View Full Version : Is the Planetside Website correct? If so, Congrats VS!
Cease
2003-07-27, 10:49 AM
Am I'm reading the site correctly? Seems the Vanu won on every server yesterday.
Lonehunter
2003-07-27, 12:02 PM
First and last time.
Who was it that i bet this was going to happen again? Someone owes me 100 bucks. :D
Cyber
2003-07-27, 01:14 PM
There is nothing to congratulate them on for Emerald.
The global world map is hidously broken.
TR won emerald yesterday, easily if you had been in game for most of the day. We had all our backyard for 5+ hours during the day. We had half of solsar or all of frequently, we half or mroe of cyssor for most of the day, we hald a good portion of Amerish and alot of Oshur for most of the day.
Yet you look at the maps in there and there is no clear reflection of what was going on. Emerald Alliance moved in and took Cyssor, fought for it for almost the whole afternoon. And during that time we held everything we took in the back area, yet the global map shows that Wele belonged to the NC for the whole day. We had all of Cyssor locked down at one point and the NC did bounce back and recover all of it. Yet you can't find any evidence of either of those things happening when you look at the global map for Cyssor over the last 24 hours. (And it hasn't been over 24 hours yet)
It's also awarding the VS bases on Ishundar and Forestal for the whole day that belonged to us (we had them locked down for at least 4 hours)
The world tracking system needs to be looked at it's very frequently not updating bases correctly and when it doesn't those bases sit under the wrong sides controll for hours on end.
This isn't meant to be a whine, I don't care much who wins the daily winner but congratulating anyone on winning or not is out of place given how broken the system is right now.
Lonehunter
2003-07-27, 01:20 PM
I was kind of curious at first, Vanu winning every server :rolleyes: come on. I just kind of went along with it.
SasukeMurisama
2003-07-27, 03:41 PM
maybe... lahser...... pwnage...........
TR RULES!
Revolver
2003-07-27, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by SasukeMurisama
maybe... lahser...... pwnage...........
TR RULES! uh...yeah
is cuz of the n00blar flood to go get the lasher....amasing how well sony is doing at "evening" out the empires
Arakiel
2003-07-27, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Cyber
There is nothing to congratulate them on for Emerald.
The global world map is hidously broken.
It's broken, yeah, but we still dominated the server yesterday. We locked Forseral, Esamir, and Oshur around prime-time and had near-locks on Hossin and Amerish at the same time.
Cyber
2003-07-27, 05:15 PM
It's broken, yeah, but we still dominated the server yesterday. We locked Forseral, Esamir, and Oshur around prime-time and had near-locks on Hossin and Amerish at the same time.
For most of the afternoon / early evening yesterday TR dominated the server by a far larger extent.
We had Ceryshen/Ishundar/Forseral locked, had good portions if not more then 50% of Solsar/Amerish as well as most of Cyssor and then started a raid that took all but two bases on Oshur by the late hours of the night (we lost Cyssor by the time this was completed though.. can't hold everything).
But I guess it's all in perspective, without a working historical count it's hard to really gauge who was winning. I do know that when we were really dominating enough NC/VS had logged off for our normally even population to account for 38% of the server. :)
TR was dominating far more from what I had seen though. Your Forseral lock was earlier in the day when we started in on Cyssor ( I remember cause people where calling for us to head to there isntead of Cyssor) by the time we had half of Cyssor we had already relocked Foresral. By the time we had all of Cyssor but two bases we had also all of Amerish but two bases, half of Solsar and Mugen was starting up his raid on Oshur.
I ended the night on Oshur at 3am with you guys only having 1 base was it? I know you were there defending as I bumbled my tired ass repeatly up to the backdoor and got nooblashered down by you. VS had a Hvar hack going but the only other base that wasn't ours was the one you were in.
At any rate until that map is fixed to accurately reflect again what the in game map shows, daily winners are pretty pointless.
Arakiel
2003-07-27, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Cyber
I ended the night on Oshur at 3am with you guys only having 1 base was it? I know you were there defending as I bumbled my tired ass repeatly up to the backdoor and got nooblashered down by you. VS had a Hvar hack going but the only other base that wasn't ours was the one you were in.
You guys rushed the back door again and again with 4-6 people (including DP MAXes) and it was, for the most part, just me and Sydarm holding you off. You're damn right I was using a lasher. Nooblasher? Hardly. Outnumbered and outgunned and still holding that hall? Yup.
Fuck that bitterness about being outskilled and outmanuevered.
Hamma
2003-07-27, 05:28 PM
It's called a lashammer, dammit.
Cyber
2003-07-27, 05:44 PM
Fuck that bitterness about being outskilled and outmanuevered.
Spamming the backdoor = 'outmanuevered'?
Tearing maxes appart equally fast as players cause your gun has overpowered AV abilties is 'outskilled' ?
And the magrider on squish patrol in the courtyard made the other entrance even less of a successful proposition.
You just keep telling yourself that your skilled and it's not your overpowered gun that's winning the day.
Oddly enough time we did get down and into the base... I cleared both of you out with a Lasher. Hmmph. :P
ghost018
2003-07-27, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by 1024
Who was it that i bet this was going to happen again? Someone owes me 100 bucks. :D
When we did it we didn't have 40% of the server population behind us. It seems like the NC should have done it at least once by now, seeing as to how they had the most players (ala Jackhammer) for several weeks back before the latest patch.
ghost
PS: When I said it would never happen again, I was talking about another Terran victory. I didn't think I would have to spell it out a second time after another Terran player did in a reply to the original thread. The organization or lack there of is what tends to kill us, not to mention the population sizes.
Arakiel
2003-07-27, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Cyber
Spamming the backdoor = 'outmanuevered'?
Tearing maxes appart equally fast as players cause your gun has overpowered AV abilties is 'outskilled' ?
And the magrider on squish patrol in the courtyard made the other entrance even less of a successful proposition.
You just keep telling yourself that your skilled and it's not your overpowered gun that's winning the day.
Oddly enough time we did get down and into the base... I cleared both of you out with a Lasher. Hmmph. :P
Tearing maxes apart with a decimator and landing them both at the same time is "coordination."
Shrug, you took the base after we left because the servers were downed.
If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.
Your flippant "noob" comment was, to say the least, foolish.
Originally posted by ghost018
When we did it we didn't have 40% of the server population behind us. It seems like the NC should have done it at least once by now, seeing as to how they had the most players (ala Jackhammer) for several weeks back before the latest patch.
ghost
PS: When I said it would never happen again, I was talking about another Terran victory. I didn't think I would have to spell it out a second time after another Terran player did in a reply to the original thread. The organization or lack there of is what tends to kill us, not to mention the population sizes.
Whatever.
Incompetent
2003-07-27, 07:53 PM
If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you. Last i checked pounders deal damage to teammates, two idiots with lashers can spam all they want and will almost never hit each other, two pounders actually have to check their fire depending on the situation.
Edit: i should also compliment you on the INSANE amount of skill it took to run us all over with a magrider on our first run
Vis Armata
2003-07-27, 07:59 PM
Well, I'm NC, and I had fun yesterday (there was a particular bridge battle on Searhus where we encountered TR infantry, one of the best open-field actions I've seen in awhile), so that's all that matters to me. Stats are just icing.
Arakiel
2003-07-27, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Incompetent
Last i checked pounders deal damage to teammates, two idiots with lashers can spam all they want and will almost never hit each other, two pounders actually have to check their fire depending on the situation.
Edit: i should also compliment you on the INSANE amount of skill it took to run us all over with a magrider on our first run
Personally, I would like to note that I was duly impressed that you and your teammates thought that rushing a tank with small-arms weapons was a good idea. As opposed to running in the back door, you made the unique decision to assume that perhaps this single magrider was constructed of corrugated cardboard and plastic. I salute your tactical genius and mourn your messy death.
If you're telling me that two pounders standing next to each other have to check their fire to make sure they aren't, by chance, firing directly into the ground, or, say, at a small bug on the other MAX's visor, instead of down the hallway which was occupied by no TR, perhaps it's time to take some physics classes. If two pounders at the top of a back door can't kill two VS infantry with decimators and you attribute it to the infantry being lucky n00bs, then, sorry, you're clueless. :)
Piith
2003-07-27, 08:11 PM
Bridge battles are the best battles :rock:
Joe-Azlin
2003-07-27, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Arakiel
Tearing maxes apart with a decimator and landing them both at the same time is "coordination."
Shrug, you took the base after we left because the servers were downed.
If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.
Your flippant "noob" comment was, to say the least, foolish.
I am at your service GOD.... and yea thanks for shutting him up :)
Incompetent
2003-07-27, 09:18 PM
Personally, I would like to note that I was duly impressed that you and your teammates thought that rushing a tank with small-arms weapons was a good idea. I don't think anyone even fired a single shot at you, only one of us even GOT to the back door, i'm suprised you even bothered to shoot him, because your talking like you don't know you ran over two of us within spitting distance of it.
Cyber
2003-07-27, 10:11 PM
Shrug, you took the base after we left because the servers were downed.
If you're under the impression that a lasher takes less skill than 2 pounder maxes, well, then I'm not even going to bother talking to you.
Your flippant "noob" comment was, to say the least, foolish
Hey, I didn't come back after the servers went down.
Yes, the lasher does take less skill, pounders can't surge, pounders can be dropped in oh, 1 second with a decimator. They're slow and not nearly as effective when moving and not locked down.
As for my 'noob' comment, that weapon is noobish, your not a noob but that doesn't make that weapon any less skilless or noobish.
It still hits people when it misses meaning that aiming is a secondary requirement. Noobs aren't good at aiming so this is perfect for them.
It doesn't have any damage fall off over range unlike every other weapon in the game, yet another noob friendly feature.
It hits every target for the same damage irregardless if it's a tank, max, sunderer, ams, whatever. Noobs don't have to worry about having the right weapon for the task. The lasher is a workable weapon for every task.
It's the only AOE spam weapon in the game without grief problems. So unlike the pounder a noob won't get weapons lock with this gun.
It's an extremely noobie friendly gun, I'm surprised you don't see that. :)
Arakiel
2003-07-27, 11:17 PM
Every single weapon in this game is newbie-friendly and that's largely why the game is doomed. There's very little learning curve. The difference lies with being able to use the weapons to their full extent.
I've never denied that the lasher is newbie-friendly. I think the MCG is slightly more newbie-friendly but less effective in skilled hands, but, again, that's another thread.
Incompetent, I used the mag to drive there from the sanc. Past that initial mag run, I didn't use one. I know for a fact that after my initial pass past the back door, there were cyclers and MCG users standing there looking like targets firing at me instead of rushing the back door.
But, anyway, this is a bit of a thread derail. Just don't call me a noob seemingly randomly and we're all good. :P
Hamma
2003-07-28, 12:02 AM
The lasher will be toned down, I just hope it doesent take them a month to realise its overpowed like the JH
Piith
2003-07-28, 12:29 AM
:confused: is every thread that has the letters "VS" going to end up being about he Lasher :sick:
Onizuka
2003-07-28, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by Hamma
The lasher will be toned down, I just hope it doesent take them a month to realise its overpowed like the JH
ok.... so youve called every ha weapon thats not your own overpowered. no i seriously think the lasher needs a tone down, if it gets within a mile of you, your hurt.
MJBuddy
2003-07-28, 01:55 AM
JH should be basically bursting death between 0-25m(at this point it is effective up to 30 with a small penalty past that)
MCG should be chain death between 25-50m(at this moment it is about as powerful as JH in close range, and i know that for a fact because ive lost a reinforced exo vs reinforced exo with a JH from standstill 8m, and this was before they closed its COF)
Lasher should have a large lash area but should BARELY be useable indoors for that reason. It should take more then 1 clip to kill a MAX, and it should be able to rip the fuck out of tanks. Range shouldnt be the issue with it, it should be its versatality. Firing a little less then a clip at any soft target other then point blank should kill them. Question:say you shoot a lasher at someone point blank, does the lash hit the person who shot it? I havent got to test this to see.
I havent really played the game because frankly this was a whiners way to go by SOE. This is much different then the MAXs, which were statistically and obviously slaughtermachines. The JH(the cause of all this shit) was an effective instant kill indoors. Now the MCG can kill u outside or inside in about the same time period, and the lasher can destroy maxs and infantry about as fast.
VS has too much of a weight on their side now, and i was already tired of gettin lagridered, sniped with lancers, and lashed, so of course make it better.
Now, can we hope to see the neccessary changes to striker and pheonix, and fix the damn AA VC MAX? No, because no ones bitching about the obvious flaws.
Hamma
2003-07-28, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Onizuka
ok.... so youve called every ha weapon thats not your own overpowered. no i seriously think the lasher needs a tone down, if it gets within a mile of you, your hurt. Welcome to the online world of bias gamers. People can't deny that TR has been getting the shaft
Piith
2003-07-28, 05:01 PM
[okay goig to give in for this once]
I dunno, but I do not see the over whelm use of the lasher, and I have been killed more by a Lancer then I have by a Lasher.
This may al be due to the time I play since most kiddies are tucked into their cribs when I play.
now on another note,
a couple buds of mine are VS, they play a different server then I, I check there stats time to time, since the patch, they changed their certs , and have tripled there kills. The certs show now where they can use the LASHER
so in the end,
have I seen this mass use of Lashers, no I haven't, Do I belive the storys about it, yes I do. Then again, I haven't played for a week now, DUE to game hasn't arrived yet, and 7 day trial ended 1.5 days after the patch. :rolleyes:
ghost018
2003-07-28, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
Welcome to the online world of bias gamers. People can't deny that TR has been getting the shaft
:cheers:
ghost
Arakiel
2003-07-28, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
Welcome to the online world of bias gamers. People can't deny that TR has been getting the shaft
TR has been since day one the most balanced faction in the game. TR is not getting "owned" now because TR has, as per always, a solid repertoire of good weapons.
Madcow
2003-07-28, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Arakiel
TR has been since day one the most balanced faction in the game. TR is not getting "owned" now because TR has, as per always, a solid repertoire of good weapons.
I agree with this. Some TR might feel like we've been given the shaft because the last 2 buffs have gone to NC and VS, and both of those were (comparatively speaking) overkill. In the meantime the MCG has turned into a useable weapon, we have an excellent AV choice (although not as great as other factions seem to think), our medium arm is very nice and our MAXs are certainly worth the certs. Even when our MAXs got nerfed it wasn't a crippling nerf. Do I think that the Lasher needs to get smoothed out a bit? Yeah, it's a bit too strong in a bit too many situations. I don't think that makes TR any weaker, though, we can still do many things well.
Cease
2003-07-28, 07:00 PM
I personally don't feel TR has gotten the shaft. I think the MCG, while being the weakest of the 3 is fine as a HA weapon. What we lack in HA we make up for in our Cycler, Maxes and our Striker.
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