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RazorPlasma
2003-08-14, 07:37 PM
Meh. I've been thinking about getting a MAX, because they are extremely effective on missions. I just can't decide if I want AI, AA or AV. Can anyone help me choose one on the Terran Republic?

- RazorPlasma

NoSurrender
2003-08-14, 07:47 PM
AI owns period and the AA max is pretty good along with the AV

Lonehunter
2003-08-14, 07:53 PM
It all depends on what you like and your style. Don't get the Pounder unless you can control your self, it can dish out a lot of grief. The Dual Cycler is a pretty good all around MAX. The Burster is the best AA weapon in the game IMO. I've tried the Skygaurd. The Burster can take down a reaver in about10 secs. And since theres no Missile Lock so they can't get away quickly. WARNING! When in the Burster don't fight infantry up close!

Revolver
2003-08-14, 08:01 PM
The AV MAX is wonderful. It's the best of the three AV MAXes (since it can hit, unlike Falcon and Comet).

AI:
VS (Quasar): Deadly at all ranges, and it's AP Mode let's it win AI vs AI MAX fights.
TR (Pounder): Get within 15 feet and you have 0 chance of surviving
NC (ScatterCannon): Get within 7 feet and you have 0 chance of surviving

AV:
TR (Dual Cycler): Can hit anything. Also does signifigant damage against soft and airborne targets.
NC (Falcon): Slow, but packs a serious punch when it hits. Somewhat effective against infanty--if you can hit 'em.
VS (Comet): Slow, and packs a medium punch. Sacrifices must be made for Jump Jets, I guess...

AA:
NC (Sparrow): Speedy missiles that lock and can't be shaken, it's pretty much death to all things flying
TR (Burster): It may be a joke to TR, but it's hit rate is well above that of the Starfire, and it can effectively close of mountain paths for High-altitue continents Thanks to it's splash.
VS (Starfire): Think "Beamer MAX." It's so pathetically useless at what it does. Sorry.

JetRaiden
2003-08-14, 08:06 PM
get teh Dual Cycler...it owns everything. I use it to play around on the Test Server. o wait...you're a TR, nevermind...get a....burster...that way I kill you first. :D

Katanaboy
2003-08-14, 09:24 PM
VS (Starfire): Think "Beamer MAX." It's so pathetically useless at what it does. Sorry.
:rofl:
It's so true...and the sad thing is, they're lowering its damage!

Cease
2003-08-14, 09:24 PM
Thats the beauty of the "Forget" function at Cert Terminals. If you got 3 Cert points, try them all out. For myself, its all about the MAX Pounder.

Check this thread out on some Pounder and Burster Tips if you need em.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13084

BigTexas
2003-08-14, 11:30 PM
As NC, I can tell you that the most annoying MAX to fight against TR is...

*drum roll*

THE BURSTER MAX!!!

The pounder is powerful, yes, but only indoors, and that thing kills itself, and kills itself often. The Burster, although it doesnt do that much damage, but you anchor on a cliff and aim at a tower and just rack up those kills. Sniping with big ass explosions, daddy likey.

Sputty
2003-08-15, 02:18 AM
AV MAX is pretty bad, not the worst of the AV MAXes, but the worst of the TR MAXes, and still a pretty bad MAX. AA MAX for TR is better AV, and the Pounder is great for infantry but mainly for cqc. The TR AA is great for longer ranges and has a huge blast radius. The NC AV is ok, seemingly on par the TR, the VS AV, sucks. The NC AI is good. The VS AI is fine. The NC AA is the best AA MAX hands down, the VS AA needs an improvement, but it can still hold it's own on certain targets.

Shadowsword8
2003-08-15, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Katanaboy
:rofl:
It's so true...and the sad thing is, they're lowering its damage!

Learn to read, Katanaboy...

3. The Starfire AA MAX has had its damage degradation removed and its damage has been decreased about 20%. This reduction is only different from the live version at ranges of less than 50 meters. The removal of damage degradation, however, will be very noticable against targets at greater ranges.

The VS AA max will give poorer result agoinst close range infantry fight, but will be far better against reavers and others flyers...

Sputty
2003-08-15, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by BigTexas
As NC, I can tell you that the most annoying MAX to fight against TR is...

*drum roll*

THE BURSTER MAX!!!

The pounder is powerful, yes, but only indoors, and that thing kills itself, and kills itself often. The Burster, although it doesnt do that much damage, but you anchor on a cliff and aim at a tower and just rack up those kills. Sniping with big ass explosions, daddy likey.
NC should tear through MAXes at range in the open like that as if it was a hot knife through butter. You have Phoenixes, which med to long range and powerful, or you could just croutch and use a deci

BigTexas
2003-08-15, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by Sputty
NC should tear through MAXes at range in the open like that as if it was a hot knife through butter. You have Phoenixes, which med to long range and powerful, or you could just croutch and use a deci

Thats what you would think, but range to a foot soldier, and range to an anti aircraft weapon are two different things. Let me help you comprehend the range im talking about. I have both Special Assault and Anti Vehicular, so I have tried both the Decimator and the Phoenix against a Burster MAX anchored at long range. Im still not sure which has a longer range, the Phoenix or Decimator, I believe their range is approximately the same, but I can tell you, that at what may not even be the maximum range of a Burster MAX I have been unable to reach them with either a Phoenix or a Decimator. However, when one of these MAX's is just within maximum range of a Decimator or Phoenix its just as bad, hit a smart soldier with a Phoenix, he backs up and fires from a longer range. I have fired a Decimator at a Burster within its maximum range before and the MAX had enough time to unanchor, and walk away from the missle. That is range, thats the range of a Burster MAX. Its a direct fire anti aircraft weapon, which translates into an annoyance when aimed at ground troops.

Now all this is assuming that you get out of the tower, bunker what have you, and are able to locate the MAX at all. Its really quite difficult to find a Burster MAX when it is pelting your position with flak, as the explosions are so big they usually send you running for cover before you can locate the MAX. Or, even more annoying, the trace smoke signiature leading from the MAX to the impact point is masked by said explosions. Then there is also the fact that most players arent observant enough to even find a MAX like that, and I dont blame them, if it werent from the actual experience of being killed by some quite skilled Burster MAX pilots, I probably wouldnt be scanning the horizon for a black and red speck either. Not to mention that most players are unable to, or by default have their maximum view distance below the absolute maximum and as a result can sometimes not even see the enemy which is assaulting them.

Now all this is assuming that you arent overly preoccupied with the other enemy forces which are more than likely accompanying this MAX.

Thats also assuming that you survive long enough once actually outside of the tower to even get a shot off. Which isnt very likely with the Phoenix as it requires a long period of complete immobility, and isnt much of a use if you are using a Decimator as you have to stop and crouch just to make your firing position stable enough to get a shot off that may be accurate enough to hit your opponent if he is stupid enough to stand still and wait for the missle.

RazorPlasma
2003-08-15, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Cease
Thats the beauty of the "Forget" function at Cert Terminals. If you got 3 Cert points, try them all out. For myself, its all about the MAX Pounder.

Check this thread out on some Pounder and Burster Tips if you need em.
http://www.planetside-universe.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13084

After looking at that thread, the Pounder has definitely caught my eye...is the Pounder at all good for ground vehicles too?

gospadin
2003-08-15, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by RazorPlasma
After looking at that thread, the Pounder has definitely caught my eye...is the Pounder at all good for ground vehicles too?

Um, not really, it's really tough to aim at range, and even harder to hit moving targets.

Plus, the anti-vehicle penetration isn't great at all... takes at least 2 reloads to kill a parked galaxy from point-blank range with a pounder.

I like the burster max, since it can take down aircraft very well, and can kill soft targets at range like snipers and other maxes. Inside the max range it's near useless against non-aircraft, but I got about 30 infantry kills with it the other night, shooting from the roof of our base onto the surrounding ridges at the snipers shooting at us.

Trebor95
2003-08-15, 11:40 AM
The new Vanu AA max is very good :) I tested it a lot on the test server and found it brilliant at taking down reavers and mosies, however!!!! the ones I took out were out of afterburner and couldnt get away but still you could take out a reaver in one ortwo clips :)

Aegis
2003-08-15, 12:27 PM
Pounder rules MAXs, good against everything except aircraft. Gets your grief a bit high though! An anchored pounder is deadly!

Funny thing, i saw an apparetnly invincible pounder yesterday, was walking slowly arouns our AMS (some 30 NC there shooting him) he stops, doesnt even anchor down and shoot the AMS until it blows, then calmly kills all 30 NC, i was the last NC to die and had been running around him shooting him with the rocklet and gause until i ran out of ammo, he killed me as i tried to run. Figured he was cheating somehow and went to flame him, however it said 'the player is not currently online' but i know he was coz i could see him racking up more kills!!!!! He wasnt a corpse either, he was walking and taing 0 damage, i know i had Adv Targetting on.

Vis Armata
2003-08-15, 12:36 PM
I would say (1) AI, (2) AA, and (3) AV.

The TR AI MAX is a tough cookie, no doubt about it. In any confined space, it can stop infantry dead in their tracks. The secondary mode on the grenades is perfect for tower fights, or any stairwell/corridor. The TR AA is great on aircraft (SG's air wing runs into a lot of them lately), but I don't know why the flak shells now kill people, vehicles, structures...it's overreaching IMO, but it is a good MAX. The DC is tough, but I've not had as many problems with it.

SandTrout
2003-08-16, 01:03 AM
I can kill any MAX at close range with a Gauss or Sweeper except the Pounder, and I don't even bother with MAXes at long range because I lack AV.

Indoors, the Pounder owns everything except other MAXes, but they usaly have support from infantry anyways. Its advantage is the heavy damage and the large radius it can do it in. It is the absolute best weapon for attacking groups of enemies.

2 pounders indoors+ light infantry support= Death. Your only hope is to barage them with SA weapons, and it still might take a few respawns to get the job done.

Need to dislodge one from the stairwell of a tower, expect to respawn at least 5 times before he's dead unless you have a squad comeing from the roof behind them.

RazorPlasma
2003-08-17, 09:03 PM
Just one more question. How fast do you run in a MAX? I see MAX's zooming everywhere, not sure about the Pounder though.

Slice
2003-08-17, 10:21 PM
The zooming max you see is when a max has run mode on. If you press Q, your max will start running at high speed, but you will not be able to fire weapons. Otherwise, a max is slower then a reinforced exo

Bismarck
2003-08-17, 10:43 PM
My favorite feeling in the game:

Walking along with a burster on, then I see a nme mosq just kind of hovering looking at something. He doesn't even know whats about to hit him. I anchor, and within 5 seconds he is gone, from range too. And this happens alot in game. Not to mention the unbelieveable scare tactics this thing envokes. You open up with a anchored burster on and every infantry and aircraft wihtin hearing distance hides. I love anchoring on cliffs, then opening up on a tower or base. I have range mag, boy is that fun with the burster :) .


But.......inside the pounder owns everything. You can imagine my joy when I get to the nme (NC) spawn room, (with no freindlies in there) anchor at the door, and kill about 15-20 of the smurfs before my own fire kills me. Ah what a feeling. Do what I do, have both.

Winged_Nazgul
2003-08-17, 11:55 PM
I hated the DC MAX before their nerf, I hate the Pounder MAX, and I'm starting to hate the Burster MAX.

I hate TR MAXes. :mad: