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MJBuddy
2003-07-15, 09:20 PM
That though these races are highly advanced, incredibly powerful, and ingenius and design. Why are there no boats?

I mean, theres water everywhere, theres vast oceans and lakes...yet no boats.

I reccomend we condsider what sort of Aquatic attack forces are possible

Common Pool: Jet-Ski 1-3 man quick moving vehicle, perfect for getting out of sanc and getting to conts quickly

U-Boat: just a basic U-Boat, manned by 5 or so people with machine guns and 2 high caliber guns.

Transport: i want large scale water and air based ivasions. U-Boats giving cover, planes bombing and firing on defenders, and transport ships filled with tanks and troops landing on beaches while Jet-Skis land and move into action would be incredibly cool.

NC Only: Battleship. Incredible range, slow moving, supremely powerful.

Vanu: Water-to-land hovercraft transporting attack boat :) holds 5 people who can fire their EQUIPPED gun out of the sides. Would be great both on and off land.

Terran: Submarines. Hard to spot and must resurface every 5 minutes or so. Both the Vanu and NC boats should have exploding charges able to drop down onto the Submarines

Also, along with these vehicles, higher BR would be needed. No one can support a good number of things in the future with just 20.

opinions?

Navaron
2003-07-15, 09:25 PM
Trust me, next time SOE feels a surge of customers leaving, aquatic battles and vehicles will quickly find it's place on the "in the future updates" list. Then you'll get to pay for it as an expansion.

BUGGER
2003-07-15, 09:38 PM
ya mean the skygaurd an lib wer put in because peeps wer leaving? hmmm....



it wouldnt be hard, i mean they made the deliverer able to flow thru the waters, just make vehicles unable to run on land and hey, u gor urelf a boat that will die if it hits land.:rolleyes:




o an if vs would go on land an ocean, get them lik em big hovercrafts. an i like the ablility to shoot your own weapons from the craft, its like a havoc in tribes2.:nod:

Doppler
2003-07-15, 09:48 PM
Boats = Nice big targets for airpower. Submersable combat could be cool, get all your armor shredded off you, start loosing health. Rather then water I'd like to see lunar battles, or urban fights.

Deadfist
2003-07-15, 10:53 PM
There are aquatic transports in the game, as well as aquatic attack vehicles. They're called the Deliverer, MagMower, and Thresher.

Deadfist
2003-07-15, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by MJBuddy
Vanu: Water-to-land hovercraft transporting attack boat :) holds 5 people who can fire their EQUIPPED gun out of the sides. Would be great both on and off land.


See above. Real boats will prolly come in expansion.

shinken
2003-07-15, 11:26 PM
this would also give another use for the lib, mabye thay coud give it depth charges or sumtin

Hexen
2003-07-16, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by MJBuddy
That though these races are highly advanced, incredibly powerful, and ingenius and design. Why are there no boats?
I guess these highly advanced empires didn't see any need of using boats, when they have already mastered airborne vehicles. :D

Though speaking of battleships with incredible range. I sure wish PlanetSide had some kind of teambased artillery in. I'd like something similar to the artillery system in BF1942 (Scout calls artillery target with binoculars, guy on artillery can look through "indirect fire" camera of the target area and fire on it). Doesn't have to be exactly the same as BF obviously, but anything that enables artillery to be more than blind spamming over the terrain would be great. :)

I say all this because, I like artillery.

I guess this is kind of off-topic though..

.... Oh well nevermind. :P

PeregineDive
2003-07-16, 01:02 AM
I like the Artillery Idea. Reminds me of Orbital Strike, but funny and better :D It would definetly add some more depth to the gameplay - as would aquatic based combat. But having a submarine... thats kind of tricky.

Having Aquatic battles would spread the already thin Sever populations out even more. There would probably need some base relocations, or new ones entirely.

All together thought, I really like these ideas. Would definetly spice up gameplay... knowing SOE - they'd want to make it an expansion... bleh.


-PD

1024
2003-07-16, 01:02 AM
MJ, you're not the first one to bring this up, trust me.

MJBuddy
2003-07-16, 01:42 AM
actually i think i may be, i first brought it up the day i got it :)

now i just have an ironed out idea of what vehicles would be cool

also, these idea would be great if they had the cont lock scenario that someone else posted, meaning that the conts stayed permanently locked and such

diluted
2003-07-16, 01:44 AM
whats the point? what about continents with zero rivers / water?

its pointless.

Teyb
2003-07-16, 03:11 AM
a few things to consider:

first of all: they would probably have to make whole new bases for capping, as you might notice, many of the facilitys are not located on water. another thing: you said earlier that watercrafts would make it easier to travel from cont to cont, well, trust me, i've tried the hard way, and apparently once you get far enough away from land, you explode... also: if you notice: most of the battles dont really happen near large lakes and such. in fact, almost no fighting happens near the coast. and lastly: they DEFINATLY need urban fighting. Cityfighting is about 75% of the cool in large scale battle games.

Hexen
2003-07-16, 03:16 AM
Yeah, I thought about that too Teyb.

I didn't see why it would be so hard to implement minor bases on the coast or riverside with a water vehicle pad. We have towers, why not coast outposts? :)

Milenko
2003-07-16, 02:10 PM
Hey MJ like the idea! They'll need water bases or something...and maybe like a harpoon weapon of something and let us swim! So we can have some underwater fights...we could have like water suits or some shit so we would have oxygen. Have a base underwater that can let you spawn submarines or something. I know in unreal there was an underwater base in assalt mode or something can't remember and you had to swim to it and go thru a door to get in. Something like that in PS would be fun.
-=The Great Milenko=-

pauljar1
2003-07-16, 02:18 PM
Where are the mess halls? Don't these people eat?

NCG JMan
2003-07-16, 04:57 PM
As far as the sea (submersed battles too) are concerned, SOE devs did say/mention that they were thinking of ways to create battles outside of base/tower areas. I think the water battles would be a good start. :) I am all for the sea battles.