Too many Orbital Strikes?

[Eliaas_Demens]

Obviously as people level, more CRs are being gained, and more OS's are being used. But won't this eventually spell virtual OS spamming? What happens when everyone and their brother is packing an OS?

[Sleepwalker]

uhhh...
no.

[Eliaas_Demens]

In two hours I was either killed in, or seen a friendly AMS wiped by an OS a total of seven times tonight. So "uhhh... yes".

and haven't you been BR 11 for like a month?

[ghost018]

Maybe, eventually...but what exactly do you think could be done about it? Trying not to come off as an ass, but state a possible solution to the problem you bring up. Personally, I think that the three hour re-charge is enough to limit Orbital Strike usage. Today, I'd say about 40% of the OS's I saw launched from all sides were unsuccessful. When I say unsuccessful I mean they either detonated ontop of a tree or only killed a handful of people. Doesn't sound all too battle-stopping to me.

ghost

[Harps]

yep i dont think it will be a problem, specially since when u get that high of cr people are ganna start gettin bored and move on then u get the new wave of cr5s :rolleyes:

[SkittlezX]

Fact is a unlucky Reaver flying over the spot the orbital strike is supposed to hit would stop the OS. I know this because me and my leader put on a OS show and I was in a Reaver with a pile of vehicles below me. It hit me only. Everyone else was mad. So it is effective if it hits. and 4 hour recharge is good enough to limit it. BTW anyone who got struck by the QA's orbital strike at the end of the test on the test server got Pwned. All out hell broke out afterwards. Pretty tight. Point is OS's aren't all that threatening so lets all move on with our lives. Out. Skitt :)

[Streamline]

How would you OS spam? The timer is 3 hours. If you see alot of OS activity. Then there's just alot of cr4+ in the area and they wanna spend there OS before they gotta goto bed.

[Piith]

Originally posted by Stream|ine
How would you OS spam? The timer is 3 hours. If you see alot of OS activity. Then there's just alot of cr4+ in the area and they wanna spend there OS before they gotta goto bed.
that myght explain why only once I have seen one, and that was at a distance, I had no idea what it was, I thought eweee, pretty lights, any ways like I was starting to say, that myght be why I never see them, kuz everyone has went to bed, ( I get on LAte).

[FireWolf22]

In Three months I have seen three. Last two this month. The first was was from over 200 meters away. I didn't even know what it was. Second same thing. The last was about 50 meters away from me from the TR. I like it. Other than that I havn't seen very many of them. I can't see how they work all that well due to the time it takes for the Strike and the area they cover. OS Spam? I think not.

Wolf

[Queensidecastle]

The most I have ever seen in one battle is 3. Hardly a problem

[Revolver]

Yes, and the 3 hour timer really makes it easier. If you're having OSes in such short intervals, it's a rare occurance, and something you shouldn't give too much thought. And if every1 gets to my level (CR5), then so be it. it's a game, after all. And there are others!

[Nixon]

One thing to remember is that the Orbital Strike chews up outfit points. Doing some quick calculations, my relatively small outfit on Johari can do about three strikes a week... if we did a fourth strike, we'd begin to lose outfit points based on our current trend.

That said, we made the decision to pretty much never use an orbital strike unless the majority of our outfit is online, and nothing but an OS would change the tide of battle. As it stands, there's nothing an OS can do that a well-made squad can't.

[Eliaas_Demens]

It's not a problem now, no. But more and more CR4 and 5's will continue to show up as the game progresses. But I thought the outfit point eating was only a rumor? If that's true, then there's not much problem.

[Sleepwalker]

a couple of things:

a) i've been br11 for a total of about 5 days. it's slow, because i'm also being SL part of the time now (cr 1.5)

b) i play on konried, where the population is low, to my liking. orbital strikes are VERY rare. mostly, the cr5's just shout out to the zerg where they should go next.

c) it is absolutely true that they eat outfit points.

[00AgentDuck]

I think that they should give more abilities then just orbital strike and emp blast to chose from, it would allow for more seletive use of the abilities because you would have to decide which one to pick. I have no idea what they would have the other abilities be, maybe give the ability of invincibility for about 30 seconds. It would take alot more outfit points and it would have a very long recharge rate. This would also only be allowed to cr 5's and you have to be br 18 or higher. Just emp blast and orbital strike don't lure me into becoming a high ranking cr. I can lead squads, haven't been able to because I'm still working on br, without any cr at all. Cr would just make it easier to lead a squad, but I would still like the cr's to have more abilities.

:trrocks: :ncrocks: :vsrocks:

[Sleepwalker]

i think it would be best if CR gave you command certs, and there were about ten abilities to buy from. that way, maybe you could have orbital strike by CR3, but you can't see enemies or friendlies or write on the maps.

[1024]

Honestly, i don't see enough OS's. I just depend on where and when you fight.

[ghost018]

Orbital Strikes don't take any Outfit points yet and I'm willing to bet they never will. Is that a good thing? Yes. You need to remember that when some people reach the pinacle of the game (CR5, BR20) they eventually get bored with it. At least 4 of the original Terran CR5's on Markov are gone now. They left but new people arrived. For "everyone and their brother" to be able to launch Orbital Strikes they'd all have to be at least CR4, something that will probably never happen.

ghost

[Queensidecastle]

So if you are a CR5 and not in an outfit, you can launch Orbital Strikes?

[Febnon]

the only os i have seen killed about twenty people crowded around a freindly it hit and was like WAT THE and then i see a stupid allie say oops and twenty kills show up. he sad he got 1500 grief points. pretty funny

[Cyskoraeban]

I've been playing for a few months now; my kills are relatively low due to the fact that I play support roles, but I have YET to see an OS. Doesn't seem like much of a problem to me....

[Revolver]

Originally posted by Eliaas_Demens
But I thought the outfit point eating was only a rumor?

Originally posted by ghost018
Orbital Strikes don't take any Outfit points yet and I'm willing to bet they never will:rolleyes:Originally from the Official Site "Future Plans" Page
Orbital Strikes cost Outfit Points to use, so Commanders should keep in mind that they're spending their Outfit's collective points when using this ability.

[Streamline]

Chances are that if you have an OS you did something to earn it. The player is likely a bread winner for the outfit and earns plenty of points. I don't believe they cost anything ATM but even so. If/when they do, large outfits with lotsa points and cr4+. I doubt can OS enough to drasticly effect their points.

[ghost018]

Dear Revolver,

That was originally stated before the Command Features were even implemented into the game. Tell me, why didn't they put a price on Orbital Strikes from the beginning? And just how many patches have been released since they said OS's would cost Outfit points? Ponder that one.

ghost

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by Febnon
the only os i have seen killed about twenty people crowded around a freindly it hit and was like WAT THE and then i see a stupid allie say oops and twenty kills show up. he sad he got 1500 grief points. pretty funny

Impossible.

The grief on OS seems capped at 50 and generally happens in multiples of 10. I've hit 5 friendlies (oops) with an OS and only gotten 20 grief. One of the VS CR5s OS'd a huge group of friendlies a couple weeks ago (enemy ams was hacked and quite a few friendlies spawned there.. ouch) and got 20-some friendly kills and still only got 40 grief.

[Arakiel]

Originally posted by Stream|ine
Chances are that if you have an OS you did something to earn it. The player is likely a bread winner for the outfit and earns plenty of points. I don't believe they cost anything ATM but even so. If/when they do, large outfits with lotsa points and cr4+. I doubt can OS enough to drasticly effect their points.

I'm in a small outfit with 6 CR5s and 2 CR4s - if they ever *do* make them cost OPs, we're gonna be struggling to use them at all after a week :p

[Eliaas_Demens]

The method of killing an AMS is drastically changing. Rather than having Reavers or Liberators bomb the hell out of them, or sending in MAXs and tanks, the 'attack force' is now a bunch of jackasses in agile with surge on. Once they mark the spot with their body, their groupies break out the OS.

[Piith]

opps :rofl:

that is funny ..
"hey what happens if I push this pretty red button .. . opps"
maybe this is why you have 2 keys to lauch a nuc :brow:

[BDMJ]

Agile with surge is the wrong method for spotting amses. Infiltrator with surge is the right method, with nearly %100 success rate to back it up. Or the best is having the cr4/5 in the infiltration suit, and just dropping the os on yourself, guaranteed results!

[Nixon]

If I recall, when they first implemented the OS the other month, it DID NOT eat any outfit points. However, as planned since its creation, I think a patch afterwards corrected that and it now currently eats up outfit points... something like 3000. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong... though please provide a source.

[ghost018]

Orbital Strikes do not cost anything.

ghost

[Eliaas_Demens]

I'm seeing Orbital Strikes go off on Emerald every half our or so, which is not an insane rate. But I'm concerned this may be a problem later on when there are more and more CR4 and 5s. And think of the poor satelite!