players are going to actually have a challenge now. Many will meet the challenge head on and be fine. Many will get their asses handed to them because they've been using the JH as a crutch. I'd expect the NC population to decline somewhat after this patch however. Vanu may get a boost in population now. They'll have a good HA weapon along with the ever popular Magrider... very attractive indeed for the flavor of the month types.
WritheNC
2003-07-14, 12:12 PM
The Jackhammer will not get owned by a Lasher when the patch goes through. The Lasher will just be a weapon you gotta respect now. Which means the many JH players are going to actually have a challenge now. Many will meet the challenge head on and be fine. Many will get their asses handed to them because they've been using the JH as a crutch. I'd expect the NC population to decline somewhat after this patch however. Vanu may get a boost in population now. They'll have a good HA weapon along with the ever popular Magrider... very attractive indeed for the flavor of the month types.
I hope you're right. I'd like more people to fight and kill thx :)
I have heavy assault, but use gauss 80% of the time anyway. No clue why that is. I'd also love the new lasher I'm sure, since I play "smart(or cowardly if you prefer to call it that)" and I often run out of ammo and start scavenging anything I can find! ;)
Zentenk VA
2003-07-14, 03:33 PM
Actually if a Sweeper guy and a JH guy met up face to face w/ 1 round in each gun, fired and reload. Sweeper would win. :D
Happy lil Elf
2003-07-14, 04:26 PM
Only if the JH user is an idiot :p
MercFox1
2003-07-14, 04:56 PM
And only if the sweeper rips out another sweeper full up....
AztecWarrior
2003-07-14, 05:52 PM
I used the Sweeper as my backup weapon if my Reaver was shot down, but now I got a Jackhammer, ph33r me!
Indecisive
2003-07-14, 08:25 PM
Point Blank:
Sweeper 3 shots
JH 2 shots
Nerf teh jackhamma! :D
AztecWarrior
2003-07-14, 08:38 PM
Nerf players.
JonnyK
2003-07-14, 08:38 PM
sweeper blows goats for quarters (i have proof)
jackhammer slaughters goats in their sleep like modern....eerrr future day charlie manson, only with triple barrel hardk0re fuxXing ownage action mixxEED in
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