cheats, hacks, exploits

[Sputty]

Thanks to Knoll for spotting this:
http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/planetside/Forum9/HTML/000375.html

[Knoll]

A lot of people seem to think that hacking PS would be impossible. Not sure why that is. It's a pretty major discussion topic on the official forums.

[Sputty]

It's the client side hit detection that makes it easy
Some other things are impossible to stop really

[Doppler]

Just so you know unless the policy from eq changed no SOE employe in any function will ever respond to this kind of thread, in fact just from the subject of the first post, it may very well get closed and a warning issue, its the Official boards and they like to make sure everyone toes the party liune.

[Caspertoo]

Hmm not sure about some of these, but using my infiltrator character, I've been perfectly still in a corner kneeling with surge on and have been still for 45 seconds waiting for some traffic to die down, then BANG a sniper gets me from a long ways off. Definently did not see me move. DL wouldn't work from that distance, so what was it? hmmm...

[Happy lil Elf]

Sometimes when zoomed in to 12x on the sniper scope infiltrators become just barely visible. It's a bug that was fixed for the most part but still seems to pop up from time to time.

[Frozen-Monkey]

so were can these "cheats" be found? (looks around room for anyone that might be there)

[noxious]

lol they think OrgeX cheats. I have killed him more times than he has killed me. And never personally witnessed anything awkward about him.(I'm not trying to sound really skilled, only that I have little trouble killing him, I could list off names of people who own me everytime if you want :p)

[00AgentDuck]

I can sometimes see a none moving cloaker, but I have to be close to him and sometimes he blends in well enough and I'm to busy that he still gets me. On my comp a none moving cloaker is still visible, but it makes for some great camafluge (can't spell worth anything). Oh and one thing I hate dieing to above all is a cloaker that I can see, but I'm to busy taking down the bigger max and the cloaker kills me. Hmm well hope they can do something about most of these hacks and cheats. But, one thing that's the most fun I've ever had on any game, and that's defeating a cheater or hacker in a game even though you don't have any special hacks or cheats. So sometimes skill can beat those cheats and hacks, but other times depending on how cheap they are they they can't be stopped.

Oh and several times I saw people that no matter how many times I shot them they wouldn't die or if I ran them over several times they wouldn't die. And they just stand there. Could this be a result of them trying to use the lag hack? But they messed it up? Oh and it can't be normal lag because I've seen this happen to people where there was no big battle happening at all. But hey, it also could be normal lag so I'm not calling them a defiant cheater or anything.

[Lonehunter]

I've been acoused of cheating before. One time a vangaurd was about to run me over but it just kept pushing me asside. 30 secs later a friendly Prowler runs me over. The Vangaurd driver said he was going to /appeal me for cheating. I have no idea what happened. :(

[00AgentDuck]

Maybe he didn't go run you over fast enough, you have to be going quick enough to run people over, if your not your just hurt them or push them aside. The prowler was probably going quick enough to run you over.

[ghost018]

When zoomed in with a Sniper scope you can see the infiltrators when they move, especially if they run, and all one really would have to do is lead on them or shoot into nothing when they stop to kill them. Being on the giving end, I don't really know if thats a "hack" but being on the receiving end it pisses me off when I get killed.

ghost

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by 00AgentDuck
Maybe he didn't go run you over fast enough, you have to be going quick enough to run people over, if your not your just hurt them or push them aside. The prowler was probably going quick enough to run you over.
No they were both full speed. I don't know, it just happened.

[Flammey]

I don't know about cheats. Never use them in any game, can't stand them or the people who need to use them. There is no skill in cheating. I like to play a game enough till I get skillful at it. There have been times when I can't see a cloaker even though he is moving at top speed, and other times I can see them as clear as if they were visible. I only recently started using DL. I once got accused of being a , and I quote, "Gay Lagger Bitch", Unquote, simply because I killed one guy 4 times in a row, 3 as a cloaker, and one with a Mini-Chaingun. I never lagged once when I killed him. I told him, don't complain to me, complain to his computer or to the server. That shut him up. I've also been accused of cheating because I came out of spawn tubes and killed 3 guys. They said they could not see me, so they didn't fire. It wasn't my fault. I ping great, and hardly ever get Packet loss, and rarely FPS lag, (which I don't understand, as I have a ati9700pro and my setting on medium.) I don't know why anyone would waste their money on a game and then rob themselves of the natural experiance of the game by cheating. It's like with Medal of Honor:Allied Assault, the biggest piss off in that game is the many cheaters. My buddy gets his rocks off by playing with all of them, and kicking their @sses. Me, I can't stand playing with cheaters. Would you want to play with or against someone who can't play a game unless they cheat? I say if you need to cheat, don't bother playing. But that's just my opinion.

[Veteran]

Cheaters help the devs discover and remove loopholes, and they do it for free. For no profit, they actually wind up helping defeat themselves. Sounds like justice.

[Flammey]

I guess that's a good point.

Strike one up for that man!

Flammey - Emerald

"Hi. My name's Forrest, Forrest Gump."

"No body gives a ***** shyt who you are, puss ball. Get on the Galaxy. What do you think this is? Camp. Your in the Vanu now."

"seats taken." "taken" Can't sit here."

It started looking like joining the Vanu was a bad ideer.

[Piith]

just last night (yesterday morning for most of you) twice I was shot down by mosquito, but this skeeter was different then any other I have seen, kuz this one you could NOT see, not once did it show up on my radar (mini map) and it never missed . 1st time it ahppened I thought, dang lucky he caught me at 20% armor, and figured it was a good pilot, sice I could never shake him/her off me, but the second time, I took noticed that they could not be seen, visual or on radar, that made me suspicious of Cheats right there.
I would not say I am a good pilot, and have seen some good pilots, and you can still get a visual at least a couple times before being shot down, and you'll always see them on the radar(not contiuosly,but they will appear).

there will always be cheaters out there, be it a game, job,sport. they will always be there, they are no different then theives, and should be treated as theifs were many century's ago, cut off with their hands ;)

[Mejwell]

I just shot someone, and he didn't die! WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THAT?

[Aegis]

I've personally seen an invulnerable pounder MAX waste and AMS with 50 or so NC around it shooting him, then turn around and kill the 50 NC one by one, in open terrain being pounded by about 30 phoenix's multiple rocklets, decimators and Jackhammers, i was the last to die, my adv targetting showed he was undamaged, but i kept firing at his back until i ran out of ammo, then ran up and started knifing him, still no effect, then he got me. I tried to message him, but got 'that player is not currently online' yet i saw him again two minutes later. Eventually he seemed to disapear and the TR fortunes were changed by this one pounder cheat not being there.

[Piith]

I am curious if there is some lag issue, or something about that. just a few moments ago I came behind this dude with a Sweeper Shotgun and he took 0 damage from me, I too have adv targeting, and nothing was happening, but just as he spun around and killed me, one of my empire mates killed him. more then once did I see this, it is like some can be killed by some PPL but not by others. There was one time I did this kamikazi run in, and I took no damage ran right through and past them , turned around then I was killed. it is like if I am runing straight at them I can not be killed sometimes, till I stop, then Bang Bang your dead.
another thing I've seen . . .
I am not sure if this was lag or Aimbot . . I saw this dude running with a MCG, but was shooting towards his left from the direction he was facing, I have seen that many times, that they are shooting another direction then the one they are running in, seen it from vehicals too. But like I said I am not sure if some of it is just plan ole lag or if it is acttually a aim bot.

I need to remember to take screen shots

[WritheNC]

I was reported by 3 TR the other day while on Searhus because I used surge while running up tower stairs spamming a lasher.

I killed all 3 of them(2 were guarding cc, the 3rd was hacking), and started getting tells because I was cheating. They said I was invisible and using a lasher etc. etc.

Ironically, earlier that night while gunning for my friend's Vanguard, we started getting shot up by a magrider we couldn't see, as well as the damage indicators not giving us any direction. Luckily I laid down 20 mines in a base and we ran inside, and they followed us and died normally, blowing 6 mines.

I think people being invisible is some sort of bug because people spawn invisible all the time and supressor the crap out of you.

I'm not really worried either, since SOE is famous for the ninja banz0r. They won't give a reason or any sort of notification. You'll just try to login and it'll say, "You've just been banned, dickhead! Call this number so we can defamate your character! Hahaha!"

Course, with the free trial and all...argh.

[Madcow]

On Friday night the VS had a hack on one of our bases and a small group of us (maybe a dozen) went to resecure it. The only person guarding the cc was some guy in agile with a supressor, no hidden cloaker healing him or anything when you check with DL. He killed the first 2 people who got into the room, and I didn't think much of it. My buddy ran in with an MCG and got wasted, and I was a few seconds behind with a Cycler. I must have put at least 25 rounds in him before I dropped. I never did /appeal because I decided I had to come up against him one more time in a situation that I was positive he should have died before doing that, and I ended up never crossing paths with him again even though I was trying all night.

[noxious]

Originally posted by Lonehunter187
No they were both full speed. I don't know, it just happened.

I believe this is a result of you being in front of the tank on your system, but no one the tanks system. Since hit detection is client side (hence the plethora of bumper kills when you were clearly not in front of the car) it doesn't kill you, instead it simply pushes you along.

[Mudflap]

Heck, I've had invisible Magmowers take me out, invisible peeps with shotties, laid 6 decimators into a MAX and he still killed me. I've even had times where I spawn, pull out my thumper to change ammo, put it back so I can run faster, and suddenly, I got a direct hit and a kill, even though I never shot.

The game is buggggggggy. Oh well, it's still fun.

[gonnagetyou]

I was once hiding inside on of the stairs on the wall trying to heall myself and was killed by a sniper. I was watching both doors and neither of them opened. Just bang! I'm dead.

I tend to think it was probably just lag. I probably was shot running across the courtyard, but it took a minute or so for the kill information to reach my machine. I've had similar situations happen and I can easily see where it's probably just a packet delay. Packet loss/delay between machines can cause all sorts of wierd problems. Just the nature of online gaming.

[SandTrout]

I've shot an agile 6 times with the mag-scatter at point blank(as infil) and he turned around and killed me.

[Valcron]

OrgeX

Is by far the biggest cheater I've seen. Far and away he is cheating.

[BigTexas]

Sometimes when you have a lot of packet loss, it will look to you like you have killed your enemy, but they will just turn around and shoot you. However, sometimes, the packet will actually make it to the server and the player will die maybe 15 minutes later from what appears to be an invisble player, but was actually the shots that you fired 15 minutes earlier finally reaching them. Happens to me all the time, even with 0.1% packet loss.