View Full Version : non-happy 9-11 stuff.
Nimbus
2003-09-12, 01:10 PM
Alright, I really hated to do this but there was so much shiznit flying in the 9-11 thread I felt I'd better start this. Plus I wanted to respond to Hamma and not get hit with the ban stick. Anyway. If you have any problems, disagreements, bitching or flaming about 9-11 do it here in this thread.
I shall start
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Originally posted by Flammey
I didn't think it was a tragedy. I think it was a conspiracy to get support for war.
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That was cold bro, but you can think whatever you want. It is your brain afterall, just know I feel bad for you.
I've actually heard this quite a bit. See, the Vietnam war was fought by the US for pretty much the sole purpose of bringing us out of the recession. War normally has a positive impact on the US economy and there never was a plan to win Vietnam. At the time of the bombing, we had been in a recession for a while and it didn't look like we would be coming out soon. Bush's tax cuts weren't working. As tragic as 9-11 was, it wasn't hard for some people who remembered Nam to jump to this conclusion.
A little more than a year before this event my economics teacher (also an ex army Lieutenant) predicted that we would be out of the recession within a year, and if we werent there would probably be a war. Lo and behold, he was completely accurate.
Please note, these are not my feelings on the war and 9-11, this is just what I've been told by those who DO believe it.
Onizuka
2003-09-12, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Nimbus
shiznit
:eek:
Seriously, I don't think this is such a hot idea....... could get nasty. What flammey said, that it was a conspiracy, is total bullshit. Sorry man :tear:
Nimbus
2003-09-12, 01:14 PM
Hey, I know about the possibility of this stuff. If Hamma or other mods want to take this thread out, they can. I'm putting this up so we have a place where people can talk about this away from the other 9-11 thread if they feel they have to.
Indecisive
2003-09-12, 01:14 PM
Ya know 9-11 killed like..what 4 k people?
more then 10k a year die from drunk drivers.
Onizuka
2003-09-12, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Gohan_VA
Ya know 9-11 killed like..what 4 k people?
more then 10k a year die from drunk drivers.
they killed themself or were stupid enough to get in the car. plus, these were all innocent people, they all died at once, and it brought down the pride of one of the biggest cities in the USA, sending debri for miles destroying churches etc.
Pilgrim
2003-09-12, 01:21 PM
The conspiracy theory is just kinda stupid.
Honestly we're in a recession, but comming out. So we'll do a couple of hundred billion dollars of dammage to turn it around and prolong the recession for another 2 years.
Brilliant.
It was a conspiracy, but not of Americans.
Hamma
2003-09-12, 01:33 PM
There are always conspiracy theorys.
Usually they are ignorant :rofl:
Happy lil Elf
2003-09-12, 03:07 PM
Flammey actually said that? Wow :rofl: Jesus, where do people come up with shit like this? :lol:
And no we didn't fight in the Vietnam War to bring us out of a recession. There were many reasons but no one said "Hey! I know! The ecomony is in the crapper so lets send a bunch of kids to their deaths in a stinking jungle.".
GonePostal
2003-09-12, 03:33 PM
non of us are truly innocent (in that brain food kinda way)
but seriously non of us are innocent, and thousands are senselessly murdered every day
thousands are born each day
were all going to die sometime
Nimbus
2003-09-12, 03:40 PM
Conspiracy theories like this one tend to run rampant with some of the more unhinged liberals out there.
One of my roommates was very very very anti-war and set up all kinds of anti-war rallies and such.
Anyway, some of his "friends" had similar theories which they expressed with wild gesticulations and a feral look in their eyes.
No disrespect to Flammey I don't think he's a rabid hippie but some of these guys sure were.
Indecisive
2003-09-12, 11:37 PM
they killed themself or were stupid enough to get in the car. plus, these were all innocent people, they all died at once, and it brought down the pride of one of the biggest cities in the USA, sending debri for miles destroying churches etc.
Lol you misunder stand my meaning for the quote. No one should drink and drive, not even hamma's l33t truck.
I dont care at all the the fucktards who drive their cars into a post or something, im talking about the ones who get hit BY the drunk drivers when they are in their own car.
But, as pointed out, i forget the exact measurement but i thought it was like every 6 seconds someone is born and every 10 someone dies.
Yeah. Think about that.
Death is just the next stage to life.
MilitantB0B
2003-09-12, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Gohan_VA
Death is just the next stage to life. Wait till someone close to you dies unjustly, then say that again.
Flammey
2003-09-13, 06:43 AM
Yes, I said conspiracy. I was joking. But think of it this way. What BETTER way do you know to get support for a war? Think about that for a moment before you start flaming me, and telling me I'm a cold shit.
Flammey
2003-09-13, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by MilitantB0B
Wait till someone close to you dies unjustly, then say that again.
I CAN say that. I can also say I've watched someone close to me wither away to nothing.
Indecisive
2003-09-13, 11:45 PM
Wait till someone close to you dies unjustly, then say that again.
My grandmother has died. My father was an inch away from dieing. Neither was of natural causes.
I know i am a crappy christain, but i am one. Which is where i get my values from. So, thats where i get my values from.
But, i can also see where you are coming from. If some flaming piss hole shot and killed someone close to me. It would be sad. Very sad. But, like i said before, i believe stongly in the values of my religion, and know where i and my family are going.
Now, im staying out of this thread. Peace.
GonePostal
2003-09-14, 12:01 AM
aye you are a shitty christian indeed
ObnoxiousFrog
2003-09-14, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Gohan_VA
Lol you misunder stand my meaning for the quote. No one should drink and drive, not even hamma's l33t truck.
Holy shit, a reference to PSU's Most Underappreciated Topic!
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