Knives

[air_head1]

One of my favourite weapons are knives i especially love them in SOF 2 so i was wondering on how leathal knives will be and if u will be able to throw knives?

[Guardian AngeL]

they are probably lethal but i don't know if you can throw them but it would be sweet if you could

[Sputty]

Why would a knife be more lethal than a bullet though?

[SandTrout]

It could be more leathal because you can have cyberneticly ehnanced muscles behind it in combonation with an increadably sharp edge or chainsaw.

In reality, just to make them somewhat useful.

[Moloch]

why? because a bullet may pass right through your body, or hit a nonlethal area, and may not put you into shock, or cause massive bleeding. A chain blade will shred alotta flesh, and cause MASSIVE trauma by severing so many nerve ends. An amazingly sharp knife like the MAG cutter will cause a line of damage, severign arteries and also makes a bigger wound. The force blade would prob just cut thoguh armor and flesh like butter, going deep into the body for some mondo organ damge, but would cauterize small wounds, inducing less trauma. It's also easier to hit an enemy in your face with a knife than an assault rifle.
It would be nice if you could attach a knife to an empire specific rifle only and thus if you ran into an enemy, it would inflict knife equivalent damage.

[SteveDemers4]

Knives do that whole:

-Stab in back realism of instant killing because its sensitive, and you get that whole critical damage because its to the back, and not to the guys front?

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Knives are great because without them... how could we stab the infamous lake of death? :D

[SteveDemers4]

lake..? of death?? what?

[Sandtaco]

:lol: True, but throwing a knife would do nothing, most people will be wearing armor. You'd have to throw the knife pretty damn hard.

[SteveDemers4]

lol

next thing you hear is some moron suggest you plug the end of the knife into the freakin gun, and shoot it.. its been done, CS suggested it, stupid idea...

[BLuE_ZeRO]

/me crosses off knifegun from PS update request list.

How bout a knife... cannon? :eek:

[Navaron]

i want a knife bomber, and knife jetpacks

[BLuE_ZeRO]

and an overpowered knifesniper rifle. :lol:

[Diego]

lol

[Sputty]

Knife pie!

[Hamma]

Dont know what the second mode is for knives :(

[Moloch]

Knife throwing is impossible, but going by the description, knifes would penetrate armor with substantial force, such as running into somebody. However, considering that bayonets are rarely used now, its a bad idea. Merely a suggestion for a topic. I do want to know more about the knives, because melee weapons are always nice, merely because of the coolness. If people join the TR because of cool colors, I will stab people because of coolness. Slitting throats would not be un-useful for infiltrators, like the shocklance in T2, so much fun, to kill snipers with that..

[Sputty]

I think the second mode for knives is just a stronger attack, isn't it?

[Moloch]

I'll bet it is knife quiche.


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[�io]

Originally posted by Sputty
I think the second mode for knives is just a stronger attack, isn't it?

:nod:

[cujoman39]

A knife hits with a force 10x times the force of a bullit. first the steel hits then the force of the hand following threw.

plus since everyone is going to have at least a ceramice plate beneth s bullet proof vest, slashing would be useless only a good stab would penetrate most armor(i mean come on its the future the knifes point should be an atom thick), and the secondary attack should be attacking with a running start like a bayonet charge, it would at least be funny.

[Sputty]

A bayonet would be funnyl on some weapons...I want a bayonet on the decimator

[oosik]

Knives shmives. As an engineer I just want to know if i can stick a grenade, ACE, or REK in my knife holster. Then it might be useful. Heh. AT least Rogue has confirmed that an ACE or REK will fit in a pistol holster. At least that is something.

[Vimp]

Use a knife and ya get a good dealing of damage. But I dunno whether its lethal considering that they included a secondary mode inless they expected ones to use the secondary mode only if hitting in the back wasn't a viable option or the target is in heavier armor then the light stuff.

However the secondary mode from what I gathered is simply applying energy to the knife when used and its draw backs are that it makes alot of noise due to the energy use. BTW the noise thing is for sure, I didn't just make that up. Its possible that description was only for the Vanu knife. Not sure.

[Sputty]

I think the sound is Vanu only

[CDaws]

Dio your never going to live down Hamma drowning in that lake are you? :lol: As the knife thing goes primary would probably be just a quick slash or a hack then the secondary would be a slower forcefull stab or jab that does more damage.
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[Vimp]

Heres the quote from the PSI site's unofficial faq where I got that info.

Do melee weapons (knives) have secondary modes?
Yes. All empire specific melee weapons have secondary modes of various types.

Are there any drawbacks to using the secondary mode of a knife?
Yes. When secondary mode is activated, the knives generate noise. This is not the best way to sneak up behind someone.


So from that I don't think its a Vanu only disadvantage. However I seem to recall also, maybe wrong about this one, that in secondary mode your swing is slower as well.

[Zanzibar]

Originally posted by Moloch
Knife throwing is impossible, but going by the description, knifes would penetrate armor with substantial force, such as running into somebody. However, considering that bayonets are rarely used now, its a bad idea. Merely a suggestion for a topic. I do want to know more about the knives, because melee weapons are always nice, merely because of the coolness. If people join the TR because of cool colors, I will stab people because of coolness. Slitting throats would not be un-useful for infiltrators, like the shocklance in T2, so much fun, to kill snipers with that..

the first thing that you traiin in in the british army is use of the bayonet-mainly for aggression etc but also it is used for survival-the bayonet and sheath can be used for a great no. of things such as wire cutters or reflective mirrors

[Moloch]

yes, they are good for wire cutters and such, but reflective mirrors is useless as the armor has a renewable energy source, and apparently sends a signal to NC high command showing them where they are. Also, if the knife blade was atome thin (like the ones being developed now with lasers) it would cut through anything.