Common Pool Max

[MilitantB0B]

Practically every weapon system in Planet Side has both Common Pool and empire specific types, why not MAXs? Does anybody think that making a common pool version of MAXs might help all the MAX nerf complaints?

[Peacemaker]

Tis a good idea. It would also add a little more stratigic element to the game. Just preping for one type of MAX is a bad thing if theres two versions running around. Maybe an all around Max, it does decent damage against infantry with its guns, and it has 2 shot rkt/ missle launchers for veh and aircraft.

[Phaden]

This is an intresting idea. i def like the all around idea better than 3 new ones, less testing for devs maybe?

[VashTheStamped]

common pool max would rock
have a max that you cant nerf cuz everyone can have it lol

[dscytherulez]

Hmmm...yes this is a good idea, did you post it on the OF's yet? Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the devs will take notice of it. Im optomistic ok?

[Phaden]

yeh i would def love to see this get implemented, maybe in the free content are?? Cross the visuall between a terran and a NC one.

[Warborn]

A cool looking melee MAX would be, uh, cool. The fact that it'd be common pool would allow them to deviate from standard MAX look, as they wouldn't need to stick to a previously established template for the MAX (as in, the wouldn't need to make it look all rounded and fruity, because that's how the other Terran MAX's look). It would give them some more artistic freedom, and could therefore create something really neat to fit a melee style MAX more effectively.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Practically every weapon system in Planet Side has both Common Pool and empire specific types, why not MAXs? Does anybody think that making a common pool version of MAXs might help all the MAX nerf complaints?


No, doing something abont that worthless NC "special dis-ability" sheild, would help about all my MAX complaints!!! ;)

A common pool MAX that is a all rounder, with no special focus on anti-air/vechical/infantry.

[nonentity]

You couldn't have an 'all round' MAX unless it was fairly crap against everything (but could take everything on), because otherwise there is no point having the other MAX suits.

I do think a common pool melee max would pween (give it a lightsabre that does quite a lot of damage).

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by nonentity
You couldn't have an 'all round' MAX unless it was fairly crap against everything (but could take everything on), because otherwise there is no point having the other MAX suits.

I do think a common pool melee max would pween (give it a lightsabre that does quite a lot of damage).

It would obviously not be as effective as the "specialist" MAX units, but it would be more effective in fighting the parts the specialist MAX's dont specialize in.

Just to make it more balanced really, as i hate it when im in a NC sparrow, and get attcked by 3 nmy ground troops and they top me cos my rockets seem to do little damage against them...

[Indecisive]

Yeah maybe balance them and give them 3 diff weps, or maybe 2, but dont let if have a special ability? just it armor?



of course who fucking cares im not getting a max until the striker cant lock on to maxes. thats fucking gay.

[Queensidecastle]

There already is a all-around-MAX. It is called the Sparrow and the runner-up is the Dual Cycler


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[TheRegurgitator]

Here's an idea.

The reason it was common pool is because it was used during the thign before war... nvm i was thinking like a drill on one arm that was used for something in the past but now if u run out of ammo it has that to kill people with and then they've mounted a gun on teh other arm

[Otis]

Picture this, a melee MAX, like Warborn said. It would have more armor than all other MAXs. Something like a giant sword for an arm, a built in REK, and it can deploy 5 explosives. This would be great for defense. You could go into a CC, deploy the explosives, hack the CC, and wait. The extra armor will be needed since you would fight in hand-to-hand combat most of the time.

Edit: And Gohan theoretically it should lock on to MAXs. Their solid metal with high quality weaponry. They're a lot like vehicles. The striker is ANTI-vehicular.

[Knuckles]

A common pool MAX?

- I like the idea!

What about if they built its weaponry on a beefed up Punisher? That is - it would be able to shoot both bullets and rockets/grenades (albeit at a slower pace, due to reload after each missile). You'd also be able to swap between normal AI and AP ammo for the rifle(s).

Instead of having a special ability it would have an additional 50 armor points. It would be an all purpose MAX, (hopefully) without being overpowered.

What do You think?

[Indecisive]

Edit: And Gohan theoretically it should lock on to MAXs. Their solid metal with high quality weaponry. They're a lot like vehicles. The striker is ANTI-vehicular.

Its fucking cheap that what it it.

I can deal with the vehicle lock on. I can even deal with the stupid ass air vehicle lock on. But max lock on? hell no. just hell no


vehicles have a chance to atleast get away because of their armor and speed. I steped out of my base the other day and was dead within 5 seconds because the tower was at a higher altitude then the base i was at. Its. fucking. gay.

[Acaila]

Give it a powerful melee weapon (a big fuckoff chainsaw would pwn :p) and have it with built in BANK, Nano Dispenser and medical applicator and have the ability to use deployables. Sort of like a support class max. Make eng/med the prerequisite for it. Advmed and CE would be needed to use ACE and revive people.

[NoSurrender]

noooo knuckles had the best one [quote] A common pool MAX?

- I like the idea!

What about if they built its weaponry on a beefed up Punisher? That is - it would be able to shoot both bullets and rockets/grenades (albeit at a slower pace, due to reload after each missile). You'd also be able to swap between normal AI and AP ammo for the rifle(s).

Instead of having a special ability it would have an additional 50 armor points. It would be an all purpose MAX, (hopefully) without being overpowered.

What do You think? [quote]
Edit: shit i suck at makin quotes and etc can some1 pm me with way 2 make quotes

[BDMJ]

I think it would be very cool to make its ability a slightly faster movement/turning speed. The best weapons for a melee max are big powered claws. Ideally it would have a fast fire rate, and do enormous damage to soft targets. I'm thinking damage on the order of a sniper shot per hit. The damage against maxes would be reduced so it wouldn't just get behind them and tear them a new one. The damage versus vehicles would be non-existant (except for the lightning, which is pwned by harsh language). Because it wouldn't use ammo, its backpack could be accessed by friendly troops like a locker to store equipment.

I think it would be awesome to see two of these maxes muscle into a base and just rip everything to shreds. When they are done friendlies walk up, get banks out of the backpacks, and repair the maxes. It wouldn't be too unbalanced that they are instant kill versus infantry and nearly as mobile because they would be useless outside.

[Searo]

Very cool idea, I like the Claws.

Prereqs should be 2/3 of your empires MAX certs.

Ex: Jim has a Scatter and a Sparrow, he can now buy the Mauler (cool name) for 3 CP.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Queensidecastle
There already is a all-around-MAX. It is called the Sparrow and the runner-up is the Dual Cycler


Errr... noooo... the Sparrow is NC only and its great against aircraft, only just mediocore against vechicals and someone with a lasher can easilly take it out.

The Dual Cycler is TR only and is great against infanty, not bad against vechicals, but explain to me how its supposed to deal with aircraft ?????....

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But the melle max is a good idea. It would have to be faster though, probably at the cost of armor. It could have claws (like wolverine), and maybe a REK ?.

Or, as a better idea : it would be an armor type, with built in retractable claws. The suit only allows for a very small carry capacity, so you could only carry small arms, no medium or heavy (so you could carry a medical / REK / regen).

I would dearly love a stealth suit with claws, and a built in REK, and thats it, ontherwise it would be too deadly!

[Gilgamesh]

I like the idea of a common pool MAX, all those ideas you guys come up with reminds me of RoboWars on tv.

Any how a coomon pool would have to be general use, general damage, and the best Ammo i think it could use is the "rockets"

We already have Beam/plasma/Bullets/ Nades in maxes only thing really missing is a rocket launcher max.

The rockets seem to have uniform damage.

In other words its basically a max with Rocklets.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Gilgamesh
I like the idea of a common pool MAX, all those ideas you guys come up with reminds me of RoboWars on tv.

Any how a coomon pool would have to be general use, general damage, and the best Ammo i think it could use is the "rockets"

We already have Beam/plasma/Bullets/ Nades in maxes only thing really missing is a rocket launcher max.

The rockets seem to have uniform damage.

In other words its basically a max with Rocklets.

I was thinking more like a pulse lazer. Something that fires a single beam shot (has zero travel time from gun to target), twice per second. Same fire rate as the Jackhammer, but has a medium range and fires/looks like a red beam version of a turret shot.

[Knuckles]

I think that Gilgameshs idea is excellent!

Should be easy to implement. No hassle!

Give us a Rocklet MAX!

[dymetrie]

Errr...

Rocklet Max.....?

Sparrow?

Are we understanding yet?

Dym

[Knuckles]

Are we understanding yet? Nope.

Different projectiles.
Different ROF.

Sparrow = target lock on aircrafts.
Rocklet = no lock (what so ever).

Sparrow = AA specialist, with decent splash damage giving it decent AI and (supposedly) negligable AV damage.
Rocklet = Multi purpose rocket.

Sparrow = NC only
Rocklet = Common Pool

[Queensidecastle]

Shadowseed, its pretty clear from your post you either havent played all the MAX suits in extensive combat, or you are just talking out of your ass.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Queensidecastle
Shadowseed, its pretty clear from your post you either havent played all the MAX suits in extensive combat, or you are just talking out of your ass.

And you base this on what, numb nuts ?

[ShatterStar]

Common pool max would be a worthy addition to the game.
(im picturing something like out of appleseed)with a heavy punisher weapon(for AI and AV) and two TOW missiles on its back(for AA)

well,thats just my thoughts:)

[Indecisive]

only thing really missing is a rocket launcher max.


falcon.

sparrow.




NEXT CASE

*bangs gaval*

[Queensidecastle]

And you base this on what, numb nuts

Your apparent lack of knowledge on what the capabilities of the Sparrow and Dual Cycler are. You obviously dont have a clue how fast and easy Dual Cyclers bring down mossys and reavers by your own statments. Shall I go on?

[Celia]

Shadowseeds assessment was pretty accurate. A DC Max can only drop a reaver or a mosquito if he is both locked down (which we know how safe that is outdoors) and the flyer is hovering in place. Even then you have to fire in bursts due to the range. Any flyer that gets dropped by a DC Max was either already heavily injured or was not movin.

[Happy lil Elf]

No, DCs rip through vehicles, land or air. So do Falcons as a matter of fact. The difference is the DC is a much higher projectile speed which means if you're any good you can shoot down aircraft. Not nearly as easy with the other two Empire's AV MAXs. Can you take out libs at the flight ceiling? No, of course not. But you can shred that mosq flying slow over the base or near the tower to scan for hostiles or that Reaver coming in slow to unload a ton of rockets into your AMS.

[BDMJ]

Everyone knows that big power armors with gigantic claws are one of the few things missing from planetside. In fact 9/10 experts agree that claw maxes would utterly own the competition in terms of coolness.

Honestly how cool would it be to see two of these things charging down a corridor, ripping every soldier apart that gets in their way, while at the end of the hall two grunts are frantically trying to bring their decimators to bear on the max before it reaches them! Pure chaos!

[SandTrout]

Alien tech MAX maybe? That may be too much like Vanu though

I like the idea of a beefed up punnisher, but with rockets and bullets only instead of swtiching between grenades too. The extra armor would copensate for no special ability. Make the bullets somewhat higher damage than the standard 9mm rounds with about the same fire rate as a punnisher. The rockets should be faster moveing(but similar damage) than the rocklet/punnisher rockets. maybe 1 rocket ever 1.5 seconds.

[WildEagle]

A c p MAX would be great but what would it have as weapons and how many would tere be? Also do u think that the empires need more MAXs or somethin I'm gonna make a thread that asks what u think wopuld make ps better.

[dymetrie]

OK,

Have you paid attention....

If the sparrow is not locked on...

It is a dumb fire rocket launcher....

Or are you just jealous Vanu Scum?

Dym

[Eldanesh]

Yeah, Sparrow really is like using rocklet as a max with the added bonus of a 12 shot clip, lock on to aircraft, and 650 armor. (badass for 2 certs) Pre-lasher nerf I could regularaly take down 1-2 lashers before loosing all my armor. Each sparrow missle does (I think) ~50 damage a shot to enemy maxes I think it is also about a 4-5 shot kill on infantry IIRC, so not all that different from a rocklet other than the clip+ the massive sky-clearing.

What I would like to see in a common pool max? How about a current max with no empire abilities and no hard-wired gun. No pistol slots, just 1-2 rifle slots (I am thinking 1) All this for 2 certs.

What do you get?
Tough armor
More versetile than current Maxes
Not one-man killing machine,but still can hold its own and make appreciable impact
Cheap cert cost similar to the fashion of infiltrator

What can balence?

Cannot drive, cannot heal/repair/hack as per all maxes
Maybe slightly less armor than E-S maxes due to versitility
Balence-pass should make AV maxes better than CP Max with ES AV ( I hope)


Reinforced exo is currently the toughest infantry armor and with 2 pistol/2 rifle slots and it would still be more versetile than the CP max. 2 certs+ having to buy your own weapon certs should balence somewhat. (CP max + jackhammer may be nasty and better than scattercannon, but at least would cost about 8 certs vs the scat's 3.)

I just like the idea of Unreal 1-2 heavy armor more than I like the idea of in-game gundams.

[MuNsTeR]

that would be cool if you could have each type of common pool max with a really cool specialty

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