The Vanguard

[freakmja1212]

yes... the vanguard... probably the worst tank

however for the purpose of running people over i would give it a big ole A and a happy face sticker ( :) )

i had no idea it would be so effective for running over unsuspecting enemies... i mean yes i knew it was a tank... but people actually go into something akin to shock when they see a brick on wheels "zooming" towards them

and i know many TR and fellow NC players will agree it would be damned nice to give the VS and their goddamned magmowers a taste of their own medicine


GRAH!!!.... magmowers

[Ghost06]

The Vanguard SUCKS?!?! Blasted recruit...

[JF-Wolf]

Vangaurd>Magrider (in a one on one anyway)

[Ghost06]

Vanguard > anything that moves on the ground. Period.

[gonnagetyou]

I wouldn't say the Vanguard is the worst tank. The cannon on that thing hurts a lot. My poor little Lightning can only take one hit from it before I need to run, because a second hit will leave me in scraps. Of course running away before I get hit the first time is an even better tactic.

The Vanguard isn't as mobile as the Magrider, but it mows people down just as easily and with a good driver and gunner it's certainly something to respect.

[Casimir]

The only thing probbaly better than a vanguard would be a prowler. But still the vanguard looks cool is is just as good as a magriders for runnin over stuff

[JLeeAZN]

The Vanguard doesnt Suck!! A good vanguard pair can take out almost anything and stay alive. A Vanguard cannon is so much more powerful than the prowler, and the vanguard is the most effective tank at long range.

[Sputty]

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[Ghost06]

Go go gadget sputty!

The Prowler is gimped, btw. ;)

[Everay]

Originally posted by Sputty
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thats all that needs to be said

[Revolver]

This thread is done in by my ub3r-l337 avatar :twisted:. :nod:

Looking at the text in red is optional :rolleyes:

[freakmja1212]

jesus h christ what's with all the flames

fine i'll keep my comments to my self

[Everay]

becasue vanguard is a good machine, if you have a gunner that can hit anything without needing to aim with a shot your set, it just requires a good crew

[Ghost06]

One word of advice: learn the mob's opinion on things before posting ;)

[SandTrout]

Vangaurd the worst tank? Absolutely not. The only prblem with it is finding a good gunner, of which there are supriseingly few. Prowler is also a good tank if it has a good crew, but there are even fewer good crews for prowlers than there are for vangaurds it seems like.

Magmower is to be feared in open terrain, but a smart CE can take them out with mines on the fly(delpoying as the magrider is moveing around).

[Revolver]

Sand that only works if he's not after you. If he's straight for you you don't have enough time to deploy enough mines to kill him :(

[Setari]

vanguards scare me...then again any large vehicle which comes flying over the lip of a hill you were about to run down would scare me :P

oh and i saw a vanguard run over about 5 mines w/o dying....like, whoa

[Aegis]

All the assault tanks have the same armour AFAIK, but the Prowler is a bigger target and the Mag is slower so the VG seems most difficult to destroy. In a tank Vs Tank battle the Mag has the advantage due to its direct gun which has more chance of hitting if both tanks are moving. But get a reall good gunner and that 150mm will take out the MAG in about 3-4 shots. Prowlers are even easier, almost made for the VG, big target, no strafe, less firepower.

I have all three tanks on various servers but the fact the Van is so good is why my main character is NC. Yes, Magmowing through bases gets you more XP, but its not going to survive like a Van in open terrain because its so slow the AV guys can take it out before it has chance to retreat.

Cant see mich to recomend the prowler, MG is usually not manned as finding two gunners isnt easy, and when it is its not hugely effective. Then again why do the TR want the best vehicles? They have Strikers for enemy vehicles after all...

[DaCh3at]

i played on tr for a little bit and believe me strikers are not that good against any type of tank.... well unless they are already damaged or you got more that 3 packs of ammo which pretty much no one does

[Madcow]

Originally posted by DaCh3at
i played on tr for a little bit and believe me strikers are not that good against any type of tank.... well unless they are already damaged or you got more that 3 packs of ammo which pretty much no one does

3 packs of ammo is a start. 9 Strikers won't even make a tank turn and run sometimes, that's why I have a loadout with 15 strikers and a paltry few boxes of cycler ammo. The Striker is nice when you see them flying from multiple directions, if you're the unlucky guy who seems to be the only one shooting them you may as well resign yourself to not taking out your target if it's a large tank. I've unloaded a dozen into a Vanguard before it got out of view without taking it out.

[Happy lil Elf]

yes... the vanguard... probably the worst tank

Don't say that about my lady or I might just have to pimp slap yo' ass!

Anyways umm yeah so the Vanguard is not the worst tank by a long shot. Then again, assuming they have good crews, none of the tanks suck. Personally I do wish I could get my hands on Prowler's or Magriders more often, but really that's just because they're a joy to drive sometimes as something different :)

[Vis Armata]

Vanguards are great tanks...a good armor column of Vanguards is a great help on the battlefield. The power of the 150mm is undeniable, and although I wish for a flatter trajectory, a little practice is all that's needed to hit both infantry and armor. I've driven a Magrider on another server, and it is also great fun (strafing, a gun for the driver); it's no wonder the VS tank is so widely used. My former character drove a TR Prowler, and I thought it was effective - if you had two good gunners.

A little story: My outfit's armor squad was operating on Forseral, in the Ogma area. We were watching the TR Sanctuary warpgate for trouble, and trouble came, in the form of 6 Prowlers.:eek: I think we lost two out of our three tanks, with the third retreating. We did do some significant damage to them, but they really opened up on us. Prowlers can be fearsome too.

[Aegis]

Yeah, the prowler is good, not much in it, but its definitely the last of the three i would choose to drive.

[Queensidecastle]

Too the original posters credit however the Vanguard drives like a piece of shit. Any tankers from the other empires that halfway knows what they are doing eat Vanguards for breakfast, especially the Prowler. Fighting Vanguards is all about using the terrain to your advantage. If you cant find a terain advantage, Run and then flank him about a minute later

[Warborn]

Originally posted by Queensidecastle
Too the original posters credit however the Vanguard drives like a piece of shit. Any tankers from the other empires that halfway knows what they are doing eat Vanguards for breakfast, especially the Prowler. Fighting Vanguards is all about using the terrain to your advantage. If you cant find a terain advantage, Run and then flank him about a minute later

What do you do if the Vanguard has a gunner though?

[Ghost06]

You're smokin' something powerful to say the Vanguard drives like shit...

[Happy lil Elf]

No, the Vanguard does handle pretty badly compared to the other two tanks. Vanguards have a higher turn radius at moderate to high speeds than a Prowler. Vanguard does have better acceleration than the Prowler though, or at least that's what it seemed like last time I was in a Prowler. The Magrider handles like crap at first, but once you get used to it I think it by far has the best handling.

[Queensidecastle]

The vanguard's handleing is so shitty, its only usefull on flat terrain. The Prowler however is ausome on hills. Learn it, use it.

[NoSurrender]

the vangaurd is awesome i think the mag is highly underrated because with a good gunner u can own sooooo much with a mag cept with a semi decent van gunner its toast and the prowler doesnt really scare me because 99% of the time i fight it there are 1 or even no gunners and then it = phoenix and Falcon max Fodder

[STEALTHKILLER]

:vssucks: :trsucks: :ncrocks:
the vangaurd is a great tank my only problem is that the main gun has 2 long of a wait between shots.

[BigDickMccoy]

The Vanguard is a wicked tank. But if you can't drive/gun or the guy you with can't you are hard core screwed

[Cease]

They are all great tanks, but they all have their own personalities. The right crew will make any tank shine.

[Pilgrim]

Said it before... will say it again

The Van Rules anti vehicle, and holds it's own anti infantry.

The Prowler is the best Anti infantry (when not running them over)

The MAgrider is the best running over, also has the best chance at hitting due to dirrect fire weapons.

And all I do is Gun for a Van (most of the time) probably 1/2 my kills are with the 150 :)

ON a funny side note, we ran into 3 prowlers with a section of Vans (that's 2) they stood still and lobbed, we moved, and had better gunners... bye bye prowlers! :)

[Ghost06]

Lol, Vanguard is far better than the Prowler at killing infantry. Vanguard cannon is a one shot kill on anything less than a MAX suit (it even takes most of the MAX suits health along with it). The Prowler takes a good 2-3 shots to kill infantry, and that's on a close proximity hit, while the Vanguard's splash damage one shots infantry. The Magrider is more newbie gunner friendly, but once you get a competant Vanguard gunner vs. a competant Magrider gunner, I'd say the favor leans slighty towards the Vanguard.

[BigTexas]

Heh, just wanted to bump this back up because a friend of mine is the one who originally posted this noobed out thread.

Hey Mike, YOU SUCK!

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