Has the lasher been nerfed yet?

[Xenar]

Just checking...

If not, is the nerf set in stone?

Cause I'm thinking about selling back my HA now and trying a couple other weapon combinations.

[X-113]

No, and no.

Sorry.

[Xenar]

I hope they don't cause I just tested the guns again and Lasher is the only one that fits my playing style... Maybe I'll have to switch empires cause the Vanu weapons aside from the Lasher just don't do it for me :mad:

[tmax]

its gonna get nerfed in the near future, you can log on the test server to see how it works downgraded right now but there not exactly shure what there gonna do to it yet

[Xenar]

I personally think it's just fine how it is... JH + MCG are better at it close range depending on how you play, but the Lasher is more versatile - which I think balances it. It's definitely not any good past low medium range, but it's DECENT (not godly or necessarily overpowered) against vehicles if they're standing still and MAXs.

[aiwest420]

check out the forums daily......


http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

[kidriot]

I personally think it's just fine how it is...

heh. i'm wondering whether u play the same game as the rest of us

[ccarlin8]

The MCG would be awesome if you had boxes of bullets that were 100 and not 50. Then I wouldn't have a problem with any of it, but when you can carry 3 boxes of JH ammo, 3 medkits, and 3 boxes of phoenix ammo and have plenty of ammo to deal with most stuff, that kind of irks me. If you did that with the MCG, you'd have 150 to 200 bullets depending on if you carried a med app or some engie juice or something, which is not enough seeing as it takes about 40 to 50 bullets to kill a moving target. That thing burns through ammo like none other. The other problem is that that lasher can use the same ammo and be pretty good, not ungodly it doesn't tear through stuff like people say, but pretty damn good at killing a max or vehicle. It absolutely is the king of close quarters fighting too, but that's fine, it should be damn good in a hallway. With the JH and MCG you have to carry armor piercing ammo, which is a whole other box, to even have a snowball's chance in hell of killing armor, and it's probably not going to happen even then. So, up the ammo count on the MCG boxes and I could give a shit less what they do to the lasher. The only thing I'd wish they'd change about it is lower damage at range, like most other weapons, or not, doesn't matter. Just want the MCG to be comparably cool. As it stands right now most people will save the 4 points and just use the cycler, cause the MCG is like a souped up cycler that burns through ammo quicker.

And by the way, I love the pulsar. Made a VS guy on Markov to try the stuff out and didn't even cert in HA after using that thing. It's COF is awesome and it fires really fast. It also has a good clip size. I don't see why more people don't use it, because I was kicking ass with it.

[Xenar]

Yeah I agree I like the Pulsar a lot... but I just don't find myself in situations where I should use it instead of the lasher. Also I only use agile instead of reinforced armor now so I don't have the 2nd rifle slot. Before I carried it around for medium-long range since the Lasher really sucks for that. I think the Pulsar is my 2nd favorite VS weapon. I might use the Lancer but the huge ammo boxes w/ only 6 in each really leaves you no space for anything else.

[Caspertoo]

But thats just it, the lasher is BETTER than the JH at close range, which just shouldn't be!

The JH can do 4 rounds, fast reload do 4 more, but he JH can unload its entire clip before the JH shoots off 8 rounds.

[Cyber]

Originally posted by Xenar
Just checking...

If not, is the nerf set in stone?



Is it nerfed yet? No the change was not ready in time to make the current patch.

Is the nerf set in stone? Yes.

Sporkfire's state of the Lasher post made that clear:
".... the Lasher as it had been on Test Server this week will be the Lasher that goes live. We feel that the weapon has struck an even balance between the opposition. It remains deadly and versatile, while inline with its counterparts. As we do with every weapon, particularly after an adjustment, we will be continually monitoring the Lasher to make sure it remains effective relative to the other Heavy Assault weapons in actual play sessions. "

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum8/HTML/011002.html

[Xenar]

So... what ARE the changes then? (I'm looking for the exact changes, not just reduced effectiveness against MAX's and stuff)

[Will]

30% less AV damage, and a damage drop-off with distance, starting at 10m (I think).

[iKernel]

Originally posted by Xenar
I hope they don't cause I just tested the guns again and Lasher is the only one that fits my playing style... Maybe I'll have to switch empires cause the Vanu weapons aside from the Lasher just don't do it for me :mad:

PLEASE PLEASE SWITCH EMPIRES! If you are that kinda player i would rather be killing you than playing along side you. The new new lasher is still gonna be good against infiltry, just not max/vehicle/infiltry at range.

[Ceiba]

The new lasher will still be good, all the TR and NC players have tested it and given thier seal of approval. :rolleyes:

[Pyrrus]

Hello,

I've been playing as a VS all the way back from the beta days. Only since they have fixed the lasher have I been killed by it from a TR or NC using one. VS has finally gotten a weapon that has earned the respect of the other empires. No longer do I feel the need to fill my locker with chainguns and jackhammers.

[Katanaboy]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
The JH can do 4 rounds, fast reload do 4 more, but he JH can unload its entire clip before the JH shoots off 8 rounds.
so the jackhammer is better than the jackhammer?

[Revolver]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
...but he JH can unload its entire clip before the JH shoots off 8 rounds. huh?

[Katanaboy]

my thoughts exactly...

[ccarlin8]

He's comparing the lasher to the JH, but seemed to have made a typo instead of typing lasher, typed JH instead.

[Xenar]

Originally posted by iKernel
PLEASE PLEASE SWITCH EMPIRES! If you are that kinda player i would rather be killing you than playing along side you. The new new lasher is still gonna be good against infiltry, just not max/vehicle/infiltry at range.

I'm talking about me not liking the STYLE of weapons that an empire has, not it being the "flavor of the month" or not. I'll take a gimped weapon that suits my playing style any day over an overpowered weapon that just doesn't make that "connection". You probably don't know what I'm talking about though. I actually like the MCG's weapon design better than the lasher's, so I stop and loot TR's that I kill if I have time. I hate the lasher's slow moving orbs more than anything.

But I'm sticking with Vanu anyways, I'm already getting to a fairly high level and I've discovered an even more fun weapon to use depending on the situation - the bumper of my magrider! I like the guns too. At least I'll always have that :p (And DONT tell me they're going to nerf the Mag now ;))

[Madcow]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
But thats just it, the lasher is BETTER than the JH at close range, which just shouldn't be!

The JH can do 4 rounds, fast reload do 4 more, but he JH can unload its entire clip before the JH shoots off 8 rounds.

Besides the minor error of saying JH when you meant Lasher, you are talking about reloading after 4 shots with the JH which just isn't necessary. Even if you didn't kill your enemy in 4 shots (which means you're doing it wrong) you wouldn't have to reload.

[NCG JMan]

Originally posted by Katanaboy
so the jackhammer is better than the jackhammer?

I think we know what he/she means, but it was a confusing post. :p

[Ghost06]

Bleh... I still eat Lasher users alive with it's current "overpowered" state. Hard to kill a surge-strafing 2 shot killer.

[Cease]

It's definitely not any good past low medium range,

Every lasher thread has this statement in it in regards to the Lasher. Every thread. And yet... when I'm on the wall of a base I see Lasher orbs heading my way from a distance where I need to zoom to see the shooter. When Im on one end of a courtyard, I get Lasher orbs headed my way from the other end. When Im at the backdoor of a base, all I ever see is lasher orbs heading towards the door.

What puzzles me is if so many Lasher uses claim it sucks a medium+ range then why do so many Lasher users use it at Medium+ range?

[Aegis]

so after the nerf its still going to be better than the Jh at close range, still have the advanctage of hitting people behind cover with lash damage and still be better than the JH at medium range (lets face it the JH doesnt do anything other than short range)