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Spider
2003-08-05, 12:22 PM
As you all know I am on a 50 grand pension a year so i'm grabbing my ass for the moment....

Now... I have received a call for a job as security in a computer parts warehouse. It has hazard pay so it pays total a year: 200 grand..

Now I have practicly no training to do, being that I have my license for weapons such as a 9mm pistol, and that job involves me sitting on my ass and doing nothing until I hear suspicious something or the alarm goes off...

No uniform, a security pass, I can bring my computer there and play games etc. etc. on a T2 connection since the place doubles as a office too. If I stay with them long enough I can get top of the line computers for 300$ easy.

Now is it worth the risk? They told me that they are quite a few pacific break-ins but the last guy got shot in the stomach after trying to stop the guys. (they give a bullet proof vest now)

I mean I play all the time on the computer for alot of time... make money to grab my ass but I have the risk being shot... (again) should I take it???

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Spider
As you all know I am on a 50 grand pension a year so i'm grabbing my ass for the moment....

Now... I have received a call for a job as security in a computer parts warehouse. It has hazard pay so it pays total a year: 200 grand..

Now I have practicly no training to do, being that I have my license for weapons such as a 9mm pistol, and that job involves me sitting on my ass and doing nothing until I hear suspicious something or the alarm goes off...

No uniform, a security pass, I can bring my computer there and play games etc. etc. on a T2 connection since the place doubles as a office too. If I stay with them long enough I can get top of the line computers for 300$ easy.

Now is it worth the risk? They told me that they are quite a few pacific break-ins but the last guy got shot in the stomach after trying to stop the guys. (they give a bullet proof vest now)

I mean I play all the time on the computer for alot of time... make money to grab my ass but I have the risk being shot... (again) should I take it??? I would take it. I would also get a better gun. Most security guards get really crappy 9 mills. Get yourself a 45 or a 44, they are much better guns in my opinion. After that, its up to you. :D

Spider
2003-08-05, 12:45 PM
I have a colt .45 but can't use it, it would be against regulations or something... heck I could use my semi automatic hunting rifle! BUT NOOOOOO!!

JonnyK
2003-08-05, 12:50 PM
well if i was you, i'd set up like a camoflauged spot around your computer, and play with no sound, then if he comes in, he wouldn't see you right away, and you could just camp out untill he gets near you then, BLAM right in the gut. use the biggest baddest gun they'll let you have and cap his ass. then go about your business. and you said 200 thousand a year and cheap ass computer parts? fuck man, that's good livin :D

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by Spider
I have a colt .45 but can't use it, it would be against regulations or something... heck I could use my semi automatic hunting rifle! BUT NOOOOOO!! Regulations? Pffft. Bring it in in your computer bag or something. The only way they will ever find out you have it is if you shoot someone with it.

Also, make friends with a cop who works the area, see if he can't stop by every now and then, park his car out front and come in and talk with you. People looking to steal things will tend to shy away from a place they see a cop car in front of on a semi-regular basis.

Will you be only guarding the place after work hours? If so, make sure none of the lightbulbs get burnt out, especially in any lights visible from the outside. Darkness makes people more likely to break in.

My dad used to have problems with people smashing bricks through his glass storefront. All he had to do was put up a sign on the door before he left every night that said, "Smile, you are being video taped". He didn't buy any video cameras, just that sign.

Just a few tips. :)

Incompetent
2003-08-05, 01:01 PM
I would take it, I have to agree with the get the biggest gun possible sentiment, being outgunned is a bad thing. You might want to spend more time on the shooting range then you do now though, and always wear your kevlar on the job. I'd be more inclined if there were a few other guards as well, working the night shift alone can wear away on some people, and even if your not you'll probably be better off with them around.

Spider
2003-08-05, 01:03 PM
After and within work hours... depends when they want me as I alternate with another guard who they wanna hire too (I will probly refer my friend)

But it's mostly night time guarding...

and good idea about the cop thing I have a couple of friend in the force maybe I could get them to visit from time to time...


edit: for the shooting range thing :p I already do spend up to 5 hours a week in there...

Maybe I could get the gun in my uncles living room a good old shotgun... problem is if I damage the goods I'm in deep shit (if you think about it)

So... maybe i'll try to get that magnum when I get my check from my pension....

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 01:07 PM
Another thing, make sure where ver you are stationed at is pretty dark. It is much harder to see from a well light area to a dark area and much easier to see from a dark area to a bright one. Like someone else suggested, visit the shooting range, get a good accuracy with whatever gun you are going to use (if you must use the 9). Thats about it.... Oh yeah, one last tip, don't get shot. ;)

Spider
2003-08-05, 01:09 PM
:lol: good idea but I think i'll scare people off with PS playing on surround sound :rofl:

Maybe I could scare people if I mounted a .50 cal on my hummer :o :lol:

But seriously I think I'll be taking the job...

Daeda1us
2003-08-05, 01:17 PM
I'm guessing the reason why you can't use the Colt .45 is because its single action only.

If you love the grip of the m1911 like I do, you might want to check out the CZ40. CZ is a czech company that makes simple, rugged, and dependible firearms (I'm on my second). The CZ40's grip is based off the m1911's but is a bit fatter. Its double action/single action and it has a safety. Therefore it should be allowed. I believe it has a capacity of 12+1 and it's .40 cal. 40 cal is touted to be the best manstopper out there (yes, bigger isn't always better). I'd shy away from any revolver or magnum because you'll be limited in how much ammo you can carry.

Down here in Virginia I saw them selling new for anywhere between $280 and $400. I plan to grab one when money allows.

Check them out : http://www.cz-usa.com/_p/pdt.php?id=17

Spider
2003-08-05, 01:31 PM
I'll look into it, thansk for the tips.

firecrackerNC
2003-08-05, 01:31 PM
Hell yea dude id take it in a heartbeat,you get a gun,kickass pay,you can play games all night,and theres the thrill if someone does break in,hell man thats one hell of a job

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Daeda1us
I'm guessing the reason why you can't use the Colt .45 is because its single action only.

If you love the grip of the m1911 like I do, you might want to check out the CZ40. CZ is a czech company that makes simple, rugged, and dependible firearms (I'm on my second). The CZ40's grip is based off the m1911's but is a bit fatter. Its double action/single action and it has a safety. Therefore it should be allowed. I believe it has a capacity of 12+1 and it's .40 cal. 40 cal is touted to be the best manstopper out there (yes, bigger isn't always better). I'd shy away from any revolver or magnum because you'll be limited in how much ammo you can carry.

Down here in Virginia I saw them selling new for anywhere between $280 and $400. I plan to grab one when money allows.

Check them out : http://www.cz-usa.com/_p/pdt.php?id=17 That looks like a nice gun. Can't wait till I turn 21 and can technically own one. Right now I have bought a couple as... errr... presents for my dad which he lets me use and he doesn't use. Gotta love Texas, gonna get my concealed carry liccense also.

Sputty
2003-08-05, 02:01 PM
I'd take it. Get a Chaingun first. Not the crappy PS one, a real one.

Incompetent
2003-08-05, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by firecrackerNC
Hell yea dude id take it in a heartbeat,you get a gun,kickass pay,you can play games all night,and theres the thrill if someone does break in,hell man thats one hell of a job That sort of attitude is a great way to put someone in a bodybag, namely yourself.

Sputty
2003-08-05, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Incompetent
That sort of attitude is a great way to put someone in a bodybag, namely yourself.
I'd like to see it. If I was the one that put him in the body bag. And if I got to feast on his flesh

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by Incompetent
That sort of attitude is a great way to put someone in a bodybag, namely yourself. Indeed. Anybody exited about being in a job with the danger of being shot has obviously never seen what guns are capable of.

Spider
2003-08-05, 02:28 PM
They are right... nothing exciting about getting shot :ugh:

When the bullet doesnt come out they have to make an opening of about 4 inches and use their kinda tweasers to get in there and remove the bullet.

Then comes the desinfectant and the sewing you back up... Lemme tell you it hurts like hell when your not druged up :ugh:

Lexington_Steele
2003-08-05, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
I would take it. I would also get a better gun. Most security guards get really crappy 9 mills. Get yourself a 45 or a 44, they are much better guns in my opinion. After that, its up to you. :D

A 9mil is just fine as long as you use hollow point ammo.

The thing is you would also want a secondary weapon (like a small concealable revolver) in case you get a double load or a squib.

I would say take the job. 200 grand is alot of money.

Kaltagesta
2003-08-05, 02:49 PM
does it really matter what kinda gun? if you shoot them in the leg, they arent going to get that far, or the leats iot wil ldo is slow them down, so you can cap 'em again, right?

Squeeky
2003-08-05, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Sputty
I'd take it. Get a Chaingun first. Not the crappy PS one, a real one.


I concur......

Spider
2003-08-05, 02:56 PM
Well thanks for convincing me guys :D I took it.

Called them 5 minutes ago while posting crap on these boards and tadam! I start in 2 days! No training necessary they will show me the basics on the field and I'll get a small training session with the head of security a some big agency by the end of the week!

WEEE!!

I'll post some things about what I see in there :p


(edit was for some minor typos)

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
does it really matter what kinda gun? if you shoot them in the leg, they arent going to get that far, or the leats iot wil ldo is slow them down, so you can cap 'em again, right? In most situations, probably not. It is more an issue of what you can shoot best with. However there is situations where you would want a bigger gun. Can't really think of why you would want a smaller one, unless you shoot better wtih it.

WickedDeus
2003-08-05, 03:00 PM
Do they have another opening? I'll move to Canada for 200 large(thats still a good deal of money for sitting on your ass even in the queen's money).

Sputty
2003-08-05, 03:01 PM
I live in Canada. I want that job if there's a position for someone else.

Lexington_Steele
2003-08-05, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
does it really matter what kinda gun? if you shoot them in the leg, they arent going to get that far, or the leats iot wil ldo is slow them down, so you can cap 'em again, right?

The larger the wound, the faster they be incapacitated or pass out from blood loss. The faster they are incapacitated, the less opportunity they have to shoot you. However you might not like the larger kick from a larger caliber gun and might find it harder to get second well aimed shots off quickly. You also want a gun that is reliable. Gun selection is definately important.

If you are using a 9mm or smaller for defense, hollowpoints are a must.

BTW, don't aim for the legs. A leg is a thin target. You aim for the chest because it is the largest target. If they are wearing Kevlar you aim for the hips. It is not that easy to hit a moving target (or anything for that matter) when you are in the heat of battle.

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:06 PM
Sputty... you have to pass a physical test bud :( and you have to move in ottawa. (I live in outaouais wich is about 20 minute from ottawa)

So unless you can run five miles and have your gun license I doubt you can :(

Sputty
2003-08-05, 03:07 PM
Nope, I can hardly run 100M. I probably can't actually

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:12 PM
:lol: :ugh:

Get in shape man :ugh: or work for the post office :lol: they pay well to do nothing :p

Hamma
2003-08-05, 03:13 PM
I would get the job.

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
I would get the job.

But.... but... your unemployed Hamma.... it doesnt count :sniffle:

Zodiac
2003-08-05, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by firecrackerNC
Hell yea dude id take it in a heartbeat,you get a gun,kickass pay,you can play games all night,and theres the thrill if someone does break in,hell man thats one hell of a job

i wouldnt have worded it the same but :thumbsup:

Hamma
2003-08-05, 03:19 PM
Just because I dont have a job doesent mean I can't say anything about jobs :confused:

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:19 PM
Your right I'm sorry! :love: you hamma! :lol:

WickedDeus
2003-08-05, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Spider
Sputty... you have to pass a physical test bud :( and you have to move in ottawa. (I live in outaouais wich is about 20 minute from ottawa)

So unless you can run five miles and have your gun license I doubt you can :(

Does that mean that they have an opening?

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:33 PM
errr yea...

If you pass the above... and

1) 18 years of age
2) Live in canada (citizenship too)
3) Have your gun permit

You got that?



Anyhow I'll probly refer my friend he's in the police academy and he can't pass the tests for shit so he's trying to find a job in the same domain...

Sputty
2003-08-05, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Spider
Anyhow I'll probly refer my friend he's in the police academy and he can't pass the tests for shit so he's trying to find a job in the same domain...

Legal murder?

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Sputty
Legal murder? No, gun toting authority type. At least this job is better then mall or parking lot cop. Those guys don't even have guns. :D

Spider
2003-08-05, 03:35 PM
Hmmm come to think of it... I never thought of becoming a hitman :brow: my trademark would be EATING THEIR BABIES!!!!

Zodiac
2003-08-05, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Spider
Hmmm come to think of it... I never thought of becoming a hitman :brow: my trademark would be EATING THEIR BABIES!!!!

:rock:

Sputty
2003-08-05, 03:47 PM
I am the baby eater/kitten lover at PSU, so die!

WickedDeus
2003-08-05, 03:48 PM
Originally posted by Spider
errr yea...

If you pass the above... and

1) 18 years of age
2) Live in canada (citizenship too)
3) Have your gun permit

You got that?



Anyhow I'll probly refer my friend he's in the police academy and he can't pass the tests for shit so he's trying to find a job in the same domain...

1)Yes
2)Shit no
3)Not a Canadian one.

I guess I'm fucked out of luck.:(

Navaron
2003-08-05, 05:30 PM
Get a H&K .40. Then send me an application. Thanks.

GonePostal
2003-08-05, 05:34 PM
take the job


get a magnum 357 though very reliable guns, but there like a small cannon


and you wont need more than 1 shot if ya hit him anywhere he's hittin the ground

TheRegurgitator
2003-08-05, 06:07 PM
get wireless keyboard and mouse so that if someone does break in u can be in the dark while ur playing so they dont see you :)

Sputty
2003-08-05, 06:15 PM
...What about the monitor?

MilitantB0B
2003-08-05, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by GonePostal
take the job


get a magnum 357 though very reliable guns, but there like a small cannon


and you wont need more than 1 shot if ya hit him anywhere he's hittin the ground He doesn't really need a hand cannon, just a reliable gun he can shoot good with. Too bad they won't let you use a shotgun, you don't even really have to aim to much with one of them. Just point, shoot, ground beef. That would screw up the decour and stuff though.

Terran Sniper
2003-08-05, 11:35 PM
I say take it. $200 grand a year for sitting on your ass and playin games? No brainer! Carryin a gun and wearin Kevlar are only bonuses! If somethin happens while you're playin PS, recall to sanctuary and check it out! I cant believe you wasted forum space for that dumb question!

Bighoss
2003-08-06, 12:43 AM
screw defending the place with guns... just set up a Patriot Missile Battery here and there and I think people will just avoid the place all together.

TAKE THE JOB play PS just think of it this way... every time you kill somone in PS your getting cash for it like a bounty hunter.

Terran Sniper
2003-08-06, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
He doesn't really need a hand cannon, just a reliable gun he can shoot good with. Too bad they won't let you use a shotgun, you don't even really have to aim to much with one of them. Just point, shoot, ground beef. That would screw up the decour and stuff though. It would also screw up the computer if there's a gunfight close to it. then there would be no more PS to play.

Everay
2003-08-06, 12:53 AM
well, set up basic traps, like a string with cans attached to it, and place em by the doors, and at other places, so like theyll trip em, and you get a heads up warning, and dont play PS with headphones on, you wont be able to hear intruders

Spider
2003-08-06, 01:30 AM
Ok... let me be clear about one thing.... in the location I will big a big ass red light will light up if a window is breached or door opened by force etc.

With a very high pitched noise :O_O:

So I should know when they come in!

(oh and It doesnt sound high enough to ward em off thought just enough to wake me or make me go crazy, plus If I'm taking a wizz the damn alarm system will page me to go check it out so I wont miss it, I got all these details over the phone :O_O: )

Pendragon
2003-08-06, 04:51 AM
The specific gun is the least important aspect.

What ever gun you get, make sure it is reliable (minimum 200 rounds of your service ammo without any malfunctions - 1000 is better). Make sure you are familiar with your weapons manual of arms and make sure you know how to shoot it well, including weak handed and how to clear any stoppages you might encounter. You really should seek professional training.

Unfortunately, most people like to imagine that having a bigger or shinier or more expensive gun will compensate for poor training.

A gun is a tool, man fights with his mind. If you do not have the right training and mindset, it will not matter much which gun you have.

As long as your 9mm functions properly and you are very familiar with its operation, maintenence and stoppage drills, it should serve you well.

Now please tell me where you found a security job that pays 200k per year. Or did you mean 20k per year - that sounds more realistic.

firecrackerNC
2003-08-06, 08:30 AM
Yea im still a bit confused on how you get 200k a year,secruity jobs usally pay very little,200k sounds like an awful lot,you make as much money as the prez(least i think so)

Everay
2003-08-06, 09:31 AM
unless its really hazordous, i dont think so, and yes, 200k is as much as the prez gets, but if its canadian, i think its more like 175k american, or less

Lonehunter
2003-08-06, 11:42 AM
The gun you should have is a Dity Harry. If you've seen "The Movie" you know what I'm talking about.

"You gotta ask yourself one question. Do'ya feel lucky? Punk." - Dirty Harry

Spider
2003-08-06, 01:16 PM
Yes 200k it's a big chain of warehouse's. They can't get any security guards because of their high break-in record and injurie record.

So that makes the pay high, cause of hazard pay, and the perks good. Most of their employees are highly payed professionals... they have the cash to do it, go figure!

Not my fault the pres doesnt do much cash :lol:.

And remember its 200k canadian..... wich means about 2.00$ U.S :lol:

Lonehunter
2003-08-06, 02:32 PM
Where are you working? I mean is it a Pysciatric ward, prison what?

Edit: Nevermind :D

Edit2: A friend of mine used to be a security gaurd for a mental hospital. he would talk to the crazy people all night :D

Lexington_Steele
2003-08-06, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Lonehunter187
The gun you should have is a Dity Harry. If you've seen "The Movie" you know what I'm talking about.

"You gotta ask yourself one question. Do'ya feel lucky? Punk." - Dirty Harry

That was a .44 Magnum, I am not sure of the brand.

Lonehunter
2003-08-06, 05:14 PM
I know what it is, I love that gun. I wish I could mary it.

Daeda1us
2003-08-07, 11:36 AM
The .44 magnum is a pussy cat compared to some new designs.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/Products/Firearms/images/500_cal_compare.jpg

Which would you choose? ;)

Sputty
2003-08-07, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Daeda1us
The .44 magnum is a pussy cat compared to some new designs.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/Products/Firearms/images/500_cal_compare.jpg

Which would you choose? ;)
The pussy cat! For kittens are small and fun to squeeze