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Strygun
2003-08-14, 04:45 PM
Just after 4pm EST, power went out in many of the big northeastern towns, including NY, Detriot, Cleveland, Toledo, Toronto, etc etc etc...

No one knows why, but NY is having looters, fires, and fights on the street.

Tune into CNN or MSNBC or something, this is interesting.

EineBeBoP
2003-08-14, 04:46 PM
lol srtygun, your getting lazy ;)

I've been watching this for a bit, and you JUST posted it?

somebody needs to hit that F5 button on wnn.com more!
J/K :) yeah, it is interesting. do they think its a terrorist attack, or just a freak accident?

Spider
2003-08-14, 04:47 PM
hmmm excellent my plan is working.... crap!

Mr1337Duck
2003-08-14, 05:08 PM
They think the Niagra-Mohawk power grid went offline.

firecrackerNC
2003-08-14, 05:14 PM
Damn im in Cleveland and was driving home from work and saw 4-5 accidents already,im on my labtop so i can still come here,but dude anyone seen T3? mabey this is skynet and terminators are gonna kill us and nukes drop on us,hell,it could happen........

Kaltagesta
2003-08-14, 05:16 PM
firecracker, you have like some huge WAN?

how can you connect to the net from a lappy while driving?

Lexington_Steele
2003-08-14, 05:22 PM
Thanks for the heads up! :)

NCG JMan
2003-08-14, 05:31 PM
Damn. That sucks. They say it's not a terrorist attack. Imagine being the one in/on the subway. Here's what CNN reports:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/08/14/power.outage/index.html

Navaron
2003-08-14, 05:39 PM
What the hell is everyone just standing around for?

Kaltagesta
2003-08-14, 06:08 PM
everyones job requires power.

no power = no jobs = no need to go to work. but still, i dunnp why they are all stabding out there.

Lonehunter
2003-08-14, 06:11 PM
Is it still out?

Strygun
2003-08-14, 06:19 PM
yes

Onizuka
2003-08-14, 06:30 PM
so glad i dont live in nyc.

�io
2003-08-14, 06:39 PM
1- They aren't standing around. Some have no clue how to get home without subway system, the others know how but have to walk since subways are out.

2- Strygun what's your source? I've heard every that there was no looting or fires in NYC(well reported yet).

3-As of now they do not think it's a terrorist attack, for unknown reasons there was a power failure in a southern canada or new york system that caused a cascade effect and shut down the entire grid. Currently they are restarting the system bit by bit as it is a slow and complex procedure and "with a lot of luck power will be back up tonight".

Revolver
2003-08-14, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by �io
"with a lot of luck power will be back up tonight". That's what they said after Hurricane Andrew down here. And it only took 'em 4-5 months.

Navaron
2003-08-14, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Revolver
That's what they said after Hurricane Andrew down here. And it only took 'em 4-5 months.

But you're not New York.

Spider
2003-08-14, 07:49 PM
YAY we are gonna have 2 days of non-stop talk about the damned thing like the NASA incident and 9/11

EarlyDawn
2003-08-14, 09:19 PM
Current word is that lightning hit the Niagra power facility causing an electron cascade knocking out power across several power grids. They insist it's not an act of terrorism. I have heard no reports of looting or fighting, nor fires. I walked outside in Ridgeood, NJ and thought someone had set off an EMP, it was spooky :-/

Navaron
2003-08-14, 09:29 PM
My first thought was an EMP blast too, then I realized how much mass media actually affects me. I gotta lay off of movies.

Sputty
2003-08-14, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
My first thought was an EMP blast too, then I realized how much mass media actually affects me. I gotta lay off of movies.
Indeed. Anyway, my army of kittens did well today.
I need to get a generator or something

Strygun
2003-08-14, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by �io
1- They aren't standing around. Some have no clue how to get home without subway system, the others know how but have to walk since subways are out.

2- Strygun what's your source? I've heard every that there was no looting or fires in NYC(well reported yet).

3-As of now they do not think it's a terrorist attack, for unknown reasons there was a power failure in a southern canada or new york system that caused a cascade effect and shut down the entire grid. Currently they are restarting the system bit by bit as it is a slow and complex procedure and "with a lot of luck power will be back up tonight".

yeah, I posted this a little after it all started.. from what I heard, there was a fire at con ed (which there wasn't, then there was, then there wasn't..whatever) and the fighting was the people that got the CNN lady off the phone in the middle of her reporting.

the looting was from FOX or something..

Sputty
2003-08-14, 10:23 PM
Fox news lies so don't trust them. Heh, anyway, I only had the radio.

Destroyeron
2003-08-15, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by firecrackerNC
Damn im in Cleveland and was driving home from work and saw 4-5 accidents already,im on my labtop so i can still come here,but dude anyone seen T3? mabey this is skynet and terminators are gonna kill us and nukes drop on us,hell,it could happen........


*I wish*

X-113
2003-08-15, 02:38 AM
At approxomately 1:35 AM power has come back across all of Staten Island. :D

With the ABC news program I was listening to on my portable radio all night, I'm honestly surprised there haven't been any suicide reports. What with the whole gloom and doom, "dress rehearsal for the end of the Republic" as they put it.

Not that they dont bring up some valid points. If one random weather event can knock out power for an estimated 50 million people, imagine what a real, calculated terrorist strike could do. :eek:

Onizuka
2003-08-15, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Spider
YAY we are gonna have 2 days of non-stop talk about the damned thing like the NASA incident and 9/11

9/11 was a REALLY BIG DEAL. and so was the nasa crash. silly canadian. :p

EineBeBoP
2003-08-15, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by Onizuka
9/11 was a REALLY BIG DEAL. and so was the nasa crash. silly canadian. :p

.... trix are for kids?

:p power still out? too lazy 2 turn on TV :p

�io
2003-08-15, 12:49 PM
Wow that's REALLY lazy. :lol:

Hamma
2003-08-15, 03:35 PM
It was my bad, I tripped over the northeast extension cable

Onizuka
2003-08-15, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
It was my bad, I tripped over the northeast extension cable

did we have any doubt :p

Lonehunter
2003-08-15, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by LNS0388
Current word is that lightning hit the Niagra power facility causing an electron cascade knocking out power across several power grids. They insist it's not an act of terrorism. I have heard no reports of looting or fighting, nor fires. I walked outside in Ridgeood, NJ and thought someone had set off an EMP, it was spooky :-/
Current word is that lightning did not hit the Niaga power facility causing an electron cascade knockingpower out acrooss several power grids.

firecrackerNC
2003-08-15, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
firecracker, you have like some huge WAN?

how can you connect to the net from a lappy while driving?

sorry guess i made it sound like i was driving at the time,,i just ment as i was driving home i saw them,thats all

Lonehunter
2003-08-15, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
firecracker, you have like some huge WANG?
:O_O:

Edit: :rofl: I'm sorry I couldn't resist, this post should be deleted.

firecrackerNC
2003-08-15, 05:27 PM
lol....wtf.....:confused:

Milenko
2003-08-15, 07:30 PM
POWER BACK NEAR WHERE I LIVE!

I live near Detroit (ctwp) and its been SOOOO BORING! But power back so all is good, for a bit we were thinking we'd have to wait the whole weekend for the power to come back THAT WOULD SUCK!

Everay
2003-08-15, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by X-113

Not that they dont bring up some valid points. If one random weather event can knock out power for an estimated 50 million people, imagine what a real, calculated terrorist strike could do. :eek:

to burst your bubble, a lightning bolt is so powerful that we cannont yet replicated it, but the only thing that comes close to replicating it is a small nuke, it burns at 5 million degrees and has enough power to do what it did just yesterday, i dont think a terrorist can do that, mother nature is one strong bitch

BTW. a Nuke when exploding, is 1 million degrees, a lightning bolt is just as hot as the sun, the reason you dont see us all dieing and frying is because lightning bolts come and go so fast, and they never really strike someone dead on, but come close, thats why sometimes people live, but then there are times when it does come close to striking them head on and they will die

�io
2003-08-15, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Everay
to burst your bubble, a lightning bolt is so powerful that we cannont yet replicated it, but the only thing that comes close to replicating it is a small nuke, it burns at 5 million degrees and has enough power to do what it did just yesterday, i dont think a terrorist can do that, mother nature is one strong bitch

BTW. a Nuke when exploding, is 1 million degrees, a lightning bolt is just as hot as the sun, the reason you dont see us all dieing and frying is because lightning bolts come and go so fast, and they never really strike someone dead on, but come close, thats why sometimes people live, but then there are times when it does come close to striking them head on and they will die

Not that i don't believe you but could you explain to those of us who don't know how lightning rods and other things often hit by lightnining survive after being hit by something that's as hot as the sun?

Revenant
2003-08-15, 08:02 PM
Not to mention those ppl that get hit by them (rare, but it happens) and live to tell about it.....

�io
2003-08-15, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by Revenant
Not to mention those ppl that get hit by them (rare, but it happens) and live to tell about it.....

Indeed.

Squick
2003-08-15, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Everay
to burst your bubble, a lightning bolt is so powerful that we cannont yet replicated it, but the only thing that comes close to replicating it is a small nuke, it burns at 5 million degrees and has enough power to do what it did just yesterday, i dont think a terrorist can do that, mother nature is one strong bitch

BTW. a Nuke when exploding, is 1 million degrees, a lightning bolt is just as hot as the sun, the reason you dont see us all dieing and frying is because lightning bolts come and go so fast, and they never really strike someone dead on, but come close, thats why sometimes people live, but then there are times when it does come close to striking them head on and they will die

Nukes are nearly 500 times hotter then your guess...
http://people.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb8.htm

At the hypocenter, everything is immediately vaporized by the high temperature (up to 500 million degrees Fahrenheit or 300 million degrees Celsius).

Lightning on the otherhand is about 53,000 Fahrenheit.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/DavidFriedman.shtml (still looking into more info on this one, that number seems way too low, but I know a lightning bolt is not 500 million degrees...)