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Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 01:08 PM
I just got it last night and I love it. My record is 12 aircraft before I die. 9 Reavers, 2 skeeters, and 1 Gal. It's pretty decent on vehicles too. ONE thing wrong with it. If an enemy gets close to you, he could knife you to death beouse it sucks against infantry at CLOSE range. Medium to Long range it's ok. My point is, how many of you have tried it, and how many of you like it?

ChewyLSB
2003-08-11, 01:16 PM
I highly doubt someone could knife you to death in a MAX. For one thing, knives don't do any damage for a long time against MAX's, it takes a VERY high number of swings to do it (Like how the Beamer's primary fire doesnt do damage to MAX's).

Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 01:49 PM
In a Burster MAX, I could unload a whole clip at somebody 2 feet in front of me and not scratch them. The Burster MAX is NO good against short range infantry, everything else it's pretty good at. Put it this way. A cloaker with a Beamer could take me out with full health if he was standing right in front of me. Seriously.

ChewyLSB
2003-08-11, 01:51 PM
Well then, don't ask me, I've never been a big fan of MAX's.

Queensidecastle
2003-08-11, 02:46 PM
Yeah in a Burster you just have to go into run mode if infantry gets on you. I love this MAX, but like the Dual Cycler better. You really can bring down aircraft extremely fast when locked down

Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Queensidecastle
Yeah in a Burster you just have to go into run mode if infantry gets on you. I love this MAX, but like the Dual Cycler better. You really can bring down aircraft extremely fast when locked down

You should try the Burster, seriously. Try it one day.

NecroChu
2003-08-11, 03:05 PM
Burster Max is my favorite max armor right now. I used to do the pounder thing but that turned out to be a grief magnet for me no matter how careful i was with it. Not only do I use it to bring down aircraft (duh) but also when attacking a base. I find it cool that I can hit defenders on the walls with the flak bursts. Last night i was almost down to 50% armor against a guy with suppressor lol It does suck at close range.

gonnagetyou
2003-08-11, 03:38 PM
I love the Burster MAX. Like you said it doesn't do anything against infantry up close, but against aircraft it is my favorite AA MAX.

I once had a NC Cloaker jump me while I was sitting on a wall. He ran out of ammo dancing around me and then proceeded to try and knife me to death. The knife did absolutely nothing against me and I couldn't hurt him. We sat there for two minutes facing each other trading blows (actually it was more like tickling each other). Once we were tired of staring at each other we both called it a draw and went seperate ways.:D

Yogi
2003-08-11, 04:42 PM
The burster would be great with some added range.

Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Yogi
The burster would be great with some added range.

:huh: It has great range, and the extra zoom is an added plus.

Yogi
2003-08-11, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Lonehunter187
:huh: It has great range, and the extra zoom is an added plus.

It still can't reach a vehicle at max altitude. That's what I mean. An AA MAX should be able to hit the whole sky above it.

Katanaboy
2003-08-11, 05:02 PM
you should try the starfire...

Yogi
2003-08-11, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Katanaboy
you should try the starfire...

lol, yeah Vanu are worse off right now. But my point still stands ;)

Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Yogi
It still can't reach a vehicle at max altitude. That's what I mean. An AA MAX should be able to hit the whole sky above it.

I can't even see that high, the vehicles just faid out.

Queensidecastle
2003-08-11, 06:03 PM
"You should try the Burster, seriously. Try it one day"

You are being funny right? I have a character with that cert and I enjoy it very much

Doppler
2003-08-11, 06:10 PM
ONE thing wrong with it. If an enemy gets close to you, he could knife you to death beouse it sucks against infantry at CLOSE range.

Maybe it's making up for exceptional amount of assbeating dished out by your pounder against infantry, vehicles, and low flying aircraft? God you people wnat everything you wanna complain about MAX's try playing NC for a while the only max we have that isnt retarted is our AA max. Well i shouldnt say retarted, just our max's are kinda the base line that all others are judged against, the Vanu max's about the same but their special ability is so much better, and the TR special ability just owns all.

Oh yay I get a shield, that degrades while being used, wont stop a complete striker missile, and I cant fight while using it, great it protects me while i'm reloading, provided the enemy max's and infantry havnt already killed me, and pisse don my corpse.

Our scatter cannon max does laughable damage requiring what, four shots to kill an agile, where as the TR pounder kills multiple agiles in two, around corners no less And the range/damage on our AV max straight up sucks.

Smaug
2003-08-11, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Yogi
It still can't reach a vehicle at max altitude. That's what I mean. An AA MAX should be able to hit the whole sky above it.
I hate to break it to you guys, but none of the AA maxes can hit aircraft at highest altitude. No not even the almighty sparrow, believe me I have that cert.

Lonehunter
2003-08-11, 06:45 PM
Actually ALL AA weapons and MAXs can hit aircraft at the flight ceiling, On Ceryshen :D

BigTexas
2003-08-11, 06:59 PM
I have the Sparrow MAX cert (and I think everyone playing NC should, its amazing for 2 certs) and I have to agree with you about the shield being absolutely horrible. I wish people would stop saying it though, most people dont know exactly how much damage the shield can take, including a lot of NC, its more intmidating than anything else.

Although it cant absorb the full brunt of a Striker missle, its does absorb a large portion of the damage, and if you used at the right time the shield can save your life, giving you a chance to run and get repairs. Its nothing amazing, but it helps.

Plus, the shield works well protecting you in run mode, whether saving you from those damned land mines or deflecting the Phalanx turrets while you rush into the enemy base.

SandTrout
2003-08-12, 04:00 AM
Sparrow does not get nearly as many kills against aircraft as either the burster or the starfire, but it's better than a Gauss with AP rounds.

Burster is lunchmeat for me, no matter which setup I'm in. You dont want the bastage running away from you, get surge, its one of the most useful(and underused) implants you can get.

I've played all the NC MAXes, and I can tell you the Scattercannon is a good MAX if used properly. Nothing compared to the pounder against infantry, but it does its job. Its 2 shots(full on) to kill an agile, 3 for reinforced. increase shot count for misses and partial hits. It will shread just about any other MAX except the DC, but you can leave that one to the infantry(DC is not as effective against infantry if you know how to deal with it).

Smaug
2003-08-12, 06:07 AM
Nah man when I had the scatcannon I would own DCes too. That thing is brutal. Within 5 minutes of picking up the cert my first time I downed a lib that was hovering low and like 3 maxes, all TR.

Madcow
2003-08-12, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by SandTrout
Sparrow does not get nearly as many kills against aircraft as either the burster or the starfire

Bwahahahahahaha!

noxious
2003-08-12, 06:12 PM
I disagree with the guy who says NC maxes suck. Due to the lack of TR AV maxes, you can pretty much kill every infantry and TRMAX that you come across with the NC AVmax. When you do come across a TR AV max, it's anyones game. And the VS maxes just die, poor things. I like the scatter cannon as well, though it's no where near as versatile as the AV max. I don't see why you think the NC has such poor maxes, I'd take the NC AV max over any other max in the game.

Fire_Monkey
2003-08-13, 11:37 PM
It's good, but to me not worth loosing the ability to repair armor, hack, heal, or jump. When you can always pick up a striker, but yes the burster is a very good versatile MAX, you can pick up quite a few reaver kills with a DC too.