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[Combat-Wombat]

I am currently running on a P3 1Ghz proccesor, 256megs of ram, a geforce4 is there any hope for my running this game at the moment as this seems to be below the minimum requirements or is this subject to much change. I am unable to buy anything expensive as i am 14 :p.

[Led]

I would seriously reccomend upgrading your processor and ram :( It might do fine if there are just a few people on screen... but get in any decent sized fight and your framerate will go straight south.

[Civilian]

As cheap as ram is, I can't understand why everyone doesn't have at least 512 MBs. I have pretty much the exact same setup as you, and I have already made plans to build a new system. It's not looking good for those of us with dinky processors (of course when I bought mine, the best you could get was 1.2 GHZ, so I guess it's time to upgrade).

[drsomewhere]

yeah, i was running a p 3 450 and i think i upgraded at a good time, to 1.7 athlon XP (2100+) 512 RAM 80 GB hard drive and (music Sounds) Radeon 9700 PRO!!!! Cable modem and 19 inch monitor came too...

[Hamma]

I highly reccomend a proc/mem upgrade

[Sputty]

Upgrade your RAM for sure. You may be able to run it on 256 but it'll look bad and run slow...RAM for P3s is cheap anyway..

[WhiteSun]

More RAM. The processor will probably bog occasionally, but you can be assured of lost frames and reduced _fun_ when Windows/PS has to hit the swap file.

Go to www.crucial.com and grab an extra 512 for that thing. You will be able to feel the difference.

[Sandtaco]

Yeah, I imagine you're processor will do fine... I'm running on a P3 1.2 (somewhere around there) and by the release of PS I'll have 512 MB and a Radeon 9000 pro :p

[Sputty]

Anyone know if my AMD 2200+ with 512 MB RAM but a Radeon 8500 will keep up. I think it'll be fine..but not sure..I'm upgrading my video card in the summer...and BTW, that's my plan for upgrades in Feb. I'm using a P3 1Ghz now..hehe.

[Soltari]

I can't wait to try my 2.3 ghz 512 mb dd ram :)

[Venoxile]

I still don't understand how any vid cards but the geforce fx could possibly handle 100 people on their screen at once with good fps.

[CrazyMike]

They are working on getting the minimum specs down, but even IF they drop the minimum ram below 512mb you should skill upgrade. Ram is so cheap it's the easiest thing you can do to upgrade your comp and it will make a big difference.


CrazyMike

[SleightOfHand]

Actually, Dave posted something about the system requirements on the official forums. I believe there was a guy who asked how the continents were going to be loaded, so Dave responded something like this:

"When you enter a continent, a thumbnail texture loads for everything you might see on the continent. When your system isn't doing anything system intensive larger textures are loaded.
...
We're including an option to play with the thumbnails only for the people with 256mb RAM (yes, we're working on lowering our system requirements."

I'll see if I can find the exact post for you, but it looks like you should be able to play with 256 right now.

[SleightOfHand]

Found it already.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum2/HTML/001130.html

Most of the way down the page.

[Hamma]

http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1136

[�io]

Just saw the 9700pro at futurshop. Only a small 650$. :eek:

Hopefully that's just Futurshop trying to screw people and i can find it somewhere here cheaper, if not i'll try to order from the stated i guess. :)

[Navaron]

JEEEZ did you get a tube of anal lube and a steak dinner with that???? Wow man they are trying to screw you (assuming that is dollars and not Canadaland money). What is the Canadian conversion rate? A good price with shipping is about 320 US.

[�io]

320US = 500Can.

I thought it was lower than that though. Or at least so says pricewatch(230$ there).

But i'm not changing cards till the FX comes out so if i buy the ATI it shouldn't be that much. :)

[Navaron]

Thats probably for an OEM (which doesn't have a memory heatsink) or "gold" edition. The best bet is to pay for the full price for the ATI brand just so you don't spend time mailing it around if it's busted.

[Combat-Wombat]

wow thanks for the help

[Combat-Wombat]

it costs about 200$ for a 256mb memory stick, i dont think im gonna risk my babysitting on it seeing it might still not work, for 200$ thats about 1/5th of the way to a brand new computer..

[Dragoon412]

Combat-Wombat,

Yeah, maybe if you're looking at some godawful place like Best Buy. Go online. Hell, you don't even need to go to Pricewatch and hunt for the best price -- just go to www.crucial.com. You can get a single 256 MB stick of PC2100 DDR for something in the ballpark of $75, and PC133 is dirt cheap right now, if your system uses that.

Never, ever buy computer components from Best Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City, etc. They sell absolute bottom-of-the-barrel garbage and absolutely rape you on the price. The ONLY time it's worth buying anything computer-related from them is if they have something you specifically want that's on clearance and is an item that's not really seen as an upgrade... i.e. sometimes you can get a good deal on a NIC or a hub or something of that variety, but that's it.

I thought it was lower than that though. Or at least so says pricewatch(230$ there).

Yeah, like Nav said, those are OEM cards... they're clocked lower than a standard 9700P and are missing the memory heatsinks, so you can't just clock the thing up like a normal 9700P, as you've been able to do for YEARS with ATi products.

One thing to look for are the third party manufacturers that ATi's recently allowed to use their chipset. Sapphire and PowerColor in particular are excellent models. The Sapphire can be overlocked rather impressively right out of the box, and the PowerColor is pretty feature-rich. Plus, with those you don't need to worry about OEM vs. retail, 'cause they're all retail.

[Combat-Wombat]

crucials price for memory for my dell dimension xps b1000r is 179$. Unless ive got everything wrong you must buy system specific memory, one or two different memory sticks for each computer system, and those sticks only work on those computers. is that right? Btw crucial doesn't actually have it either

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Originally posted by Venoxile
I still don't understand how any vid cards but the geforce fx could possibly handle 100 people on their screen at once with good fps.

The geforce FX is very not neccesary for this type of game. It would be nice to run on it but you won't need it even for some of the very intense battles. Unless the screenshots are fooling the crap out of me the graphics aren't as demanding as something like doom 3.

Something like a gf4 ti4600 or the ATI radeon 9700 pro should run this game just fine under just about any circumstance. That also depends on your existing system configuration. You're not going to have a very good time with just the minumum system requirements for ram and cpu speeds regardless of what card you have.

[Sputty]

Someone said, not sure who but it may have been Hamma or someone on the staff, that a Geforce 3 would be handle it well enough. I'm using a Radeon 8500 and that handles everything I've played well enough at the "medium" settings that it rarely has any comp lag.

[Validuz]

Originally posted by Wh|teSun
More RAM. The processor will probably bog occasionally, but you can be assured of lost frames and reduced _fun_ when Windows/PS has to hit the swap file.

Go to www.crucial.com and grab an extra 512 for that thing. You will be able to feel the difference.

Whoever buys memory is a fool. Their prices are DOUBLE the prices at Pricewatch lists.

[Navaron]

Yeah maybe, but you have to take into account quality and customer service. You *can* buy from someone you've never heard of, and maybe luck up, or you can go with a well known name. I'd say it would be worth the extra 25 bucks, for a better product and better support.

[Venoxile]

Aight, i'm going to ask again, how will ANY card beable to run well with 100 people on your fucking screen at once? Geforce 3 can't even run tournament 2003 with about 4-8 people on screen at once with highest resolution. Multiply that by 10-20 fucking times.

[Sputty]

That's your prob. lower the resolution..Geez, it's pretty straightforward...

[Venoxile]

To what? How could a geforce 3 run it even at 800x600??

[Sputty]

Heh, it should be able to.

[Venoxile]

arghh, why can't you see that makes no sense.

[Sputty]

Why does it make no sense? All you said is it can't run at the highest resolutions where only the newest and fastest cards could and then they'd lag. What about other specs? Then you said 800 X 600 and it should be avble to run fine on that. You didnt give the quality of the graphics what it's set at either.

[Venoxile]

Hamma, can you get some info for me on whats the worst graphic card that can run perfectly fine at a low resolution in a very very large battle?

[SleightOfHand]

New word, Venoxile:

optimization. Pronounced op-tim-is-ay-shun. When applied to a graphics engine it means that it will run on things that all human logic says it shouldn't.


Hamma:

http://www.planetside-universe.com/...=&threadid=1136


Whoops.

[WhiteSun]

Originally posted by Validuz
Whoever buys memory is a fool. Their prices are DOUBLE the prices at Pricewatch lists.

LOL. Call me a fool?

We are talking quality parts here, tested and guaranteed. Not some unknown fly-by-night computer parts reseller in CA with not a single employee who speaks English. (which drives me up the farking wall)

Here's an example. This computer is based on a Tyan Tiger MPX mobo. I want to throw some additional memory in it. It uses PC2100 DDR and I prefer registered/ECC. So let's go shopping... www.crucial.com lists the price per 512MB stick at 162.89USD. The most similar part I could find by listing the Crucial spec on Pricewatch was 134USD before shipping. The Crucial price includes free UPS blue. So, I'm really saving about 18USD by buying it from some unknown parts house on the west coast. And you know what? The first time I have a stick fail, that 18USD just paid for itself.

If you just want a monitor, you can buy the 79USD 17" monitor at CompUSA. I'm sure it works, as in turns on and emits light from the glass part on the front. Or you can get a Sony CPD-G220S for 329USD. Which one do you think is better? Which company do you trust more?

Pricewatch works fine if you have a specific manufacturer's part number to search for. If you are just typing in PC2100 512MB and buying the first thing on the list, you are playing with fire.

edit: switched all $s to USD to avoid confusion

[Venoxile]

Whats with the quote and the thread that doesn't work.

[Sputty]

Weird the crucial 8500LE costs more money than futureshop's and I'm in Canada..hehe...I don't really understand...

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Veno if you have a geforce 3 assuming it's a 64 mb one it's going to depend alot on your computer and not just your video card. The same goes with any card but with cards like the ti4600 and the radeon 9700 you shouldn't have any problems running the game without problems in any situation. BTW UT2k3 is more graphically demanding than PS. The only difference is the environments. Those will be what drains your fps.

[Dragoon412]

Okay, Blue_zero, I don't mean to be rude, but since you've missed it in the other threads where you've been doling out crappy technical advice, please, just <B>shut up!!!</B>

A GF4 and Radeon 9700 aren't even remotely in the same league. I don't know how to beat it into your head. THEY. ARE. NOT. EVEN. SIMILAR. A GF4 doesn't outperform the Radeon 8500 by a large margin, and it doesn't even hold a candle to the 9700, let alone the 9700 Pro.

A GF4 will choke with a lot of action going on at once, a 9700/P will not. It's that simple. If you want to have your system come to a grinding halt everytime you get more than 20 people on your screen, go nuts. If you wanna keep a nice smooth framerate through massive firefights, get a 9700.

[SleightOfHand]

The quote was for Hamma.

[�io]

Venoxile the min specs are a GeForce2. I think GeForces 3 and 4 and the Radeon's 9000 and 9700 will do fine, we don't all need to go buy an overpriced VPU. :)

[Venoxile]

yeah, you think, but have you ever played it? Do you have any evidence at all thats true? I mean nothings been said but that the minimum requirements for the beta is 512 mb ram 1 gig mhz and a geforce 2.
Couldn't hamma give me some info on this or a dev?

[Sputty]

The computers that Hamma played on had a 1.7 Ghz(Don't know what type, I'm assuming P4) processor, 1 Gig of RAM, and Geforce 4s and they ran without lag or anyhting without the product being finsihed and they're still optimizing so I;d think a Geforce 3 would work fine.

[Navaron]

Venox - don't be so difficult, listen, every else one be cool.

Hamma's interview the other day had a part in it where they ask about min graphic cards and what will work. It doesn't sound like you'll believe me if I tell you, but he said that a G3 and above should run it fine. Fine to me means good enough. IF you want uber performance with aa and all kinds a stupid stuff, then buy a 9700pro. Otherwise play at a sane level like the rest of us.

You guys need to calm down. No sense raising pulses over hardwarde.

[SleightOfHand]

So...I might, like be able to get those pretty graphics in most of the screenshots? Wow.

[Sputty]

Waht if my heart is just really taxed out? Is it ok to have a raised pulse from sitting?...Can someone help me??!?!?!

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Originally posted by Dragoon412
Okay, Blue_zero, I don't mean to be rude, but since you've missed it in the other threads where you've been doling out crappy technical advice, please, just <B>shut up!!!</B>

A GF4 and Radeon 9700 aren't even remotely in the same league. I don't know how to beat it into your head. THEY. ARE. NOT. EVEN. SIMILAR. A GF4 doesn't outperform the Radeon 8500 by a large margin, and it doesn't even hold a candle to the 9700, let alone the 9700 Pro.

A GF4 will choke with a lot of action going on at once, a 9700/P will not. It's that simple. If you want to have your system come to a grinding halt everytime you get more than 20 people on your screen, go nuts. If you wanna keep a nice smooth framerate through massive firefights, get a 9700.

I'm sorry but you're an idiot. First of all you need to factor in the type of graphics that the game uses. PS has some good graphics and sure they can be pretty straining on a graphics card but a gf4 will be able to handle it just fine for the most part.

The GF4 and the Radeon 9700 are the only 2 cards that can be remotely categorized together. I mention them because they are the two best cards you can get on the market right now. Don't be a dumbass not once did I say that the GF4 was superior to the Radeon 9700 pro. The GF4 may choke somewhat in huge battles but compared to other cards except the radeon 9700 it's not as bad.

I'm not sure why you think I'm telling people to go GF4 instead of Radeon because if you have the choice and can afford either get the Radeon. It's clearly better but you need to realize until the GF FX and the new ATI GPUs come out those two are the best you can get. Regardless of the obvious difference in power people still buy the ti4600 for good reason. It's not a bad card but when you stack it up against a card like the Radeon 9700 it does put it to shame. Never said it didn't.

Don't start acting like some superior tech genius in here boy.