*feels weird*

[Spider]

Well as you all know... I have the security job... it hasnt been a week yet and I already got two break-ins...

First one wasnt bad the guy tried to run but I caught him threw him down and handcuffed him. He was then arrested.

Second one... :ugh: I was alone last night and I couldnt play planetside or connect to the web (because the connection was down for some reason). I heard a truck pull up so I got up, and went for the main warehouse door to check it out. The main light were out like each night only leaving 1/10 of them on to save power. So I was standing on the catwalk and nothing was happening till a minute later the truck crashed thru the door.

At this point needless to say I was startled and pulled my gun out and made my way down... two guy with masks (those winter thingies whats the name in english god damnit) both were armed.

I followed the ''procedure''. I got up pointed my gun and told them to drop their weapons, kick them towards me and then lay face down on the ground with their arms behind their back.

They awnsered by shooting at me... the computer boxes served as cover... poor falcon northwest's. I waited till they stopped shooting to run to another piece of cover. I fired a total of 9 bullets at them... one got hit in the throat, the other got three bullets inside of him... but he was still more lucky then his friend, he got two of them in the left arm and one in the leg. The rest missed. I then rushed up to them kicked the weapons out of their reach and waited. I checked the time, 3 minute had gone by but it seemed like a fucking eternity my heart was pounding and my hand were shaking but I was still making sure they wouldnt get up, pointing my weapon at them.

Because of the truck crashing thru the silent alarm had engaged... the police arrived in 15 minutes. I was taken in for some questioning and I was released shortly after.


Now let's say I am still feeling weird about this.. I was informed this morning that one of them passed away and the other is in the hospital and will be taken to trial after his recovery.

[Lonehunter]

So.. what exactly are you feeling wierd about?

Edit: Where do you work again?

[Sputty]

:ugh: That sucks. Well, at least you're ok yourself

[Spider]

Originally posted by Lonehunter187
So.. what exactly are you feeling wierd about?

Edit: Where do you work again?

I work as security in a computer parts and computer warehouse, Wich doubles as the presidents and his lackies office (of the company not canada)

And I'm feeling weird because I just killed a man...


Thanks sputty I do feel kinda lucky at the same time...

[Vick]

Not much to say, he would of done the same to you though.

:ugh:

At least your ok...

[Lonehunter]

Spider, they were trying to kill you. That doesn't make you want to retaliate in any way? It was either him or you. Now you know you can handle yourself in tough situations. Good job :thumbsup:

[Khronos]

wow...i probably couldn't have done anything like that in such situation..:cheers: to you man.

good thing you're alive...and like above, those guys woulda killed you if you hadnt reacted how you did.

i understand how you feel..bout killing some1...hopefully it'll pass, cause that job sounds like a bitch and you gotta do what you can to survive.


:thumbsup: and hopefully you won't experience any more breakins like that any time soon.

[GonePostal]

where did this all take place at?

[Spider]

Inside the warehouse itself. Ottawa, Canada. The news wasnt allowed on the site apparently the company has a deal with the police that controls the flow of information that will be released.

I may be bothered by the media at some point... but I don't have to awnser anything, right?


Thanks guys I guess your right... I feel I could of avoided killing the guy but It was him or me like you all said...

[GonePostal]

eh im kinda skeptical to believe the story but if its true, then you did the right thing.


p.s. only skeptical cuz this is the internet and i dont know you, not because i wanna be an asshole

[Spider]

I understand don't worry. Even my godfather had trouble beleiving me when I asked him to come and get me to drop me off at the warehouse so I could get my truck.

Damn police didnt trust me enough to get to the departement by myself.

[GonePostal]

police are assholes


but necessary in todays society

[NoSurrender]

oh wow... but atleast your alive...

[Indecisive]

Dude...awsome you are ok, i bet you pulled some sweet moves.

Omg i am complementing a canadian! a french candian! ah run!1


Oh and At this point needless to say I was startled and pulled my gun out and made my way down... two guy with masks (those winter thingies whats the name in english god damnit) both were armed.

Im guessing the word you are looking for is "ski mask" ?

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by GonePostal
police are assholes
:nod:YES:nod:
Yes they are.
Anyway, Spider. If you feel really bad about it (which I don't think you should, it was either him or you), then go to a shooting range to work on your aim. Once you become a marksman, you can shoot them in the head so they won't suffer. Just kidding, but if you seriously improve your marksmanship you can shoot those guys in the leg or shoulder so they can live to serve time in the slammer, and that's not fun.

[Spider]

Well I already am a marksman... it's just in the line of fire your not the same... it isnt as easy as in a shooting range... they move, they shoot back. I was pumped up on adrenaline (sp?)

Thanks gohan and :lol: thanks for the name.

[Lonehunter]

Well when your at the range walk around as you shoot. Bob your head around, run around. Practice shooting targets like this, people might laugh but you'll be the one laughing when it pays off.

[Kaltagesta]

balaclava

and wow, seriously, you have some fucking balls.

why don't they employ like 2 or three of you [although by the looks of things, they dont need it!] but seriously, wouldnt that work?

[Spider]

They are hiring another guy pretty soon but he will be temporary... only working from time to time.

[Sputty]

I could work there and be a decoy. I'll even wear a shirt with a bulls eye on it

[GonePostal]

actually in a shooting situation the best thing you can do is stay calm and aim


cuz you know damn well that the other guy is freaking out

[Khronos]

Originally posted by GonePostal
actually in a shooting situation the best thing you can do is stay calm and aim


cuz you know damn well that the other guy is freaking out

thats the thing. i bet its so hard to stay calm in such a situation.

[GonePostal]

ye but if you can do it you'll come out alive


hey spider you should get a magnum 357 those guns are so badass, 1 shot anywhere and they're gonna hit the ground

[Spider]

I currently use a 9mm with hollowpoint bullets. I can't use anything else. Regulations... but i'll try to negociate the terms with my boss.

[Robot]

holy crap, spider, good to hear you're okay, dude.

talk to your boss and see if you can get an assistant or a buddy or something to go along with you on patrols. you were incredibly lucky that you didn't get killed.

and don't feel bad about killing that guy. you acted in total self-defense.

[Lonehunter]

Yeah spider, one gaurd isn't very good. Talk to your boss and try to get somebody else helping you, at least part time. I don't think it'll be that hard, "Hey you wanna soot people and be shot at for 200k a year?" "Hell yeah!" I would.

[EineBeBoP]

Originally posted by Robot
holy crap, spider, good to hear you're okay, dude.

talk to your boss and see if you can get an assistant or a buddy or something to go along with you on patrols. you were incredibly lucky that you didn't get killed.

and don't feel bad about killing that guy. you acted in total self-defense.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

exactally what he said.

Spider, what exactally are you guarding? and why are so many people so interested in getting to it? or is that "classified"? lol

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by EineBeBoP
what exactally are you guarding?
He works in a dildo factory in Canada, SSHHH

[Spider]

Computer part and computer... load of cash... oh and we get prototypes of graphic cards and the such... at wich point they get distributed to the testers (the companies)

So someone who busts in can probly get a prototype of the 9900 pro or something... go figure.

oh and LOADS of cash... :O_O: and there is a small safe so people can pay to store valuable things... like jewels etc. etc. you get my point?

lots of shit people are interested in apparently...

[Everay]

spider, think i can get a new comp :p and dont feel bad mate, there are no worse people in the world than theives, liars, and ummm, mass murderers, people like them, i dispise. well good job, it was in self defence, they fired first

[Lonehunter]

Spider after you said all that, you better hope none of the PSU Canadian members try to shoot you and take some stuff.

[ObnoxiousFrog]

Wow. I am amazed. To do something like that a week into your job is...I'm speechless, really.

BTW, did you get a glimpse of what the bastards were using as weapons? Like type of weapon and possibly make/model?

[Onizuka]

Woah i could not handle your job. You did great.

[Spider]

Yes... well kinda... one was using a 9mm and the other was a pump one barell shotgun, pretty accurate POS... no slug luckly.

In the heat of the moment I didnt bother to check on the brand or whatever... maybe I'll get more information later (by the cops) no idea...

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by Lonehunter187
Spider, they were trying to kill you. That doesn't make you want to retaliate in any way? It was either him or you. Now you know you can handle yourself in tough situations. Good job :thumbsup: For once, LoneHunter and I agree, at least in part. While I can never imagine what it feels like to take a life, they DID shoot at you so it was self-defense, plus you were just doing your job. Good to see you're ok.

But seriously, 15 minute response time!? Jesus.

[Everay]

yea 15 minuets, canadian cops suck

[Lexington_Steele]

I see why they pay 200K. I say you ask for a raise because of your performance this week.

[EarlyDawn]

Indeed, or at the very least, the authorization to carry a bigger handgun, like a .357 Magnum or a .45 or something.

[EineBeBoP]

or at least a lasher!



....sorry, i know. seperate RL from fanatsy...


:lol: j/k

[Doobz]

i personally would go for a .45 if they allow it, great stopping power

[Everay]

or the ability to set up a few mines and boomers :p

[Squeeky]

Your security companies procedure is way wrong....

I'll ask Asmodeous who is a law enforcement buff like me but i am 99.9% sure that when you give the command to a suspect you tell them to put there arms out spread eagle and lay on the ground, telling them to put there arms behind there back is like asking them to pull a weapon out of there back wastebelt.

[WildEagle]

I have cousin who's a preacher and asked him in a situation like that is killing someone or even accidently killing some one was ok if u were trying to protect ur self and the fact that they were shooting back.He said it was a tuff question, buttt he said u did the right and wrong thing and I'm still trying to get a real answer.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by WildEagle
He said it was a tuff question, buttt he said u did the right and wrong thing and I'm still trying to get a real answer.

Screw that. Those guys knew the risks when he broke in and when he fired the first shots.

You were in a situation that you had the right to be in, someone tried to take your life, and you survived. It is very clear that you made the right decision.

[Spider]

bah I'm not having religious concerns since I dont beleive in anything religion related... but I was concerned I did do something wrong.. but I'm over it...

Maybe I did an error reading the procedures eh after all its my first week :ugh:

I'm not gonna ask for a raise... they gave me 3 days off because of the repairs and major police surveillance. After wich I will resume my post... all in all I could but I won't eh

[WildEagle]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
Screw that. Those guys knew the risks when he broke in and when he fired the first shots.

You were in a situation that you had the right to be in, someone tried to take your life, and you survived. It is very clear that you made the right decision. yeah ur right but spider does it haunt u that u actually killed some1 in real life?

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by Squeeky
Your security companies procedure is way wrong....

I'll ask Asmodeous who is a law enforcement buff like me but i am 99.9% sure that when you give the command to a suspect you tell them to put there arms out spread eagle and lay on the ground, telling them to put there arms behind there back is like asking them to pull a weapon out of there back wastebelt. Was thinking the EXACT same thing, but regardless, you handled yourself well.

As for the preacher thing, as far as I'm concerned, all religion goes to hell when a guy with a shotgun runs in and starts spraying. Then you aim for the head and put them down before they hurt you or someone else.

[WildEagle]

again I agree with u shut the fuck up

[EarlyDawn]

Originally posted by WildEagle
yeah ur right but spider does it haunt u that u actually killed some1 in real life? WTF is wrong with you? The man risked his life, and protected his charge, himself, and anyone else who by chance may have been in the building at the time, As was said, those men knew the risks when they walked into the building, much less opened fire, so the hell with them. Don't ask him a question like that, it's bad enough that he had to. No need to torment him about it. It was them or him, it's a miracle that one made it out.

[WildEagle]

ok stfu

[EarlyDawn]

Ignored, good job. Don't post something if you can't stand up to the flames, tard.

[WildEagle]

lok I'm just trying to agree not flame

[EarlyDawn]

"ok stfu" does not constitute an agreement. You're so nuts you're not even worth the energy to block. :rolleyes:

[Spider]

No it doesnt haunt me... my parents were killed 2 years ago and I saw them die in front of my eyes both of them shot in the heart... I was then shot... many people know this... I just don't care about human lives or mine for a matter of fact...

I was just feeling weird because it was the first time I killed someone... I kinda enjoyed it and kinda did not at the same time... I feel like it was my revenge for my parents death...

So no it doesnt haunt me and I'm not disturbed by the fact that I could of gotten killed either... I'm just weird...

[WildEagle]

Originally posted by LNS0388
"ok stfu" does not constitute an agreement. You're so nuts you're not even worth the energy to block. :rolleyes: look ur starting to make mad sorry plz accept my appology

[Doobz]

jesus christ, your parents were shot in front of you?

wow, i don't even know how to respond to that, that's just fucking evil...

[Strygun]

man, if I was in your position when they crashed into your warehouse spider.. I would've run screaming like a little schoolgirl...

I don't know if I could bring myself to shoot a gun at someone.

Good job spider.

[AsylumX]

As everyone else is saying it was you or them man and you made the right choice. And whoever was talking about bobbing up and down around the shooting range, yeah it helps up your accuracy in situations like that, but try to do it when there's not a lot of people around :D

Hopefully this kind of shit doesn't keep happening to you over the next couple weeks/months/years. I don't agree it was entirely luck, you obviously have the skill and/or training to deal with these situations, but it's only a matter of time before you end up getting shot again :( if there's more and more robberies. If there is i suggest ask for more than just another temporary guy, have 2-3 other guys there with you...and like someone mentioned in the previous thread about this job...if you know a cop, or know someone who knows a cop, tell him to drop by once or twice a night for 10-20mins at a time...people won't be as eager to break in to a place full of cops :D

You were doing your job and saving your ass man, good work :)

AsylumX

[Spider]

eh thanks... its a good thing coming from you stry...

and don't worry doobz I'm over it... it was when I was 15 so all I want really is revenge. Salvation or something... (am i making sense) I feel I kinda got a part of me back when this all ended... they were never caught (the guys who killed my parents) so... if I ever find them they are dead... I can still see them perfectly in my head...

anyhoo no need for the drama :)

[xuur]

I would be more worried if you didn't feel at least a little something over it. Weird or remorse or whathaveyou. It gets a little scary when a person does that/has to do that and feels nothing.

Talk to someone about it. Preferably a councelor. Shit like that has a way of sneakin' back up on ya later, sometimes much later. Trust me, I know a little something about it.

peace

http://members.cox.net/boba2/Sigs/peace.gif

[Spider]

Thanks Xuur

[Setari]

someone said they dont know if they could bring their gun up to shoot someone....i may not know much but it would seem once ur fired on that would all go out the window...anyway good job to spider

[Pilgrim]

OK now wait

You're 17 and are working as an armed security guard?

sorry mate but I'm starting to smell the bullshit.

Link a news site, or something, this is a big enough deal to make the news anywhere but the largest city... otherwise, the kewl action movie back story, avenging hero, cold distant badass just smells a bit rank for me.

If it is true, then you did the right thing. But more likely then not I'm smelling internet crap.

[Vick]

Originally posted by xuur
I would be more worried if you didn't feel at least a little something over it. Weird or remorse or whathaveyou. It gets a little scary when a person does that/has to do that and feels nothing.

Talk to someone about it. Preferably a councelor. Shit like that has a way of sneakin' back up on ya later, sometimes much later. Trust me, I know a little something about it.

peace


I was going to say exactly that.

Feeling nothing about ending someones life is wrong. You were right to do it, it was you or them, but you should still feel something about your actions.

[Doobz]

and Hunter, he's 19

[WritheNC]

I don't envy you. Most people have never killed anyone before, and I hope I would never have to.

Not something to be taken lightly. You should seek counseling.

[Pilgrim]

Just working the math

Parents killed 2 years ago, when he was 15.

Guess that could be a mistype but that adds up to 17

And don't know how Canada is, but to be an armed security guard in US you have to be 21. at least in CO you do. What is it in Canada? I know y'all have stricter gun control then we do!

I guess it's just that when I was 17/18 I met several people who were ex-wet-work operatives, cia assassins, and ninjas just back from a mission. So I take any tale too dramatic to be believed with a grain of salt. Not saying it can't happen, just saying post a link to proove it.

And again, not an attack, if it happened then I'm all behind you Spider! you go boy!

Just to big a fan of Regan... Trust but Verify.

[Doobz]

according to the birth date under his profile, he's 19

[Kaltagesta]

Originally posted by xuur
I would be more worried if you didn't feel at least a little something over it. Weird or remorse or whathaveyou. It gets a little scary when a person does that/has to do that and feels nothing.


eerm.... look at the title of the thread. and he said on his very first post that he felt weird because he'd killed someone.

[Spider]

Parents killed 2 years ago, when he was 15.

Sorry typo

I could edit it but no point in it. You make the math for yourself I'm almost (i will be in december) 19 and they were killed when I was 15.

I just woke up to the sound of my roommate waxing her legs :scared:

[Lonehunter]

"her"? :brow:

[Spider]

And then? only friends :lol: I do admit she is hot... but I could never go out with my roommate ;).

And she has the nasty habbit of doing her stretches in the living room in her bra and thong after her shower... *sighs* I shouldnt post that :lol: if she find out I'm a castrated man...

[Eukament]

First, Im glad you are ok Spider. Im glad we don't have too much of this going on in Norway , yet. The police don't even carry guns here, lots of regulation etc.

Now, take a sneak photo of your roommate for us =) While she is doing her stretches :love:

[Spider]

Wish I had a digi cam for you guys... guess i'tll wait till I get one (soon hopefully)

[JetRaiden]

score! ;)

[GonePostal]

tell you what dude im gonna go steal a digi cam and then im gonna mail it to you...

[Spider]

:lol: dont get shot ;)

[GonePostal]

lol naw you cant shoot anybody in america legally unless they shoot you first haha
other than that they can only threatin you witha gun
thats the way it seems atleast:D

[xuur]

lol naw you cant shoot anybody in america legally unless they shoot you first haha

you obviously dont live in my neighborhood

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[Spider]

Originally posted by xuur
you obviously dont live in my neighborhood

:sniper:
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:lol: :rofl:

[GonePostal]

ye i live in suburbia

most i have to worry bout is fights and smackheads

[MilitantB0B]

Originally posted by GonePostal
lol naw you cant shoot anybody in america legally unless they shoot you first haha
other than that they can only threatin you witha gun
thats the way it seems atleast:D No, you can't shoot anyone in America unless they pose serious threat to you or someone else life or wellbeing. That means, if a guy comes at you with a tire iron, you can shoot him. If a guy breaks into your house, you can shoot him, if a guy is robbing someone else at knife/gun/whatever point, you can shoot him. These are not hard and fast rules however, and sometimes people do get charged with manslaughter or some such thing.

[Happy lil Elf]

Actually there really is no set law for self defence in America. It's going to vary from state to state rather widely.

Spider, excellent job on making the best out of a bad situation.

[Pilgrim]

On an interesting side note Colorado has a make my day law, it states that you can shoot anyone you feel is a threat to yourself OR your property.

The joke aorund here is if you shoot someone outside drag them inside so the MAke my Day law Aplies :)

Anyway still waiting for any proof that this happened, I've searched the news in both english and French to no avail. nothing about it anywhere...

I never knew Canada was such a Violent place!

[Spider]

The best you will get is a small column by Le droit talking about a robery and that the security guard (me) didnt want to comment eh...