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User58
2003-09-07, 07:28 PM
The game is unplayble on two counts, the graphic glitches, which seem to be a mystery subject here... Not to mention the lag which is impossible. For $50.00 US, I would expect something that has some degree of playability. They got my $50.00, and they got one month subscription fee. That is all they will get.

I had all of online "customer Service" I can stand. I won't go into details, suffice it to say it was cursory as best.

I signed the petition and Sony sucks.

I will say that the people in this forum are helpful and friendly. For that I thank this community. Back to BF 1942!

Xxzard
2003-09-07, 07:34 PM
come on unless you have a 56k RAM you can turn the grapics down and you're fine, i just find the graphic glitches funny if people hit a rock and fly into the air and get stuck:p

TR_Exit
2003-09-07, 07:39 PM
what is ur system specs?

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 07:52 PM
If you tell us your true sys specs then we can see if it was woth playing....

MilitantB0B
2003-09-07, 08:50 PM
Um... Ok... Thanks for keeping us posted. I still enjoy the game, but much like everything else, it is not for all. Good luck in the future.

JetRaiden
2003-09-07, 08:50 PM
I have an Alienware Area 51, nuff said.

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 08:54 PM
Alienware is nice but over priced.....

MilitantB0B
2003-09-07, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by SecondRaven
Alienware is nice but over priced..... Indeed, just build it yourself, why pay thousands for what you can build for hundreds?

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 09:04 PM
Im getting the best config in my mind for 2500...

3.0 Pentium 4 (HT)
2 Gigs 3200
80 Gig HD
GeforceFX5900 (256)
19'Sceen
KLIPSCH ProMedia 5.1 Speakers

only for 2500 much better then a Alienware that would run at over 3000 for that config

MilitantB0B
2003-09-07, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by SecondRaven
Im getting the best config in my mind for 2500...

3.0 Pentium 4 (HT)
2 Gigs 3200
80 Gig HD
GeforceFX5900 (256)
19'Sceen
KLIPSCH ProMedia 5.1 Speakers

only for 2500 much better then a Alienware that would run at over 3000 for that config Sweet fancy Moses! You trying to find the end of pi with that thing or what? Lol, didn't think anyone actually bought machines like that. :D

Oh, by the by, I have those speakers, they rock. :rock:

User58
2003-09-07, 09:20 PM
XP Pro SP 1

Asus A7V 333* mobo
Athlon 1900+ cpu (233 fsb)*
512M PC2100 (Crucial)
80G Maxtor Plus 9 HD (7200 rpm)
ti 4200 Geforce4 (64M)
Audigy 2 sound card

DirectX version 90.0b
NVidia driver v 45.23

DSL connection: 635 Up/ 135 Down actual speed.

I upgraded the DirectX and the Vid card driver after setting up a restore point.

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 09:22 PM
Hmm well the specs are not that bad but could use some more RAM, oh and BTW MilitantB0b clean out your PM messages i cant send any

ghost018
2003-09-07, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Originally posted by SecondRaven
Alienware is nice but over priced.....
Indeed, just build it yourself, why pay thousands for what you can build for hundreds?

If he did that then he wouldn't have an Alien logo on his case, keyboard, and mouse.....:lol:

ghost

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 09:34 PM
Darn.....

User58
2003-09-07, 09:36 PM
I strongly doubt that more ram would fix the situation. Thanks anyhow though.


:D :D

SecondRaven
2003-09-07, 09:38 PM
RAM is the key to PS.....the more RAM you have the beter

Flammey
2003-09-07, 09:49 PM
He's right, and here's why....

128MB's of RAM go straight towards your video card being run. This is only for the higher end AGP cards, or seems to be. That leaves you only 384 MB's to run the game. Don't ask me why a video card needs 128 MB's of RAM, but I think I remember it saying it needs it for the software to run the card.

I have 1 gig of DDR. My game runs fine 90% of the time. I still get low FPS, but that's because I am greedy, and I want some of my graphics off.

For the sake of the game, turn Flora off, turn Weather off, Turn Shadows off. There's more to turn off in the advanced section. I only have Soldier, weapons, vehicles, and buildings on.

There is more that you can do to clean up your video problem.

PallarAndersVis
2003-09-07, 10:04 PM
what did they put flora, shadows and all that extra shit int he game if no one can ever use it? they really just need to suck it up and fix the damn game engine. its pathetic. theres no reason someone should get a gig of ram and the highest end graphics card just to run this game

Veteran
2003-09-08, 12:15 AM
My old computer (home-built) was always spontaneously rebooting and blue-screening (when playing Planetside, installing Service Packs, you name it). It was p4 2.53, Radeon9700pro, 512mb pc3200, Soyo p4x400 Dragon mobo, SBLive 5.1 PCI sound.

Anyone got an insight into this? I want to reanimate it for minimal cost.

Flammey
2003-09-08, 12:23 AM
2 Possibilities that I can think of..

1 - Worm

2 - Driver Issue. IE Sound card driver, video card driver. I have the most up to date sound card drivers, and I have a Audigy 1 X-Gammer and it crashes my computer sometimes.

The computer will sometimes reboot in order to save itself. This isn't exactly a crash. You'll know a crash, because WIndows will try to send the crash info and analyze it.

Veteran
2003-09-08, 12:36 AM
I formatted the drives, made them into a RAID array, formatted them again, and again and used a wide variety of drivers. I kept getting "Memory fault in non-paged area" and I'd get checksum errors a lot on downloads.

A real mystery.

My new machine is a Dell, 2.4Ghz, Radeon 9800, 1.5gb pc2700 and ran me about $800. Planetside runs for hours on end with no crashes/artifacts/glitches, so the original poster probably doesn't have a monster PC.

Still, I'd like to resurrect poor old "Crashy".

Flammey
2003-09-08, 12:42 AM
My mystery is that I keep getting numerous CRC errors. I can't install certain games, like Hitman 2. I almost wasn't able to install PS, but I kept trying, and it finally installed without any errors. I've even gotten a few I/O errors. I think the only think for me to do is to take my computer in to be looked at, but I don't have the money, and I don't want to be without a computer. I don't own a TV, so the computer is my main form of entertainment when I'm on nights off.

Veteran
2003-09-08, 01:00 AM
That sums up my problem, except I had the spontaneous rebooting crap, and endless page faults. I had to make several attempts to install PS, and it ran for hours flawlessly, but then began a downward spiral where it would reboot and bluescreen more and more often, until it was useless.

For those who proudly announce that everyone should build their own system, don't forget Murphy's Law or the value of a warantee.

I had an MIS/Master Programmer friend of mine help build and attempt to troubleshoot Crashy and it still wound up in a box in my closet.

Free Crashy!

Flammey
2003-09-08, 01:04 AM
Uh, this is what I do. Every day before I play I create a System Restore point. That's for Windows XP users. It's in the System tools folder. Basically, it's like taking a picture of your computer. When something goes wrong, you restore to point, everything is back to before the shit hit the fan. I have to do this for Diablo 2, because occassionally, my music, not ingame music, but when I just start the game, and I'm signing on Battle.net music, it just vanishes. So I have to go to restore point before it happened, and it's fine for another few plays.

ajohn505
2003-09-08, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by User58
I will say that the people in this forum are helpful and friendly. For that I thank this community. Back to BF 1942!

Cya later. MMOFPSs will be ready in about 2 years. This one sucks.

Veteran
2003-09-08, 01:22 AM
Or perhaps it shattered your image of yourself as a skilled gamer?

User58
2003-09-08, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by Veteran
Or perhaps it shattered your image of yourself as a skilled gamer?

If you want to play a game that will shatter the image of yourself as a skilled gamer, try Independence War 2. It has spaceships that fly like spaceships are supposed to fly in a 0-G environment, not like airplanes in a 1-G environment like Star Wars has ingrained in our heads. Give that one a try...

PS is, after all a FPS. So that is no more challanging than any other in that regard.
What's challanging about this game is figguring out a way to shoot someone when your frozen in lag. This games reach exceeds it's grasp. It sounds like everyone has to turn off a shitload of graphic settings. These people sound like thay have more powerful machines than mine. I am a bit overdue for an upgrade so I'll fiddle around with more ram and revisit this game sometime soon. But for now, I just don't have the time to rebuild my fucking system just to play a game who's requirements I met when I read the side of the box BEFORE buying it.

Like I said earlier, this is a lively forum with helpful folks in it. What I fear though is that since this game is just a few months old is that it will steadily lose players like it's very close to losing me. This "Core Combat" expansion will likely be another nail in it's coffin. People are expected to shell out more money on an expansion when the original release isn't working properly? Doubtfull. Fix the leaky roof before you install new carpet.

Veteran
2003-09-08, 07:51 AM
I was directing that caustic remark to the guy who said PS sucks, not the original poster. See the post above.

Nimbus
2003-09-08, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by Veteran
That sums up my problem, except I had the spontaneous rebooting crap, and endless page faults. I had to make several attempts to install PS, and it ran for hours flawlessly, but then began a downward spiral where it would reboot and bluescreen more and more often, until it was useless.

For those who proudly announce that everyone should build their own system, don't forget Murphy's Law or the value of a warantee.

I had an MIS/Master Programmer friend of mine help build and attempt to troubleshoot Crashy and it still wound up in a box in my closet.

Free Crashy!


I remember reading about problems like this before on another forum. It was being caused by settings in the bios not matching the actual hardware settings and was essentially overclocking one or more of the componants. I'm guessing you already checked that but just in case....

Pilgrim
2003-09-08, 09:48 AM
Another thing to always check if you are getting constant reboots is bad ram! Especially if you BSOD.

What I always suggest is go out and crad a good stick of 512 (match it to what else you have) pull out any other RAM sticks you got, and try it with just one new one. If it works replace the others.

Things I've done to fix this kind of problem (I kid you not!)

Reorder RAM in the slots... strange but works.
Opened the Case for cooling, lots of problems with comps are heat, not os


As to the orriginal poster, you have an almost identicle Rig as I do (untill I upgrade later this week) The big, and I do mean BIG differences are that I have double your video and system RAM.

Not even for PS, but as a suggestion, save up $170 or so and get 1gig of Kingston pc 2700 that mobo will support it (same mobo I run) When I did that the performance I got on EVERYTHING went through the roof. Well worth it and not that expensive!

PAX

Mudflap
2003-09-08, 10:11 AM
Heck, my system specs rock (P4 2.53, 512MB, GF4 Ti4600, Audigy2, IBM Deskstar 80GB), but I would freeze alot, especially when entering large battles. It drove me nuts, and people on these forums told me to get more RAM. I blew them off thinking that 512MB was more than enough.

I was building a system for a friend though, and stuck the 256MB from his system into mine just to see. Holy crap that makes all the difference. Suddenly, I spawn in the sanctuary, and when I walk through the spawnroom door to the outside, there is NO lag whatsoever. The game became 100% playable, so I highly recommend that you try more RAM before you blow the game off.

And yes, IW2 rocks, except for the fact that the last level is almost impossible to beat for some reason. I think maybe my playstyle doesn't fit it so well. When I blow up those damn glowy things, they always set off a mine......ug!

Veteran
2003-09-08, 11:21 AM
Nimbus,

Thanks for the great advice. My technomancer friend who helped me build the system also suggested underclocking it, but PS had just been released, so I bought a new system to be sure I could play it (a little manic, I suppose, but I have no regrets).

I'm going to pull Crashy out of its coffin and perform a few arcane rites upon it. If it works, I promise to kill a NC in your honor whenever possible, and to execute Vanu more painlessly in the future.

Nimbus
2003-09-08, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by Veteran
Nimbus,

Thanks for the great advice. My technomancer friend who helped me build the system also suggested underclocking it, but PS had just been released, so I bought a new system to be sure I could play it (a little manic, I suppose, but I have no regrets).

I'm going to pull Crashy out of its coffin and perform a few arcane rites upon it. If it works, I promise to kill a NC in your honor whenever possible, and to execute Vanu more painlessly in the future.

Good luck, I really hope it works for you.

Indecisive
2003-09-08, 12:58 PM
"Memory fault in non-paged area"


Sounds to me like your ram is fubared.

Listen to Hunter.

User58
2003-09-11, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Mudflap
Heck, my system specs rock (P4 2.53, 512MB, GF4 Ti4600, Audigy2, IBM Deskstar 80GB), but I would freeze alot, especially when entering large battles. It drove me nuts, and people on these forums told me to get more RAM. I blew them off thinking that 512MB was more than enough.



I just realized my little-bitty vid card is shot. I have had my case open for an hour now and I can barely keep my finger on the upper heat-sink. Just ordered a ATI Radeon 9800Pro and am looking seriously into the A7N8X with about a Gig of Corsair PC 3100 or something Ram. If I build it right I should be good to go. PS is very demanding.