People bitching about the JH now? Wait till core combat...

[Caspertoo]

I had a thought, if core combat is supposed to be "urban settings", enclosed spaces and the such, won't this give the NC a huge advantage. This being because now at least you can try to keep your distance from the jackhammer users (basically every damn NC player, lets face it, what NC'er doesn't have heavy assault) but if everything is urban setting, like the inside of a base, well your just about fubar'd. He'll I guess I better go make a NC character.

After all its not like the numbers lie right now, NC for the most part always has the numbers over the TR and god help those poor poor bastard VS's. You just gotta feel sorry for em.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
I had a thought, if core combat is supposed to be "urban settings", enclosed spaces and the such, won't this give the NC a huge advantage. This being because now at least you can try to keep your distance from the jackhammer users (basically every damn NC player, lets face it, what NC'er doesn't have heavy assault) but if everything is urban setting, like the inside of a base, well your just about fubar'd. He'll I guess I better go make a NC character.

After all its not like the numbers lie right now, NC for the most part always has the numbers over the TR and god help those poor poor bastard VS's. You just gotta feel sorry for em.


Hmmm.. i think all empires will have something to benifit them.
NC: Jackhammer(run up to you unload quick 3 shots and hide.)
VS: Lasher (point down a corridor, unload 20 rounds and retreat.)
TR: Plant that MAX at one end and just start firing!.

[Caspertoo]

Best damn reply I've ever read, lol yes the lasher and pounder will have advantages too. But I don't know, the terrain seems better for NC grunts and maybe VS grunts far more than the average TR, MCG's just aren't great close up. Their kill time is 2x longer than the JH.

[shadowseed]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
Best damn reply I've ever read, lol yes the lasher and pounder will have advantages too. But I don't know, the terrain seems better for NC grunts and maybe VS grunts far more than the average TR, MCG's just aren't great close up. Their kill time is 2x longer than the JH.

I would not say that... ive just seen the screen shots for core combat. Lots of high ledges, and larger spaces. This is where the pounder would be really effective. Imagine a pounder planted on a high up ledge overlooking a cavern area. It would dominate!.

[STEALTHKILLER]

i know 1 nc char that dont have heavy assult, stealthkiller, he doesnt even have med. assult.

[Flammey]

That would explain why you have such a low kill count.

FYI, I've got AV, HA, and I've had Sniper, and SA. I've got over 2500 kills thanks to all these. I would not play ANY character without Medium Assault. Where the hell would I be without at least my Pulsar?

[321]

Well from the cave screenshots that there are I would say that it won't really be a problem. You could even put a Mosquito in there I've seen it in one of the screenshots.

[Happy lil Elf]

This being because now at least you can try to keep your distance from the jackhammer users (basically every damn NC player, lets face it, what NC'er doesn't have heavy assault).

Last time I checked Thott's site it was around 60% of NC on Emerald who didn't have HA but don't let me stop you from ranting.

P.S. I don't have HA.

[shadowseed]

I would think that HA is a *MUST* for any grunt!.

ps: I have HA

[ViperGTS]

I also dont heavy assult(ya i know i spelled it wrong)...Im happy with my gauss...i hate the jackhammer...its stupid and ugly...

[FireWolf22]

Me and my GirlFriend play. Neither of us have HA. I used it one time. Hated the JH, I killed like 5 peeps with it and died like 15 times. Most of the fighting was outside and I could never get close enough to use the JH to any good. Was up against the TR MCG and the VS lasher.

Also I don't know about the other Servers, but on Konried the TR have the numbers by far. They zerged like hell last night. Had Massive forces on forseral in 4 different bases at the sametime. Where also taking our Locked Conts with no problem last night. I know that one time I respawned in one of the bases to a camping of 30+ peeps. Three to Four were maxes. Was shot one time coming out of a tower door from 12 different directions. I counted the tracers, cause they wouldn't stop shooting the MCG's at me.

Sorry for the rant I had a crappy night last night on PS. We had 4 conts for 30 min and then the TR. I was getting pretty pissed off.

Wolf

[BDMJ]

I think the VS will have an advantage with their maxes mobility in the caverns. Even if they have weaker weapons than the TR and NC maxes (only slightly worse than the NC) their mobility would ensure them complete access to any part of the cavern. You could not run from them, and because the caverns are enclosed, you will eventually be trapped.

[Cease]

I agree with Shadowseed -- every Empire will have their advantages in Core Combat.

[PallarAndersVis]

i think the lasher will have an advantage as well. the lasher doesnt do well in outdoor fights because you pretty much need to hit the enemy dead on with the ball of energy to do significant damage, and the ball travels so slow that its really hard to do. I find it easier to hit enemies with the lasher indoors, they have fewer places to strafe

[Aen]

Hey Happy lil' Elf/whoever knows,

What is the address for that site?

[Otis]

People are saying that judging by the scren shots it won't be a porblem, do you really think they're gonna reveal the buildings this early? The Jackhammer will be a problem in these situations. Close quarter's combat is the JH's backyard. But yeah the pounder will rock, I feel sorry for the VS.

[AnimalMachine]

Originally posted by Caspertoo
Best damn reply I've ever read, lol yes the lasher and pounder will have advantages too. But I don't know, the terrain seems better for NC grunts and maybe VS grunts far more than the average TR, MCG's just aren't great close up. Their kill time is 2x longer than the JH.

Yea, but the NC have to get on top of you to get that overpowering effect. At distance the JH isn't all that hot.

And it's pretty hard to get on top of people down a hall when it's getting lash or pounder spammed.

I personally think things will be fairly even, with VS possibly having a slight disadvantage - depending on how tight the urban layout is.

[STEALTHKILLER]

stealth is going 2 get med assult but not for a while*hes my stealth char.* my courpse char is going 2 get ha as soon as possible. ive had it before and the jackhammer is okay... but its not as good as the mcg. with its 100 ammo magizne and 1 of the highest RoF in the game, it is the best heavy assult gun at med range. the jackhammer is good at pointblank. the lasher is probally the ha god-like wepon becuse its verstile at almost any range and can hit ppl behind cover.

[Red-Sam]

Never had the Jackhammer, never will with this character.

The Gauss is a very good weapon both medium range and close range. The trick is to use surge and get behind them and just hold down the trigger. (I know, it is the tactic with all weapons at close range)

Now..... if only my trusty pheonix would get buffed...

[STEALTHKILLER]

Originally posted by Red-Sam


Now..... if only my trusty pheonix would get buffed...

*hacks into the psu database 2 deleate that post so the ppl wont start complaing about that.*

[Flammey]

Ah, yes, Infiltration IS a good reason NOt to get Medium Assault. I had forgotten about that. I personally love using the JH, and I'm not NC. I pick it up whenever I can. I don't like using the MCG, simply because I'm not usually out in the open much, and if I am, I am carrying my Lancer, and I use that.

[Indecisive]

I hope that the HA weapons are less usefull in the caverns, personally.

I think that all the cover, and ledges and stuff will give peeps a reason to carry pulsar, guass, cycler, ect.


Of course, it could just be like it is now...insta death.....