Terran Armors up

[Incompetent]

w00t www.terranrepublic.com

they are only on the enlist page for some reason

[avail]

Look good :D

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Wow :sarcasm:

[Civilian]

All I see on the page is the female light armor, but it's easy to get the rest:

Male light:
http://planetside.station.sony.com/images/teams/terran/soldiers/thumbs/TR_thumbs_male_light.gif

Female light:
http://planetside.station.sony.com/images/teams/terran/soldiers/thumbs/TR_thumbs_female_light.gif

Male medium:
http://planetside.station.sony.com/images/teams/terran/soldiers/thumbs/TR_thumbs_male_medium.gif

Female medium:
http://planetside.station.sony.com/images/teams/terran/soldiers/thumbs/TR_thumbs_female_medium.gif

Heavy:
http://planetside.station.sony.com/images/teams/terran/soldiers/thumbs/TR_thumbs_male_heavy.gif

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
Wow :sarcasm:

[Airlift]

Horray! Maybe this marks the beginning of the next media glut! Which could possibly mean it's almost time for the B word....

[�io]

Holy crap, those are some nice armors there guys! Glad i'm not wearing some weird purple armor!!


:D

[Hamma]

Excellent. :D

[Venoxile]

On your sig, hamma, it shows a terran with a visor, whats with that? Also, what gun is that in the PSU pic above the forums at hte top of the forum page? The one int he NC guys hands aimed at the "camera".

[Warborn]

His signature and other pics around the site are all outdated.

That said, the Agile ("light") armor looks average. Their Standard armor looks... er... yeah, well, anyway, their Reinforced ("medium", as it's called above) armor looks good. Except for the legs on the Male version. They're a bit skinny. And the Infiltration Suits are OK, too. Not as good as the Vanu, but better than the arc-welders in blue slacks that the NC have infiltrating places.

Oh, and, I sincerely hope all Terran women aren't intensely masculine like the one they used to model the armor. When I first saw her in the Standard armor I had thought that they accidentally stuck the Male Standard pic where the Female Standard one should have gone.

[Navaron]

Nice to see they beefed up those little pea shooters on the MAX, now it might hurt something.

[Hamma]

My sig has ancient screens in it, now that we have all the newer stuff hopefully we can get some new sigs going and perhaps new forum banners

[Guardian AngeL]

Terran Republic rocks! :sarcasm:

[NapalmEnima]

I wonder if that's the AA or the AI.

And I wonder if we'll get more renders of the different MAX configs...

[Da King]

Oh yeah now I know why they held those so long because....... Um they're by far the best
:rock: :father:

[FireFrenzy]

Those are so so fugly. I feel like im looking at www.uglypeople.com when i look at them. I mean i'm not doing another empire bashing thing, because i like alot of the NC ones (me being vanu), but man are those narsty looking things. And the MAX? Looks like a farking sea diving suit, cmon now...

[Sputty]

I think new MAX looks alot better with the good guns than the dinky old TR MAX.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Looks like the devs got a little too "goggle happy" with the TR suits :huh:

[Sputty]

Go goggles!

[Da King]

:stupid:

[Hamma]

I like the goggles myself :brow:

[Sputty]

They're not bad...A little weird. Ho useful cn goggles be?..Well I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Guardian AngeL]

Goggles are ugly:eek: they look like this:cool:

[avail]

Originally posted by Civilian
All I see on the page is the female light armor

You do realize that if you click on the picture of the female light armor it will open up a gallery of them all..... right?

[Sputty]

Or click on the arrows...

[diluted]

havent read thru post so shhh:


nothing spectacular - the MAX looks cool tho with the gigantic guns.

[Sputty]

The old MAX's guns were really weak looking.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Do the TRs get a choice of non goggle faces or are they all goggle happy? :chomp:

[Diego]

Wow... Those are um.. Great...

(Go NC.) :)

[BLuE_ZeRO]

they have nice... colors...

[SandTrout]

The TR stealth suit it painfuly unoriginal. It doesnt even cover their face like the other 2.

Though the new MAX guns look like they could hurt something badly, I have to say they are intencely oversized. This leads me to belive that they are the "pounder" heavy grenade launchers or flack cannons. Either way, they are majorly fugly to me.

Their Rein armor looks good, but their standard is just, well, yeah.

[Camping Carl]

I really don't like the look of those bulgy helmets on the light armors. They really look like russians to me. Tho the stealth suit is the coolest-looking of the three, and that max suit just looks awesome :drools:

[Lexington_Steele]

Whats wrong with russians?

[Camping Carl]

I just don't like the look of helmets that bulge up way past the top are someone's head, they just look dumb.

[glsauron]

*Laughs*

Well, if looks alone would win this war...we wouldn't have to worry about the TR :)

[Warborn]

How do they look like Russians? They really don't look like Russians anymore than they look like Americans or Canadians.

[Camping Carl]

Their faces, their uniforms, their colors, and their system of government. They look like russians to me.

[Navaron]

Damn it all, what is with these NC (I'm NC mind you) and their damn obsession with forcing a nationality on a faction. Russians are anglo just like most Euroupean countries. If you put an American beside a Russian, the only difference would be their bad shoes, and that kinda sickly eastern euroupe look.

[Camping Carl]

I'm not necessarily NC. I'm 50/50 between TR and NC. And you'd have to be crazy to think that the terrans were not based on communist russia.

[Khortez]

Again technically speaking, Russia is not a true communist state. And how is the TR like Russia? I would think it would be more of an imperialist America.

[SandTrout]

The TR is simmilar to the USSR in that it wears red, and has a totalitarian hold on it's people. It requires them to register where they are at all times, and it suspends the rights of assembley and free speach forcefuly.

The TR can realy be commpared to any totalitarian state in history, but as the USSR is the most known one, and the TR wear red, it gets that reputation often.

[Camping Carl]

Again technically speaking, Russia is not a true communist state.

Why does this matter? The comparison is still valid.

And how is the TR like Russia? I would think it would be more of an imperialist America.

Policing every movement, controlling people's lives? With a motto of "Loyalty untill death!"? I don't think so.

[Khortez]

This is going in the way a thread from the official forum looked like, so I'm just going to drop the issue without starting a flamewar about governments and economies and such.

[Led]

Led no likey!

[Warborn]

Policing every movement, controlling people's lives? With a motto of "Loyalty untill death!"? I don't think so.

Yeah, policing movement is stupid. Same with controlling lives. The alternative of having to go through lengthy investigations to solve murders and whatnot is a far better alternative than "The Man" knowing where Joe Blow went for dinner. Sarcasm aside, if you've got nothing to hide, who cares if they're keeping track of you. Unless you plan on doing something illegal, you're fine.

The TR is simmilar to the USSR in that it wears red, and has a totalitarian hold on it's people.

You have no idea if they're totalitarian or not. Having heavy internal security does not constitute controlling virtually every aspect of one's life.

Also, the red on the Terrans is a secondary colour. They're primarily charcoal. Not to mention that the British Redcoats also wore (gasp!) red.


It requires them to register where they are at all times, and it suspends the rights of assembley and free speach forcefuly.

Dangerous ideas should be eradicated. And, no, nobody should be entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Once a standard of right and wrong is achieved, it should be enforced.

And you'd have to be crazy to think that the terrans were not based on communist russia.

They actually seem more like the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000 to me.

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by Warborn
Dangerous ideas should be eradicated. And, no, nobody should be entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. Once a standard of right and wrong is achieved, it should be enforced.


That leaves the question of "Dangerous to who?"

Anyways, back on topic, I hope the NC MAX's rocket launcher is the size of those 2 grenade launcher combined. After all, isn't NC(politics asside ;)) all about dealing a powerfull first blow?

[FireFrenzy]

FFS can we have a topic that doesnt lead to politics?

[Ouroboros]

Ugh... I don't understand zee goggles...
Are TR eyes' more sensitive compared to the VS and NC?
Oh, and anyone know if the bullets drop like in BF1942 or do just just sort of stop after going a certain distance? And is crouch the only position, or can you go prone? Prone please! :confused:

[Khortez]

I don't think the bullet thing has been stated, but I would think that after a while the bullet just stops, they have a range at which they can be shot at. Oh and you can't go prone.

'It burns! The goggles, they do nothing!'

[Ouroboros]

DAMN ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY! :flamemad:
Arg, what kind of a sniper :sniper: doesn't go prone...
Arg... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Warborn]

That leaves the question of "Dangerous to who?"

Vicariously, the stability of the entire race. Want to know what happens if the Vanu or NC were to win? Civil war, and given the rebirthing technology, it's likely that the war would last for years, and years, and decades, and centuries. And the presence of a challenge to the Republic would cause some to defect to whomever won on Auraxis, and then you'd have splinter groups breaking off and fighting their own war against the other groups. Etc etc. Planets would declare independence, and all the prosperity that was would be lost to the worst kind of war.

Are TR eyes' more sensitive compared to the VS and NC?

Part style, part effectiveness. The eyes are really the most important part, and I sort of doubt that the little visor the NC and VS have will stop a bullet anymore than your bare, unprotected face would. In fact, the lack of a visor would save you from having glass fragments embedded in your face if a bullet should hit you there. Naturally, your face will still be a bit scattered due to the bullet impact, but hey, it could be worse.

[avail]

The helmets remind me of those retarded looking moped helmets.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by Warborn
Vicariously, the stability of the entire race. Want to know what happens if the Vanu or NC were to win? Civil war, and given the rebirthing technology, it's likely that the war would last for years, and years, and decades, and centuries. And the presence of a challenge to the Republic would cause some to defect to whomever won on Auraxis, and then you'd have splinter groups breaking off and fighting their own war against the other groups. Etc etc. Planets would declare independence, and all the prosperity that was would be lost to the worst kind of war.



Part style, part effectiveness. The eyes are really the most important part, and I sort of doubt that the little visor the NC and VS have will stop a bullet anymore than your bare, unprotected face would. In fact, the lack of a visor would save you from having glass fragments embedded in your face if a bullet should hit you there. Naturally, your face will still be a bit scattered due to the bullet impact, but hey, it could be worse.
ARGH!!!Please no more politics. It hurts my delicate/semi-blind eyes!

[Warborn]

Politics? I'm not talking politics. I'm talking fictional game world stuff.

[Sputty]

There's a chance it could become that easily. More than one person started to talk abotu things like that and that'
s how the other things started up.

[Zanzibar]

<cofto khortez> imperialist britain u mean. america has neva been imperial. it ddnt have an empire (well ok now you wn england but hey)
i love politics eh?!!!shame that all the modern politicians are egotistical money-grabbers.
BRING BACK CHURCHILL!!!:nazi: :nazi: :nazi: :nazi:
lol

[Guardian AngeL]

i hate politics:mad:

[Sputty]

Want to join my force to destry all politicians to bring a new form of control over the Earth?...Wait a minute...damnit!!! That's political...well, back to learning to read! I'm trying really hard.

[Warborn]

Don't try and make real-world comparisons between the Factions and our nations and you're fine. The Terrans aren't Britain or America or the Soviet Union. They're the Terran Republic.

[Sputty]

Yep..

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Warborn
Vicariously, the stability of the entire race. Want to know what happens if the Vanu or NC were to win? Civil war, and given the rebirthing technology, it's likely that the war would last for years, and years, and decades, and centuries. And the presence of a challenge to the Republic would cause some to defect to whomever won on Auraxis, and then you'd have splinter groups breaking off and fighting their own war against the other groups. Etc etc. Planets would declare independence, and all the prosperity that was would be lost to the worst kind of war.



Part style, part effectiveness. The eyes are really the most important part, and I sort of doubt that the little visor the NC and VS have will stop a bullet anymore than your bare, unprotected face would. In fact, the lack of a visor would save you from having glass fragments embedded in your face if a bullet should hit you there. Naturally, your face will still be a bit scattered due to the bullet impact, but hey, it could be worse.

Alright, i'm sick of people saying whats realistic and whats not, there is no realism in this game, there arent even freaking headshots, you can put 10 bullets in a guys head and it'll do the exact same damage as if you put it in his foot. There are no skills, just massive sprayfests, and not even a little bit of combat realism.

There isnt even skill in taking down aircraft, for all the weapons require you to do is wait to lock on, and then pull the trigger.

[Camping Carl]

:nazi:

[CDaws]

Originally posted by Venoxile
Alright, i'm sick of people saying whats realistic and whats not, there is no realism in this game, there arent even freaking headshots, you can put 10 bullets in a guys head and it'll do the exact same damage as if you put it in his foot. There are no skills, just massive sprayfests, and not even a little bit of combat realism.

There isnt even skill in taking down aircraft, for all the weapons require you to do is wait to lock on, and then pull the trigger.


If you think you don't need skill then you'll love playing. As far as the damage model goes im not sure about that. I would thing that a headshot dosen't do the same damage as a shot in the leg.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by {BOHICA}SpecialOpRanger
If you think you don't need skill then you'll love playing. As far as the damage model goes im not sure about that. I would thing that a headshot dosen't do the same damage as a shot in the leg.

they've already announced there will be no body part damage system. A footshot will do as much as a headshot.
It's the reason why i'm probably not going to get the game. I just hang around here hoping for them to change it.

[The Prudential]

Venoxile, I've never heard that headshots don't do more damage. I think you got bogus information. Also, not all weapons lock on. Generally speaking only the most advanced anti-armor or aircraft weapons lock on. Some of the MAXes also lock on, but not all of them. The vast majority of weapons do no lock on.

As far as whether or not the game will have 'no skills' and just be a 'sprayfest', there's absolutely no one way you can say that with any sense of surety. The majority of the people on these boards have not played the game. I have no reason to believe you have so making accusations that the game will be a sprayfest and require no skills is simply ludicrous.

Also, I doubt you've been in combat, so how in the world would you know what combat realism is?

[Sputty]

A spary fest would be pretty useless. Battles wil be huge and require acdcuracy even if there is no region specific damage.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by The Prudential
Venoxile, I've never heard that headshots don't do more damage. I think you got bogus information. Also, not all weapons lock on. Generally speaking only the most advanced anti-armor or aircraft weapons lock on. Some of the MAXes also lock on, but not all of them. The vast majority of weapons do no lock on.

As far as whether or not the game will have 'no skills' and just be a 'sprayfest', there's absolutely no one way you can say that with any sense of surety. The majority of the people on these boards have not played the game. I have no reason to believe you have so making accusations that the game will be a sprayfest and require no skills is simply ludicrous.

Also, I doubt you've been in combat, so how in the world would you know what combat realism is?

Well, all i did was look at the facts.
First, the cone system will force players to stand still while firing if they want any hope of hitting anything. Second, Hamma has said to be i think twice that there is no body part damage system. Any shot anywhere will do equal damage, for they don't want hackers having advantages by designing aim bots.
This equals= People standing in a field spraying or bursting at eachother while standing still until one man of the people spraying at eachother dies, or a tank comes and blows one of them up.
In my opinion, the only way to have skills with each body part=same damage is the unreal tournament way, meaning perfect aim while moving, because this makes it much more difficult to hit runners. And would bring a lot more chaos to the game.
You'd also see more people charging eachother in battle, instead of people shooting at eachother from great distances because the man who stays at his post has the advantage of having a good aim over hte rusher.

[Camping Carl]

TR = commies
NC = hippies
VS = scum

[CrazyMike]

First, the cone system will force players to stand still while firing if they want any hope of hitting anything.

Not true. It depends on how they fine tune it. Yes it's possible you are correct, but if the devs handle it right there is no reason this can't work. Implemented correctly yes, there would be an advantage to standing still or crouching from a pure accuracy point of view. The trade off is YOU ARE STANDING STILL. I've played in plenty of games with a COF and there are times you should stand still and times when you sacrifice accuracy and keep moving.


CrazyMike

[Venoxile]

Have you seen any of hte vids? They show that if you start moving at the fastest pace (holding down a or d or w or s) the cone will expand to very large and at practically any distance you have a 5% chance of hitting anything. And if you fire in bursts, or if you hold it down, the cone will get gigantic while moving.

[Camping Carl]

I saw the dutch e3 vids, my god those weapons were innacurate! I sure hope they've fixed that!

[Venoxile]

Doubt it... it's how the game was meant to be played. We can always ask Hamma though.

[Camping Carl]

Doubt it... it's how the game was meant to be played.

Stop it, you're scaring me! :scared:

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Camping Carl
Stop it, you're scaring me! :scared:

Yeah, I find it kinda ignorant that all these people are asking about the most complicated situations etc, when no one knows about the most basic shit in the game. Aka the aiming system, or about the body part damage system.
So far what they've shown us of the aiming system is horrendous, and what hamma has told me of the body part damage system is it doesnt exist.

[Lexington_Steele]

Why is the aiming system horrendous???

It is a cone of fire and the cone gets larger when you move, shoot, get shot and such. The cone gets smaller when you kneel. Different weapons will have different cones.

Whats wrong with that?

[The Prudential]

Aiming system horrendous? That's an opinion, not a fact. Actually, I would prefer an aiming system where you have to at least slow down to hit anything more than five feet away. People taking time to fire at one another isn't that bad, it's more like real warfare that way. Also, this prevents people from 'bunny-hopping' and then pegging a crouching sniper with one shot.

As far as all body parts being equal, well if it makes the game more fair I think I can live with that. I would prefer to have headshots do more damage, but if that will keep cheating down I can live with it.

Yeah, I hate it too that we're asking about the most complicated stuff too. Man, whoever heard of having conversations for entertainment value. Gosh, that's a stupid concept.

[SandTrout]

I dont beleive that removeing headshots will make people hack less, just hack less effectively. The jackasses that think its fun to hack will hack weather or not there are headshots, you still have to aim

An aimbot can be used to aim at any part of the body you want it to. Head, chest, crotch, or whatnot.

The fact that the bullets take time to reach thier targets will help a whole bunch against any hacker who wants a bolt-driver(sniper weapons are the mainstay of hackers in games like counterstike). This aspect also makes it tough on normal snipers weather they're useing a BD or AR, nd I think that being able to hit someone in the head should be rewarded.

Hitboxes can also be used to balance certain weapons such as shotguns. If you hit someone in the chest with 1 shot from the sweeper or jackhamer, it might not kill them, but if you have the reflexes to blow their head off, that should be rewarded.

Certain measures should be used to prevent aimbots though. In Half-life(posibly the most hack-plauged game out right now) there are 2 types of cheat prevention. There are programs such as HLguard that screen your harddrive for certain files associated with hacks. Then there are programs such as Cheating Death (http://www.cheating-death.com) (AKA: C-D) that work with the HL engeine to dissable cheats, even if they are runing. Programes like C-D require occasional updates as hack-producers find out how they work, and go around it, but this is a lot of time and effort.

There are ways to prevent cheating, but the most effective ways are the hardest to do.

[The Prudential]

Yeah, I really hate hackers. I just don't understand it. Why would you get pleasure beating someone while you were cheating? That kind of defeats the whole point of the game for me.

You're right about Half-Life though. You always know a dude's got a cheat on, when you get hit in the head from 100 meters by one shot from a greasegun! :)

[Warborn]

Yeah, I really hate hackers. I just don't understand it. Why would you get pleasure beating someone while you were cheating? That kind of defeats the whole point of the game for me.

I think it's a superiority thing. Sort of like people who TK you. They want to piss you off, and through the magic of the Internet, they can. And they just can't get enough of it. Some guys cheat to be the absolute best at these games, some people constantly drive their vehicle into you, and some guys will spend hours a day doing nothing but trying to kill their own team, or at least ruin the fun for as many people as possible.

[SandTrout]

Until the magical, godlike, Admin comes on with his Ban command.

I think most hackers will eventualy get caught and banned by the customer service guys. not 100%, but enough so that people wont want to waist the money on a game to get banned.

[Led]

I just hope the admins will run actual tests of some sort to determine whether or not the person really hacks. Would really suck to get banned because someone got all pissy because you were able to outshoot them on a consistent basis :D

[darkfireknight2]

Hello all, i'm backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. Did you thought your meaningless quibs could keep me away Dio? Anyway as far as the armor goes well what is with the lack of sharp edges and the frog man masks? oh! yeah and lets not forget the sterioticical villian type bubble on there head of the MAX suit ? Anyway lets insult the Vanu now. Or as we call them the gay alliance of Auraxis. They wear purple the international gay pride color and if you connect the points of their symbol, it = an upsidedown triangle. There armor is styrofoam with christmas lights strung around it. The answer to Humma's lake connundrum is simple kill all the vanu dump there bodys in the lake and voila! instant styrofome bridge.


"The Vanu are like a fungui, ulgy and a minor annoyance, but with the proper equipment easil delt with." Vladimir host of Vladmir's fun hour. Big Time Soviet Childrens TV Show


:blowup: :father:



P.S. For all the Vanu who wish to insault me for this post I would sugest starting a new thread as there there will be a lot of you.

[Camping Carl]

A deliberate flame, but it's enjoyable to see the vanu get what they so richly deserve. Darkfireknight will likely be roasted alive for saying this tho. :D

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by SandTrout
I dont beleive that removeing headshots will make people hack less, just hack less effectively. The jackasses that think its fun to hack will hack weather or not there are headshots, you still have to aim

An aimbot can be used to aim at any part of the body you want it to. Head, chest, crotch, or whatnot.

The fact that the bullets take time to reach thier targets will help a whole bunch against any hacker who wants a bolt-driver(sniper weapons are the mainstay of hackers in games like counterstike). This aspect also makes it tough on normal snipers weather they're useing a BD or AR, nd I think that being able to hit someone in the head should be rewarded.

Hitboxes can also be used to balance certain weapons such as shotguns. If you hit someone in the chest with 1 shot from the sweeper or jackhamer, it might not kill them, but if you have the reflexes to blow their head off, that should be rewarded.

Certain measures should be used to prevent aimbots though. In Half-life(posibly the most hack-plauged game out right now) there are 2 types of cheat prevention. There are programs such as HLguard that screen your harddrive for certain files associated with hacks. Then there are programs such as Cheating Death (http://www.cheating-death.com) (AKA: C-D) that work with the HL engeine to dissable cheats, even if they are runing. Programes like C-D require occasional updates as hack-producers find out how they work, and go around it, but this is a lot of time and effort.

There are ways to prevent cheating, but the most effective ways are the hardest to do.

To me, the developers have no right to take away headshots, because they're too lazy to battle hackers. If we're paying 10-15$ a fuckin month for this, I expect headshots, and I expect the developers to give their full attention to hackers.

[Camping Carl]

Headshots take skill to get. Getting rid of them closes the gap between noobs and godlike people, which is not a good thing.

[Sputty]

Originally posted by Venoxile
To me, the developers have no right to take away headshots, because they're too lazy to battle hackers. If we're paying 10-15$ a fuckin month for this, I expect headshots, and I expect the developers to give their full attention to hackers.
They obviously have the right. Also the never hd headshots in the game so they never took anything away. SOE has been battling hackers for years and hve been successful most of the time. Headshots ren't in the game because it would allow certain weapons an advantage but if tehy were to pu tthem in they'd have to redesign alot of different things that would take way too long.

[SandTrout]

Originally posted by Sputty
They obviously have the right. Also the never hd headshots in the game so they never took anything away. SOE has been battling hackers for years and hve been successful most of the time. Headshots ren't in the game because it would allow certain weapons an advantage but if tehy were to pu tthem in they'd have to redesign alot of different things that would take way too long.

They have thre right to not put in hitboxes, but I think this would be a mistake for the parketing of the game. I'm not a great shot, so I usealy aim at the chest unless I'm snipeing. I still think that headshots should be implemented, maybe not on a 1-shot kill with an AMP, but somewhat increased damage, and/or increased accuracy penelty to the target.

Yes, certain weapons would be taken advantage of becase of headshots, but isn't that the essence of haveing different weapons? You have weapons that snipe, scatter, and spray bullets. Why shouldn't some of those weapons be effective in the hands of "Godlike" people but useless to a newbie gamer? This is not a game made by Marx, this is a game that is based on skill and reflexes. True, the MMO part adds stratagy to the formula, but you have have the best statagy in the game, and loose because your squadmates couldn't hit the broad-side of a deployed AMS.

They wouldn't have to redesign a whole lot in the game, just adjust the fire-rates and/or damage done by some of the weapons.
That is not terribly hard to do and is done quite often by moders in other FPS games.

[Venoxile]

I agree, I'm not picking this one up if they dont put in headshots...

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Quit your whining. Headshots aren't the be all end all of this game. It has alot going for it and if you are going to whine about one aspect don't play it.

[RabidPlatypus]

Venoxile you're an idiot 12 year old who's obviously never held any sort of gun in his life. I challenge you to shoot accurately with ANY gun running as fast as you can. The truth is that you can't, even the best of the best in real life situations stop running to fire. You can go back to your unreal tournament with perfect aim while zooming along at 30 miles an hour because if you can't even understand a little concept like a crosshair cone this game obviously isn't for you.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
Quit your whining. Headshots aren't the be all end all of this game. It has alot going for it and if you are going to whine about one aspect don't play it.

One aspect off the game??? Shooting people is one aspect of the game? What hte hell else is there? Buying weapons? Going in troop transports? Gaining points by shooting people?

[RabidPlatypus]

Originally posted by Venoxile
One aspect off the game??? Shooting people is one aspect of the game? What hte hell else is there? Buying weapons? Going in troop transports? Gaining points by shooting people?

He meant the lack of hitboxes being one aspect of the game you cunt.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by RabidPlatypus
Venoxile you're an idiot 12 year old who's obviously never held any sort of gun in his life. I challenge you to shoot accurately with ANY gun running as fast as you can. The truth is that you can't, even the best of the best in real life situations stop running to fire. You can go back to your unreal tournament with perfect aim while zooming along at 30 miles an hour because if you can't even understand a little concept like a crosshair cone this game obviously isn't for you.

Ignorant son of a bitch, read what I say next time. Christ, I said that if you're not going to put in headshots you might as fucking well make it unreal tournament style with no cone, for there is no hope of realism, just massive spraying. So if you wont read my posts and flame me fuck you you fucking dickhead.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by RabidPlatypus
He meant the lack of hitboxes being one aspect of the game you cunt.

God, the lack of headshots/hitboxes/damage systems is the entire system of shooting people besides the cone system, you gay bitch. I'm tired of you flaming me, go fuck off.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

Headshots are not what shooting is all about. You can still hit them just because there aren't headshots. Quit being so damn retarded and actually look at what you're saying. You're making it sound like the only reason you're going to play this game is if there are headshots. What's wrong with hitting someone in the chest? This isn't just a rack up as many kills as you can kind of game. Headshots are really useless unless you're trying to get a bunch of kills fast.

[RabidPlatypus]

thanks for proving my point that you obviously know nothing about fps' outside halo. The fact that you think it will become a giant spray fest because of recoil and the CONE shows how ignorant you are. There are little tricks you can use called "aiming" in order to hit your target instead of just spraying, you can also fire in bursts to lower the recoil and make your shots more accurate. It still takes PLENTY of skill to do this, especially on mid-long range targets.

[RabidPlatypus]

Originally posted by Venoxile
God, the lack of headshots/hitboxes/damage systems is the entire system of shooting people besides the cone system, you gay bitch. I'm tired of you flaming me, go fuck off.

What the fuck? There is still AIMING involved you idiot, do you think it takes skill for a lucky bastard to randomly spray and ACCIDENTILY hit your head instantly killing you? No, it takes a lot more skill to actually kill them without the good-fortune that a wild bullet will hit your enemies head.

[Venoxile]

I know nothing of fps' outside of halo? I've played every fps since 1993. I've gone from doom to quake to rainbow six to unreal to golden eye to half life to counter strike to halo to ut 2k3.

And i mean the 5 rainbow six games counting the expansions, and i think 5 of the quake games counting the expansions.

edit: I left out the wolfensteins, my apologies.

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by BLuE_ZeRO
Headshots are not what shooting is all about. You can still hit them just because there aren't headshots. Quit being so damn retarded and actually look at what you're saying. You're making it sound like the only reason you're going to play this game is if there are headshots. What's wrong with hitting someone in the chest? This isn't just a rack up as many kills as you can kind of game. Headshots are really useless unless you're trying to get a bunch of kills fast.

I don't agree with you on the headshots uselessness, headshots allow skilled players to take down other grunts at minimal damage intakes, and allow newbs to get very lucky every once in awhile. Either can take place at any given moment.
But i really dont want this game to be just strategy/vehicles... I'd prefer grunts to have a chance to take down players fast as they would in real life... if they have the skills to do it.

[Sputty]

This isn't Q3 or UT. It's not a kill fest. It's a MMOFPS with a pretty big spawn time to even out the game. Allowing deaths that quick would be annoying and make it impossible to attack as the snipers would headshot everyone pretty easily because thy;re fighting other soldiers in the fields. And this game needs strategy to be played well at all.

[RabidPlatypus]

Originally posted by Venoxile
I don't agree with you on the headshots uselessness, headshots allow skilled players to take down other grunts at minimal damage intakes, and allow newbs to get very lucky every once in awhile. Either can take place at any given moment.
But i really dont want this game to be just strategy/vehicles... I'd prefer grunts to have a chance to take down players fast as they would in real life... if they have the skills to do it.

this game isn't about individual skill, its about teamwork. Maybe you ARE looking into the wrong game.

[Sputty]

If you're not ready for tamwork you should stick to UT 2K3

[Venoxile]

Originally posted by Sputty
If you're not ready for tamwork you should stick to UT 2K3
I don't play UT2k3, i play CS in Cal-o. Lotsa teamwork there...

[SandTrout]

Not running and guning is a way to slow down combat to the point that people will acctualy be able to use something called stratagy. This is not a fragfest, this is a squad based tactical shooter that has gigantic servers.

This game might not be your cup of tea, and you don't have to buy it.

The lucky headshot thing is why I say that it souldnt be 1-hit kill if shot in the head, but it should still do more damage.

[Sputty]

Everyone's been trying to tell Venozile that but he doesn't seem to want to listen.

[Hamma]

Chill out with the flames or i lock this thread. Thanks.

Consider this a warning, you know who you are.

[Sputty]

GO TO HELL!!!!!:lol: Just kidding

[Navaron]

Damn it people, go back to your own official forums if you're going to be assholes. Stop flaming already or hamma is going to lock the thread and then this damn site will go down the tubes like the official ones. I don't want that. So grow up or go away. Better yet, don't, and let hamma ban you. I'd like that.

edit: Sorry hamma, come on, break out some ninja nazi action!!! You can doooooo iiiiiiiiit!

[Sputty]

If you're talking to me about my "go to hell" post I was very much joking and said so in the post. If not then ignore this post.

[Navaron]

*ignores post*

[Sputty]

Yay :clap:

[Lexington_Steele]

I, for one, will miss having different damage for different body parts.

Head shots are sometimes luck, but I would say that they are usually not. Getting head shots usually separates the great from the good.

Doesn't anyone find it a bit disconcerting that you could be nailing someone in the head over and over and they kill you with nothing but leg shots?

How about a sniper killing you with a single shot to your left toe.

[Sputty]

Id onm't think there are one hit kills.

[The Prudential]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think we'd all prefer if head shots were in the game, however, if they are not it will not ruin the experience for me. Also, as far the comment on head shots making it more realistic is not quite right. In modern warfare very few people get deliberately shot in the head. Military snipers do not aim for the head. They aim for the chest and the heart.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Sputty
I don't think there are one hit kills.

If you are in the noob armor, the bolt driver is a one hit kill weapon. Unfortuantely it seems like that one hit could be to a limb. :(

[Sputty]

Hopefully it'll be hard to hit people with the bolt-driver.

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I don't think they're going to make it that hard to hit people. It's a sniper rifle so you should at least be able to use it correctly. This thread doesn't need to turn into a sniper thread though. :(

[Sputty]

Didn't mean to try to amke it one.