View Full Version : New Conglomerate to powerful?
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 12:21 AM
I have a problem with the NC. They have the biggest base capturing advantage. There is no weapon on VS, or TR that can compete with the Jackhammer close range.
Evem in the discription of NC's weapons, it says they have very powerful weapons, but a slower rate of fire. Now, I do not believe that the Jackhammer has a slower rate of fire than any other weapon in the game, and niether does the Guass.
I think for the net patch, they should stick with thier description of NC's weapons, and slow down the rate of fire.
-sptdexs
ThundaHawkPS
2003-07-25, 12:27 AM
Excuse me, have you picked up a "lasher" lately? Try it then make a more informed judgement. (btw the gauss is a slow firing AR).
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 12:32 AM
Yeah, I know overall the Lasher does own the Jackhammer medium, but in close quarters(like in base caping), the Jackhammer owns. And I dont see any difference in ROF between the Guass and the Pulsar.
-sptdexs
Slamscape
2003-07-25, 12:34 AM
why don't we just get really big knives as our only weapon, we can only swing them once every 15 min though
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 12:37 AM
Haha, but what if you miss...
Eliaas_Demens
2003-07-25, 12:40 AM
I stand by my statement. Jackhammer = short range. Lasher = medium range. Mini Chain Gun = "long" range.
Inside buildings, a Jackhammer is gonna make anything it's bitch.
More open fights like courtyards are the Lasher's domain.
Longer range shootouts such as base sieging and bridge battles makes a MCG more useful than the other two.
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 12:43 AM
What really annnoys me about the Lasher, it how slow the bullets fly, if they flew faster, it would be the best anti-vech in the game, but its too hard to get the timing right when the vech is moving.
Eliaas_Demens
2003-07-25, 12:46 AM
That's what Lasher users wanted in the first place - to be able to hit a friggin' moving target. Before the change the Lasher was enabling people to do their best Neo impression dodging all the orbs.
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 12:47 AM
Lol, I would give up some some of that ROF speed for higher bullet speed.
Intruder
2003-07-25, 12:56 AM
IMO (back to topic) NC are more powerfull at normal Fps tactics, run up get killed repeat.
But if you got 2 squads with compitent players, all experience in tactics and such, NC would have a harder time winning, if they concentrated around the JH.
So to conclude NC arnt too powerfull, people just have to learn to play sligly differently.
kidriot
2003-07-25, 12:58 AM
What really annnoys me about the Lasher, it how slow the bullets fly, if they flew faster, it would be the best anti-vech in the game, but its too hard to get the timing right when the vech is moving .
that's troll material. obviously you're not serious. you're annoyed a heavy assault weapon doesn't double as the "best anti-vech in the game" ???
as it is, lasher is way too strong against armored units.
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 01:03 AM
Thats what I was trying to get out, That the Lasher is in fact a very powerful weapon, but it is to hard to hit targets when it's bullets fly so slowly.
Smaug
2003-07-25, 01:16 AM
I believe the guy who said lasher is almost the most powerful AV wep meant *lancer.
If you're havng problems fighitng the jackhammer up close, bust out a lasher and wopp them form the otehr side of the hall. Is it really that hard to think that up?
sptdexs
2003-07-25, 01:24 AM
huh, that'll never work, when ever i turn a corner, pop pop pop, dead. I only wish i could wait at the end of the hall for them, but I have no way of knowing when the will come
s'Part of the game. Shit happens.
Cauldron Borne
2003-07-25, 01:44 AM
lob grenades around corners. also your assuming ALL NC use the JH. They don't anyone who says otherwise is a guy who just wants to complain about something with out opening his/her eyes. like a blind man complaining that the sun is too bright. Yes, at first many NC used the JH and many of those people were neww to the game and wanted the weapon with the biggest umph. NO, most of them do not still use it. your much more likely to meet an NC pheonix, sniper, gauss, SA user instead. I prefer the lasher over the other 2 HA wapons because it is the best over all 'medium' of them.
Now for something compleately different...:
http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyondergames/trailers/ROFL.STARWARS.NERDS.wmv
Doppler
2003-07-25, 03:06 AM
Ah *pulls out flamethorwer from pocket* USE THE DAMN AUDIO AMP NEWB IT LETS YOU KNOW WHEN THEY ARE COMING
aiwest420
2003-07-25, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by sptdexs
I have a problem with the NC. They have the biggest base capturing advantage. There is no weapon on VS, or TR that can compete with the Jackhammer close range.
Evem in the discription of NC's weapons, it says they have very powerful weapons, but a slower rate of fire. Now, I do not believe that the Jackhammer has a slower rate of fire than any other weapon in the game, and niether does the Guass.
I think for the net patch, they should stick with thier description of NC's weapons, and slow down the rate of fire.
-sptdexs
wtf are you smoking?
you want the jackhammer nerf'd after they boosted lasher/mcg? making the jackhammer FUCKING USELESS?
FliggenMan
2003-07-25, 03:30 AM
The Heavy Assault weapons are freeking deadly as hell, every single one, and they dont need changing after every winer on the boards bitches about overpowered HA weapons after the patch. Lasher should not work good outside, nor should MCG, nor should JH. Pulsar still needs RECOIL toning, because of its precision theme. That is all.
Cauldron Borne
2003-07-25, 01:18 PM
Haha you like that 1024? hey all the HA weaps are supposed to be powerful. that would be why they are called HEAVY ASSULT. DUH. I don't think it should take a genious to figure that out. jeez! heavy=uber for all you $%#@* leet users.
(go to the link in my previous post). Ok my rant here is done.
May the force be with you!(for me to poop on)
Some people would be better off playing Pac-Man and Frogger.
You know waht, screw it. My solution to the HA weps: JUST SCRAP THEM!
Originally posted by Cauldron Borne
Haha you like that 1024?
OFN = OLD FUCKING NEWS
Navaron
2003-07-25, 04:34 PM
These new guys are a real pain in the ass.
Happy lil Elf
2003-07-25, 05:04 PM
New Conglomerate to powerful?
No.
Revolver
2003-07-25, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by 1024
OFN = OLD FUCKING NEWS ASSHAT
:rofl: Another forum n00b falls to the wrath of 1024. Please note that the text in red is what I think should be added :lol:
As for NC too powerful, like it was said, Don't get onto our turf. It's like the German Pilots bitching about getting owned by the RAF at the battle of britain. they gave up their advantage (they had roughly 10 minutes of fuel left when they got to britain) and naturally got greased by the spitfires.
Point is, stick to your advantage. don't whine how your empire should pwn anywhere anytime.
I realize that that's not what this thread is, but I want anyone who makes that generalization to stop and think before you type.
ZionsFire
2003-07-25, 08:11 PM
me totally agrees:nod:
shinken
2003-07-25, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
No.
:stupid:
Hexen
2003-07-25, 10:53 PM
I want the old lasher back. :(
Bismarck
2003-07-26, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by 1024
If you're havng problems fighitng the jackhammer up close, bust out a lasher and wopp them form the otehr side of the hall. Is it really that hard to think that up?
And for me??? what do I do? Close quarters the MCG cant compete with the JH. Oh well, I guess im just gonna have to use my pounder and kill all of ya before you even know what's going on....
EineBeBoP
2003-07-26, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by sptdexs
I have a problem with the NC. They have the biggest base capturing advantage. There is no weapon on VS, or TR that can compete with the Jackhammer close range.
-sptdexs
..... :huh: :eek: i saw this topic and just thought...
WTF? where has this guy been the last 2 weeks?!
NC is most underpowered now. were loosing ppl. left and right.
Everay
2003-07-26, 11:18 AM
then for shits sake man, more for your sake, STAY AWAY! i hate players that bitch when one side has an advantage at a certain place or range, i accept it, you should too, i know im not gonna hit jack when i fire my hammer at something a long ways away, thats why i love VS weapons, accuarate, a smart medium assault Vanu will kill a Jackhammer swinger alot, only if you play smart, so quit bitching about the fact you have to THINK
Joe-Azlin
2003-07-26, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by sptdexs
Lol, I would give up some some of that ROF speed for higher bullet speed.
me too.... I think its far more important when trying to kill someone.
sptdexs
2003-07-26, 06:20 PM
and you would know with your 4 kills..
Arthell
2003-07-26, 08:24 PM
The MCG cant really compete in close quarters when going up against the other HA weapons. The MCG was classed as 'long range', but its accuracy is still horrible, even when crouching. :confused:
Winged_Nazgul
2003-07-27, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by sptdexs
and you would know with your 4 kills..
How do you know his 4 kills weren't all the top guys on the kills leaderboard? :D
Xxzard
2003-07-27, 02:58 PM
against jackhammers my jumping around doesn't work. I think its so easy for them because all the other weapons are a little too inacurate, so for them they point it in the direction of me shoot three times i'm dead. So much for indor battles thats why i got a MAX
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