CSR's are idiots.

[nightcr4wler]

That's right, all Customer service rep's are completely ignorant and good for nothing. Here's the reason: Just for the privacy of my friends and players I won't include any names of anyone that was involved.

As everyone should know CR4s and 5s get Oribital Strikes to be used against Enemies, to have fun a few people were messing around with the Orbital strikes and dropping them on a friendly vehicle pad. Yes it was a mean thing to do, but it's a game and should not be taken so seriously, aside from the continent was 98% our's and there was nothing better to do. Well the idiot players blamed a friend of mine, let's just leave it at that and a GM set his grief level to 1010, plus any grief that he might of had. And let it be noted that this CR5 did not OS the vehicle pad, he OSed a few commanders who ASKED him to do so. What they did was kill each player when he hit fire and then killed him so no grief was received and the names of the players weren't on the death messages.

Yes, I know it was a horrible thing to do, but I'm sure many people play around and TK people. Aside from this my friends and me, all fellow CR5s /appealed this outrage and we're merely shot down, and my poor friend wasn't responded back by any CSR to my knowledge. What is stupid about this? An innocent player gets blamed for doing nothing and the CSRs don't even look into what happened. What is that? It's nonsense.

Anyhow, if you don't care, fine, whatever it doesn't bother me at all. But I feel that people might want to know that our CSRs really don't do anything for the players except abuse their powers. Just my honest opinion on the matter.

[Joe-Azlin]

wow dude that sucks

[nightcr4wler]

It definitely does. I think we should hold a mutiny and oust all the CSR's from their spots and put new ones who actually know what the f**k they are doing. Because obviously these goons don't.

[Diddy Mao]

That Sucks Man Start a Pettition. Just gett'n the other Cr 5's and such to sign it! But more tha just cr 5's and friends they would take notice "probably" tis just an idea. All esle fails give the names of The Trouble make to me I'll OS em!

[1024]

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/sucksforyou.gif

err...him.


EDIT: wow i've used this smiley in the past 10 minutes mroe than i have in a month. hmm.

[Trol]

Yeah you guys killed some peeps 5+ times that were trying to get vehicles doing that stupid shit. He deserved every bit of the grief, in fact I hope they "soulmarked" all of you for it.

WHether he knowingly did it or not, the fact stands I'm sure in logs that he helped you guys TK people.

[Smaug]

Yeah its great to learn that our wonderful commanders pass the time by tking friendlys that are just trying to play. You dumbasses deserve all the grief you get. I don't care if you were just messing around, you said it yourself some people were OSing vech pads. Those people were just trying to get vehicles, not be killed by dumbasses. If anyone is abusing their power its you.

[Cauldron Borne]

While I agree that the OSing of inoccents is out of taste, the blaming of another 'innocent' is worse. If he didn't OS the pads then he shouldn't have been blamed and the nutter who blamed him should be punished equally. whats his name maybe a KOS for a day or two would suffice? or maybe a massive bombardment of /appeals to the CSR's to amend the problem? or a massive bombardment of OS's on the perpetraitor?


And now for something completely different...:
http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/ROFL.STARWARS.NERDS.wmv

[iKernel]

yea that sucks! lets make a petition that says CR5s can TK any1 they want and get 0 greif, they are to be worshiped as gods, and SOE has to PAY THEM for playing the game. Sound good right? Cant do the time dont do the crime. He did the crime of TKing and now must do the time of waiting for his greif to drop. Now if he didnt do any of the tking then he should call SOE or something.

[Onizuka]

hey nightcrawler..... i was there cursing my ass off. revolver told me to run and i did.... im glad i did.

that was the gayest 15 min ever.......

EDIT: in fact i have pics of the gay ownage.... observe:

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/PSScreenShot1076.jpg

[Doppler]

Sounds like you got what you deserved. *shrug*

[diluted]

Originally posted by Onizuka
hey nightcrawler..... i was there cursing my ass off. revolver told me to run and i did.... im glad i did.

that was the gayest 15 min ever.......

EDIT: in fact i have pics of the gay ownage.... observe:

http://www.dodstudios.net/uploads/uploads/PSScreenShot1076.jpg


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg thats the BEST


btw i stopped playing planetside i think im going to let my gamecard finish off then literally shit on the game.

[Jaged]

That pic is worthy of the word owned.

[Doppler]

It had been used against the other team....

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by Smaug
You dumbasses deserve all the grief you get. If anyone is abusing their power its you.

[Caspertoo]

Gotta say I agree with the consensus here, sounds like he was tk'ing and was using a trick not to get grief. Or perhaps he was just "following orders" which led to a good deal of tk'ing. Either way it was probably pissing the hell out of people at that creation pad and if I had been there I would've been bitching just as much.

No different that some asshat who drives a ams up blocking the spawn tube of another ams.

No different than a galaxy driver who picks up a full load of people then flies over the ocean/deep water and ejects them all.

No different than when a CR5 starts global spamming some BS message, like a asshat the other night moaning about how great cheesy burrito's are and they rule all, over and over and over.

What your buddy did and all those examples have one thing in common, it pisses off other players. My opinion is that its about time the Customer Service people did SOMETHING.

[Revolver]

See, you're not following, tho. He was accused of OSing 5 times within 10 minutes. Possible? No.

//edit
For those who aren't 4/5 and haven't tried OS, theres a 3 hour delay between strikes, like the 20 minute delay between see friendlies/see enemies/EMP

[Vis Armata]

There should be no reason for intentional team killing.

[Revolver]

I understand that. But he's getting more than he deserved.

[Happy lil Elf]

You do stupid shit, you get stupid shit done to you /shrug

[Navaron]

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
You do stupid shit, you get stupid shit done to you /shrug

Bingo. As wrong as Elf is about PS, he's right about this.

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
No different than when a CR5 starts global spamming some BS message, like a asshat the other night moaning about how great cheesy burrito's are and they rule all, over and over and over.


Are you talking about Klar? I think that's his name. I waited for him to talk about something explicit, then he started talking about fucking his girlfriend and I took the opportunity to tell him that I'm gonna report him to Sonny. I didn't but I will if he ever spams again.

Edit: He stopped spaming once I told him that. :D

[nightcr4wler]

You seemed to misunderstand. I didn't OS anyone, I was actually fighting for a couple bases while this went on, but when the command chat filled up with this stuff I drove over and watched the nameless people OS the people at the vehicle pad. Anyway, the person who got blamed was wrongfully accused, that's the fact of the matter.

Edit: You can't OS 3 times in a row, there were 4 or 5 seperate CR5 commanders doing this. The one who got accused didn't OS anybody. I think I'd know him a lot more than any of you. So the consensus is 80% wrong. It was stupid shit, but he got blamed for doing absolutely nothing. The people who were doing it were having fun but none the less it was stupid and an innocent CR5 got blamed by the retarded CSR's who probably couldn't tell their elbow from their ass.

[Smaug]

You said it yourself that the people who were OSing showed up nameless. I'm guessing they did this by logging off before the OS went through or something? Anyways how can you be sure that this person who got grief was wrongly punished. You can't really. Just because he says he didn't do it doesn't me he didn't. Now if he was in a different base, or in the basement of the base that's a different story. Please clarify why he is innocent.

[Revolver]

I can tell you how I know. I have CR5 chat. I could hear who's 'turn' it was. I could hear them saying "Ok, lemme do this one."

Plus smaug, I don't know how many times I've had to say this, but:
You cannot use an OS more than once every three hours!
He was accused of OSing 3-5 times (different people said different things) within 10 minutes. This is impossible.

[BDMJ]

I can indeed vouch for the innocence of the cr5 that got slammed with grief. I was listening to the command chat the whole time, and it was more than clear that the one blamed was not the one responsible. I would have taken screenshots if I had thought this would end up as anything other than a case of "lets give people more reason to tk cr5s and send them idiotic tells then ignore them."

[EarlyDawn]

If the CR5s wern't dicking around in the first place, this wouldn't have happened, to the wrong guy, ironically enough. Sucks, life moves on.

Way to bump an old thread BTW. :D

[r3d]

EDIT: Rotf wrong thread :D

[TeeTee]

I've got two points. Well, there's a third - but it's been said before.

1) If your little CR5 butt-budies actually cared about the poor sap that got the punishment, they should've stepped forward. The CSR's aren't there to sort out the playground quarrels, they're there to make sure that stuff like this doesn't happen again. Your friends acted like idiots, and in turn got what they (well just that one guy) deserved.

2) Your innocent little friend is in no way innocent. He killed those CR4/CR5s doing the OS's so they wouldn't collect the grief. He in fact was working around the punishment system in-game. As such, he's probably the main one that deserves the grief.

3) You and your little groupies are idiots, plain and simple.

You and your 'boys' learnt a lesson, that's all that matters. Enjoy.

[EarlyDawn]

That was brutal.

[TheRegurgitator]

wtf is up with you bitches he didnt deserve anything

[1024]

He's exploiting the greif system. he's lucky he didnt get banend from the game.

[nightcr4wler]

Now just to clarify things. Revolver and me were watching the command chat and we were there to witness it, we know what happened and my friend sure as hell was treated unfairly by a CSR. If he did OS the vehicle pad, which he didn't HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GOT GRIEF, the real culprits didn't. Seems you children don't listen at all. The CSRs didn't investigate, they went off the lead of a n00bie who said he Orbital Striked the vehicle pad 3 TIMES IN A ROW. He got 1010 grief for doing nothing but leading the attack on Hossin and he get's griefed because a n00bie /appealed out of pure ignorance. AGAIN YOU CANNOT OS' 3 TIMES IN A ROW, THERE IS A 3 HOUR DELAY ON BOTH CR4 and CR5 Orbital Strikes. The fact of the matter is the CSRs never looked into anything, they were ignorant and went off the slandered testimony of a person who hasn't played enough to even know that a commander can't orbital strike 4 times in 20 minutes.

TeeTee, we all stepped forward, the 7 commanders that I know of all sent /appeals but we were given the same message over and over again: Thank you for your concern but we are unable to give our information about an account that is not your's. Remember there were about 5 people doing this, my friend wasn't any part of it and he got blamed for it by n00bies.

Smaug, the people showed up nameless because chosen people killed them when they said so, none of the people that did it was my friend, and he didn't just say he didn't, you don't know him. You don't know the way he acts, like I said before. He Orbital striked 4 commanders that asked him to do so, fellow squad mates perhaps. That isn't deserving of 1010 grief points, or is there anyone that cares to go against me on that?

As for LNS, that's the reason everyone left you in Frente de Libertia. As your best friend you disregarded it but it's time you realize the facts; Everyone HATED you, they hated the way you ran the outfit and they hated the way you acted like a so called leader. That's why they followed me and we made Kizo. "Have fun in PS, Mike" remember you said that to me? I guess you feel really stupid because I'm the one having fun, you're just a irrelevent speck acting like you usually do; with ignorance.
Logan, it's time you understand how worthless you are. You sit at home, time and time again playing your computer and video games and then logging on to AOL or PS to berate us. You are nothing now, you and your 3 IRL friends that you probably don't even talk to except for Rich. I'm amazed that he still has is neutrality after the stupid shit you did. Anyway, it's time to grow up Logan, you can't sit at home and play computer games and act superior forever, but I guess that's all that n00bies do. Wait, a n00bie has far greater worth than you, let's just call you a hopeless, that suits you perfectly. :]

1024, he didn't exploit anything. He didn't kill a commander to make them not get grief, if you think that you misunderstood.

Sorry for bringing an irrelevant issue into the thread, allthough it's been turned into a joke anyway I guess it doesn't matter. Thank you Revolver and BDMJ for actually supporting someone who didn't get shit, and everyone else who understood.

[Smaug]

Originally posted by Revolver
Plus smaug, I don't know how many times I've had to say this, but:
You cannot use an OS more than once every three hours!


Nah really, you can't?! NO SHIT. Nowhere in my two posts did I say that you can OS every ten minutes. Gee its a damn shame that a CR5 got some grief but let it go man if he is smart he probably didn't play for maybe 2 days and his grief is down to about 700 or so and its playable. Big fucking deal he got some grief couldn't play for 10 minutes cuz of weapon lock. If you feel that its that important that he was wrongly accused why are you sitting here bitching, go talk to the CSRs. I'm not gonna read nights 3rd post or whatever(the really long one) because its just filled with 'he was wrongly accused' spam. Yeah I understand this its a shame that he was wrongly accused but just move on. Even though I have no right to talk I bumped this old thread :p. And I'm very sad that I did.

EDIT: ok I just read your post night because I couldn't resist and saw that you did appeal. Whatever just regard that whole part about whining to CSRs..... move along.....

[BDMJ]

By the way fear forum necromancy :D

Anyway to anyone that says the punishment for orbital striking friendlies is the grief and that the unnamed cr5 was assisting them in dodging the system doesn't have a single clue. Guess how much grief orbital striking any number of friendlies gets you....... TEN GRIEF POINTS


Thank you and have a nice day.

[Winged_Nazgul]

Never assume. You know how the rest of the old saying goes.

Never assume the CSR doesn't know that you can't use an OS more than once every three hours. If it was up to me, every one of the CSR5's involved would've gotten the grief instead of just the one guy. Consider yourself lucky this wasn't the case. Or you could just follow your own advice:

it's a game and should not be taken so seriously

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by Winged_Nazgul
it's a game and should not be taken seriously

That's exactly why everbody should just let this go, shit happens, get over it.

[Strygun]

everyone knows the CSreps for PS are unsatisfactory.

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by nightcr4wler
As for LNS, that's the reason everyone left you in Frente de Libertia. As your best friend you disregarded it but it's time you realize the facts; Everyone HATED you, they hated the way you ran the outfit and they hated the way you acted like a so called leader. That's why they followed me and we made Kizo. "Have fun in PS, Mike" remember you said that to me? I guess you feel really stupid because I'm the one having fun, you're just a irrelevent speck acting like you usually do; with ignorance.
Logan, it's time you understand how worthless you are. You sit at home, time and time again playing your computer and video games and then logging on to AOL or PS to berate us. You are nothing now, you and your 3 IRL friends that you probably don't even talk to except for Rich. I'm amazed that he still has is neutrality after the stupid shit you did. Anyway, it's time to grow up Logan, you can't sit at home and play computer games and act superior forever, but I guess that's all that n00bies do. Wait, a n00bie has far greater worth than you, let's just call you a hopeless, that suits you perfectly. :]
[/B]

:stupid:

Looks like someone has penis envy. Your bunch of fecking cowards should have spoken up if something was wrong but they decided to be pussies and keep it to themselves. As for "sitting around and playing videogames all day", uh, WTF are you trolling on about? I'm not the one complaining about CSRs on a public forum, and this post had nothing to do with FdL, it had to do with your jackass little CR5 friends dicking around and abusing the grief system. I've already heard from a reliable source that without guidance from me, you're like a fish without water so I doubt Kizo will be a long standing outfit.

Regardless, if you want to piss and moan (maintain your status quo, basically), take it to PMs. Nobody on this forum save Honkis (Name is The President, if you're interested) has any idea about what we're talking about. Yes, it was an injustice towards your CR5 friend, and yes, the CSRs obviously didn't examine the facts, but he WAS exploiting the system nonetheless, so he got what he deserved. A great deal more then his personal share, but what he had comming to him nonetheless.

As for sitting around and insulting people on the internet, how long did it take you to write that post out? If you recall, I blocked you on AIM so I didn't have to put up with your whiney BS, so if there's anyone who's warmongering, it's you. You should expect me to respond if you post something on a public venue and open it for public discussion. :rolleyes: As for the rest, I'll just discard it as your standard psuedo-intellectual BS that goes along with just about everything you say.

Another poorly considered statement; can you prove I'm not having fun in PS? I really don't think you can, personally. I could PM you a list of all my friends, but that statement proves you debate, and think, for that matter, at a 4th grade level. You were let go as a friend. Why? I'll boil it down into simple terms you can understand. You try to act smart and refined, but you aren't. You're what we call a "poser". Sitting at home and playing video games? You're the one bitching about CSRs in a game relative to an event that didn't affect you, so I think you should analyze your own position before you criticize me. Hypocracy at it's finest.

Check your PMs.


[Edit: I have NEVER initiated a conversation with anyone from FdL since the breakup, I've only talked to you, and Descada, both conversations started on your side. Despite your blurring of the facts I think you remember what was said between us, and Descada was subsequently blocked several days ago because he decided to, again, play the supposed master of psychology and was shut down for being an ass, plus dishing out some threats. So if anyone's berating anyone, it's KizoControl. C'mon now, let's not lie to ourselves and others, it makes you look bad and you don't need my help for that.]

[nightcr4wler]

LNS, start learning how to read pal. HE DID NOT EXPLOIT THE SYSTEM. He didn't kill another CR5 to not give them grief, he stayed out of their way and a CSR who did no investigation went off the lead of a n00b. That's the fact of the matter, and the reason I wrote all that true stuff about you was because I'm sick and tired of you getting in my face with your egotistical bullshit.

Edit: Descada was being an ass to you for a very good reason. I really couldn't care if you talked to anyone in my outfit, the fact of the matter is in FdL you berated us, you treated us like shit and I was the one that tried to make them have fun in the game while you acted like a complete psychopath to everyone and me. There's no excuse for your faults and we didn't decide to bring this to your attention because frankly, you are not deserving of our time.

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by nightcr4wler
LNS, start learning how to read pal. HE DID NOT EXPLOIT THE SYSTEM. He didn't kill another CR5 to not give them grief, he stayed out of their way and a CSR who did no investigation went off the lead of a n00b. That's the fact of the matter, and the reason I wrote all that true stuff about you was because I'm sick and tired of you getting in my face with your egotistical bullshit. Egotistical bullshit? I remember being sent a quote by you from Honkis or Glin saying "MY Guild will be the best, MY guild will be Number 1", so don't even open your mouth. And I'm notv the one who had a copyrighted website about Eliteism, so sit down :rolleyes:

As for your friend, that sucks, wrong place at the wrong time, then. Keep petitioning or talk to Sporkfire. He's pretty handy about circumventing CSRs to deal with account/grief problems, and in this case, a Offical Forum post may be in order.

[nightcr4wler]

Copyrighted website? Rofl. It wasn't copyrighted and what does that have to do with this? I wrote a paper oh damn sue me.

[EarlyDawn]

The point was that if anyone is egotistical, it's you.

This is fun, keep going :D

[nightcr4wler]

Just one quick thing for WingedNazgul.

If a CSR gave me grief, there would be no ending to the wrath I would make the sorry SOB endure. But it wasn't me, it was a friend and it could happen to any other CR4/5.

Edit: WingedNazgul, don't tell me that this isn't a serious matter. I'm not going to let a innocent CR5 get blamed for something he didn't do, whether it's a game or not. And that advice was directed towards LNS, not this current subject.

[nightcr4wler]

I've been egotistical, not to my friends however. You were the one that did that, not me.

[Madcow]

Growing up does need to be done on both sides it appears, but don't let that stop this from escalating. Drama is a nice diversion of the day.

[EarlyDawn]

What? Now you're ignoring CR1-3s? DISCRIMINATOR!

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by Madcow
Growing up does need to be done on both sides it appears, but don't let that stop this from escalating. Drama is a nice diversion of the day. Indeed. :p

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by Madcow
Growing up does need to be done on both sides it appears, but don't let that stop this from escalating. Drama is a nice diversion of the day.

I'll second that

[EarlyDawn]

Heck, I'll third it.

[BDMJ]

*in the distance, barely audible but growing louder with each additional post*


JERRY! JERRY!


JERRY! JERRY!


JERRY! JERRY!

[Winged_Nazgul]

nightcr4wler,

If you were involved in this little comedy of tears, I think it's only right to tell the CSR this so you can get your share of grief points. Its only fair and right, wouldn't you say? Since you seem to care so much in seeing justice done.

I didn't say it wasn't a serious matter. It just seems weird how you get bent out of shape with an innocent getting grief but give no thought to orbital striking friendlies just going about their normal business.

[nightcr4wler]

You can tell the CSR anything you want I really don't care what you do. But what I do care about is innocent people getting blamed for shit they didn't do.

So Winged you do what you have to do, I wasn't involved in the orbital striking, I witnessed it and know who the true people are. But no, I won't disclose their names. And it seems weird that you get bent out of shape because I'm defending a friend. Do you have a problem with it? If so, too bad.

[EarlyDawn]

Well, since we've joked our way out of our previous dispute, I'll summarize my thoughts on the issue.

1. Encourage them to turn themselves in. If they were to spread the grief over several people (assuming they don't give 1000 to everyone) it won't be as painful to handle.

2. Don't disclose names. That can, and probably will have reprecussions for you in-game.

3. Be sure to remind the CSRs that you are only a witness, and did not participate. They'll probably stonewall you with the usual "Can't talk about it because it's not your account."

4. Like I said, Talk to Sporkfire. He's good with these things. Use witnesses.