Fighter Pilot [Archive] - PlanetSide Universe

MilitantB0B

2003-08-09, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by Doobz
letter of recommendation from a congressman, near perfect grades, absolutely no vision impairments, and absolutely perfect shape And they find enough people to fill the piloting ranks that qualify? Man, it is more rigerous then I thought. Does that include things like bomber pilots, transport planes, helecopter pilots etc. or just the people who fly the fast fighters?

Doobz

2003-08-09, 12:15 AM

i'm going by the navy carrier pilots

and yes, they only accept the absolute best of society

i believe they began accepting female applicants as well in the past few years

the letter of recommendation from the congressman is a HARD thing to get, probably one of the hardest things to accomplish on your way to fighter pilot-hood-dom-ness whatever

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by Doobz
letter of recommendation from a congressman, near perfect grades, absolutely no vision impairments, and absolutely perfect shape

Umm no. You need 20/20 or better vision, and you have to be in good shape, but they could give a shit less if you have a letter from a congressman. It has nothing to do with it. In fact, the last thing they want to deal with is some beaurocrat asshole watching them.

Most branches you'll need a 4 year degree, because you have to be an officer to fly. The army (Warrant officers program) you don't need to be an officer, but you'll also end up in a chopper most likely.

Going to an acadamey (any of them) and graduating in the top 2% is the only way to be gaurenteed a certain plane.

The marines are the only branch that gaurentee pilot's positions, however, they also expect more from their men.

You do not have to be short, however, you must be below 6' to fly fighters. You can be up to 6'5 and fly bombers or support aircraft.

You get your plane based on your skills in testing. If you suck you get a C5. If you're great you get an F22.

If you have more specific questions let me know, I'm sure I can answer most all of them. I'm a pilot now, and next summer I leave for Marine Basic to enter the PLC program, where upon graduation I'll be a 2lt, then go off to TBS for 6 months, then down for 2 years of flight training.

You're also locked in for at least 8 years.

Doobz

2003-08-09, 12:32 AM

are you sure about that congressman thing? i'm almost certain that one is needed, at least without a degree

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 12:35 AM

:insert obligitory "what Nav said" emote here:

Good luck Nav. I'll rest better in the upcoming years knowing that a member of {BOHICA} is protecting our country....

"OH GOD, what did I just say? Is it possible? Christ, I'm scared."

Next thing you know, California will elect a porn-star washout as govenor....

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Doobz
are you sure about that congressman thing? i'm almost certain that one is needed, at least without a degree

Yeah, like I was saying, you need a degree for every branch but the army.

You're probably thinking of how to get into West Point, Annapolis, or the Airforce Acadamy, where you need to be nominated by a congressman. Which, if you get in the top 2% at any of those places you're then gaurenteed any plane you want.

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 12:36 AM

Doobz,

You need a letter from your congressman if you want to go into the respective Academy.

Sorry for the double post....

MilitantB0B

2003-08-09, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
Which, if you get in the top 2% at any of those places you're then gaurenteed any plane you want. Air force one?

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by Sentrosi
[BGood luck Nav. I'll rest better in the upcoming years knowing that a member of {BOHICA} is protecting our country....
[/B]

Koldfusion already is, and Denali will be going also. We back up what we believe in all walks of life, including "real" or whatever it's called ;).

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Air force one?

At any of the 3 acadamy's. It's a motivational thing. Everyone wants to be in a Raptor, so you study harder so you can.

MilitantB0B

2003-08-09, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
At any of the 3 acadamy's. It's a motivational thing. Everyone wants to be in a Raptor, so you study harder so you can. But... I just wanted to be the prez's limmo driver. :(

:D

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 12:45 AM

Bah, if I had my choice I'd take the ole' Warthog any day.

I :love: that little ugly stepchild of the airforce. I wish they had a good a-10 simulator out.

Lexington_Steele

2003-08-09, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
But... I just wanted to be the prez's limmo driver. :(

:D

Then you have to be able to pull a bootleg Uturn in a strech limmo. :D

Doobz

2003-08-09, 12:48 AM

if you want a good a-10 sim, wait till Lock On: Modern Air Combat comes out in a little bit

MilitantB0B

2003-08-09, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
Then you have to be able to pull a bootleg Uturn in a strech limmo. :D Noooo, air limmo. You know, Air Force one?

Actually, if I had to pilot anything, I think I would want to pilot a helicopter, very cool contraptions if I do say so myself.

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
Then you have to be able to pull a bootleg Uturn in a strech limmo. :D
That weighs 16 tons :P

The A-10 is my dream fighter, although, I'd love to get to pilot a AC130 spectre, and know I was personally responsable for that much death and destruction. I definately wouldn't mind paying taxes so much then :P.

Navaron

2003-08-09, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Noooo, air limmo. You know, Air Force one?

Actually, if I had to pilot anything, I think I would want to pilot a helicopter, very cool contraptions if I do say so myself.

As much as I despise choppers, I am going to try and score as high as possible to get a shot at Marine One. How fucking bad ass would it be to fly into the White House every morning?

I was at Offut on 9/11 and saw AF1 with Bush and the gang on board. I'll never forget it. Or his escort. Those were American badasses. Talk about on top of their game.

EineBeBoP

2003-08-09, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Actually, if I had to pilot anything, I think I would want to pilot a helicopter, very cool contraptions if I do say so myself.
:thumbsup:

i wanna fly a black hawk someday. Do incertion or recon missions. FUn stuff.
You wouldnt happen to know what i'd need to get there wouldya nav?

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 01:00 AM

Blackhawks are run by the Army mostly. Get into the Warrant Officer program and you'll be on your way.

Go Army (http://www.goarmy.com)

Navaron

2003-08-09, 01:09 AM

If you want to fly choppers at all, and don't have a degree go Army. If you want to fly choppers and fuck up untold amounts of people - go marines (of course, they're trying to fuck you up too). If I wanted to fly choppers, I'd go army. They've got the best and the most. If you want to ferry people around, go navy or marines.

EineBeBoP

2003-08-09, 01:14 AM

not airforce? id kinda think airforce, seeing as how theyre the AIR force ;)

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 01:15 AM

We also rescue ppl Nav.....

Was going to go be a SAR swimmer, but those guys were crazy. I'd call them marines except they can swim.

This is the Toasted Frogs truth: When I was in AirCrew School our class had 15 marines. Not a single one of them were present when I graduated. They couldn't pass their swim quals.

MilitantB0B

2003-08-09, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
If you want to fly choppers at all, and don't have a degree go Army. If you want to fly choppers and fuck up untold amounts of people - go marines (of course, they're trying to fuck you up too). If I wanted to fly choppers, I'd go army. They've got the best and the most. If you want to ferry people around, go navy or marines. My principal did the ferrying around. Very dangerous and you have no teeth! (expect the marines you are carrying) No thanks.

Jaged

2003-08-09, 01:33 AM

Are you shure about that 6 footer rule on fighter pilots, Nav? Why have a rule like that? I am only 14 and I am already 6 foot. I had better hope I stop growing soon. What do they do with people who are exactly 6 feet tall?

Navaron

2003-08-09, 01:45 AM

Ahh, I forgot you were a Navy man. Yeah, SAR is for crazy, ballsy people. Those guys are real heroes, and so are the pilots. If you've got the sack for it, do it man.

"Not a single one of them were present when I graduated. They couldn't pass their swim quals."

I believe it.

"Are you shure about that 6 footer rule on fighter pilots, Nav? Why have a rule like that?"

99%. You may want to call a recruiter and ask, but I'm pretty certain. What it has to do is with the cardiac system and blood flow under high g, high stress environments. If you're really tall, there's a lot more blood escaping your torso, but if you're short, it's staying in the torso better, and gets back to the heart and head quicker. Women have better bodies to be fighter pilots than do men. THat's why men have to be in such great shape.

Sentrosi

2003-08-09, 01:46 AM

Well, I had the chance to sit in the #6 Blue Angels F-18 Hornet my last year in the Navy. I was 6'3" and I barely fit inside the aircraft. The Blue Angels fly with virtually no avionics on board; they rip out all the fire control radar and associated hardware too. They only have basic Nav and Radio to get from Point A to B. The height rule is only for fighters. You can be 6'5" and still be a pilot. The military still needs transports and support planes as well. There is no shame in not being a fighter jock. Most ppl wash out of ACM training anyway.

Jaged

2003-08-09, 01:51 AM

I just wanted to blow some shit up and go really fast. ;)

Revenant

2003-08-09, 01:51 AM

Speaking of A-10's....
I was playing a LAN game of Janes Fighters Anthology with my brother a number of years ago. And he'd always whoop my ass with F-22's. Like 3 games in a row.
So I took him on with the A-10's. 10 on 10.

Obliterated him :D

Smaug

2003-08-09, 01:51 AM

If I would like to fly anything it would be a C-5 or C-17. Just cuz I'm weird like that.

EineBeBoP

2003-08-09, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Smaug
If I would like to fly anything it would be a C-5 or C-17. Just cuz I'm weird like that.

:thumbsup:

Navaron

2003-08-09, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Smaug
If I would like to fly anything it would be a C-5 or C-17. Just cuz I'm weird like that.

Nothing weird about it at all. My dream plane is a AC130. Big, slow, and gorgeous.

http://exploze.wz.cz/awar/letouny/ac130/02_ac130.jpg

Smaug

2003-08-09, 02:02 AM

Yeah just saying some of the people might find it weird cuz everyone wants to be a fighter pilot. I knew a few years ago I wouldn't settle for anything below the Raptor :D. But now I'm beginning to enjoy living more and more :P so I'd rather stay out of harms way. Plus I still get to be important, shipping M1s and stuff. Fun.

Doobz

2003-08-09, 07:04 AM

my geometry teacher last year was a recently retired 160th SOAR blackhawk pilot, best damn chopper pilots in the world, Nightstalkers, those guys can get you through any national boarder, frontline, whatever without raising a single suspicion that they're there, truly talented pilots

Revolver

2003-08-09, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by Doobz
my geometry teacher last year was a recently retired 160th SOAR blackhawk pilot, best damn chopper pilots in the world, Nightstalkers, those guys can get you through any national boarder, frontline, whatever without raising a single suspicion that they're there, truly talented pilots Bah f*ck that...KAMIKAZE!!!1:D

//edit
And A-10's...oldies but goodies...I love em...they look sechsay

Doobz

2003-08-09, 06:53 PM

lol, wtf?

eXoSloth

2003-08-09, 09:58 PM

Damn, I'm 13 and I am around 5 foot 9, which probably means I will be well over 6 foot. Plus I think I am going to need to get glasses soon. Even if I was under six foot and had 20/20 vision I prob. wouldn't fly a fighter, most badass thing in the world but I value my life.

GonePostal

2003-08-09, 10:08 PM

whats the SAR swimmer?

and what does SAR stand for?

Everay

2003-08-09, 10:12 PM

if i could fly a plane, which i cant, ( bad vision ) it would be a A10, nothing is mor4e bueatiful than that plane, with that HUGE gatling gun in the cemter, 1 shell from that cannon can take out a tank, as long as you hit in the crew compartment

Navaron

2003-08-09, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by GonePostal
whats the SAR swimmer?

and what does SAR stand for?

Search and Rescue. Like if you fall off of a ship, or eject from a plane, a chopper goes out, and when they find you, these guys jump out of the chopper and drag your ass up.

GonePostal

2003-08-09, 10:26 PM

o ok

what bout navy seal what does that take to qualify

Doobz

2003-08-09, 11:16 PM

more endurance than i care to think about

Smaug

2003-08-09, 11:44 PM

Lol yeah did you guys ever see those shows on discovery channel about navy seal training? Those guys are insane.

Navaron

2003-08-09, 11:47 PM

Gigantic fucking balls.

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 12:04 AM

ye but what are some of the stuff you have to do

ive heard that to complete the training you have to let your team mates drown you then bring you back which is a bit much but that would be insane to be a seal

Navaron

2003-08-10, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by GonePostal
ye but what are some of the stuff you have to do

ive heard that to complete the training you have to let your team mates drown you then bring you back which is a bit much but that would be insane to be a seal

Umm, no. Try google.

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 12:40 AM

Squick

2003-08-10, 12:44 AM

I think thats how it is Navaron... And for the Rangers, they throw everyone that made it to the last day into a big pit with huge spears, and the the single person that comes out alive with the most human hearts on his spear becomes a Ranger.

:p

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 12:51 AM

lol ok shut up

its just what i heard i dunno and im way to lazy to look on the internet cuz i dont care enough

WritheNC

2003-08-10, 12:51 AM

ParadoxSix

2003-08-10, 08:22 AM

This page should show you a little bit about Navy SEAL training:
http://www.navyseals.com/community/navyseals/training_tadpoles.cfm

Some of the stuff I've read about SEAL training:
5.5 mile swim

14 mile run

Have to be able to take your equipment off underwater, and then put it back on again. This basically requires holding your breath for around five minutes, all while putting on a lot of swim gear.

Hell week, a week of extreme physical training where you only get at the most 2 hours or so of sleep. They let you sleep in a pit, but while you're supposed to be sleeping there's machine gun fire, and the sound of grenades going off around you, getting a lot of sleep isn't likely.

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 11:31 AM

read that

and i was kinda right, you have to do a under water swim with your hands tied and your ankles tied together, they call it drown proofing, and if you do pass out then they have to revive you.

Kaltagesta

2003-08-10, 11:39 AM

you guys hered of the bleep test?

we do it here in england at school, in PE. basically, they set up a cassette in the gym and you have run on the beep, to the other side of the hall, and get there before the beep, then immediately turn round and go back before yet another beep. This goes on for ages, satarted at walking pace, but builds up and builds up until you can barely make it even if you were sprinting from fresh, but seein gas how you have been running backwards and forwards for 20 minutes already - its hard.

i'm reasonably fit and i can get 11. My friend who runs cross country for the borough can get 15 [we are both 15 years old] fat kids get like 6. and to get into the SAS? You have to get 22. i mean, thats like an hour of running, and by the end, you are running VERY fast.

i know that the training may be more for a mental thing, and just to weed out the weaklings, but i wonder how neccessary it is, in practical terms, to be able to swim 5.5 miles? i mean, are you liekl;y to use that in the field?

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 11:55 AM

yes, and no

you might use it in the field but its also so that you know that you can push yourself that hard. its like a mental thing

Kaltagesta

2003-08-10, 11:56 AM

wow. this is one of the final stages of SAS application: [a real quote from a book]

"The third week included a fully equipped run up and down the steep slopes of Pen-y-Fan three times in under 8 hours............ each day involved not less than 15 hours of marching so sprains and blisters took a heavy toll.
Finally, less than 30 applicants survived the final test known as Long Drag.
This was 45 mile cross country bash carrying a 50 pound Bergen (checked without warning by the staff) 12 pound belt kit and 18 pound rifle without a sling. The exercise is the equivalent of 3 consecutive marathons when steep terrain and the burdens are considered. If you take over 20 hours to finish you are failed. And sometimes, for no given reason, some of those who succeed are failed anyway" Ran Fiennes, from "Living Dangerously".

Lexington_Steele

2003-08-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
If you take over 20 hours to finish you are failed. And sometimes, for no given reason, some of those who succeed are failed anyway" Ran Fiennes, from "Living Dangerously".

Is it just me, or is it retarded to fail people who pass a crazy ass test for no reason.

GonePostal

2003-08-10, 01:53 PM

no its retarded

Happy lil Elf

2003-08-11, 01:07 PM

SEAL training is.....well I was going to say hard but hard doesn't really describe it accurately. Impossible for the vast majority of the population probably comes closer. As for the 5.5 mile swim no you're not likely to make use of it, unless something goes wrong in which case your life could depend on it.

If I personally could do anything in the military I think it'd be a tank commander.

Lonehunter

2003-08-11, 01:26 PM

Coming soon...

Lonehunter187, joins the Marines.

Edit: Friend of mine is going to get training for a Medic in the SEALSs.

Revenant

2003-08-11, 01:29 PM

I don't remember what it was for... I think maybe the marines, and I don't quite remember where I saw it.... I think maybe one of those "real tv" things.

But it was showing as a final test, you have to stand against a wall while another guy takes this gold eagle wings pin (except it has a just under an inch spike on the back), and drive it into the guy chest bone.
I ain't making this up either :eek:

Or maybe it wasn't an American thing....

Lexington_Steele

2003-08-11, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Revenant
I don't remember what it was for... I think maybe the marines, and I don't quite remember where I saw it.... I think maybe one of those "real tv" things.

But it was showing as a final test, you have to stand against a wall while another guy takes this gold eagle wings pin (except it has a just under an inch spike on the back), and drive it into the guy chest bone.
I ain't making this up either :eek:

Or maybe it wasn't an American thing....

Sounds like somehting a Marine would do. :P

Lonehunter

2003-08-11, 01:41 PM

Sounds like something a dumb recruit would do :rolleyes: One thing I'm gonna have to do is stand in a gas chamber and take my mask off, that's gonna suck. :(

Smaug

2003-08-11, 06:27 PM