View Full Version : Remove AA MAXes
Rightwing
2003-09-24, 08:02 AM
These MAXes, NC and VS alike, require NO skill, point, lock, shoot.
The aircraft is on the ground in seconds, one clip, don't give me that crap about the Striker being point and shoot, it does not have the capability to take a Reaver down in one clip, and a Mosquito in half.
The NC, lock, fire, they'll chase you clear across the continent, the VS, fire all shots, lock, you're dead before you can hit the afterburners.
I understand that they are supposed to be the best at this role, but they shouldn't be able to do it so effort-less.
If you're one of these people that gets in this MAX suits and sweeps the skies effortlessly, then don't bother flaming me.
But its ridiculous, there are at least 4 AA MAXes on every base roof, with all of them firing simultaneously, you have no chance.
Aegis
2003-09-24, 08:04 AM
Dont be daft, if they werent there everyone would have reavers.
Rightwing
2003-09-24, 08:07 AM
I wasn't actually being serious, but its really absurd.
Rarzo
2003-09-24, 08:10 AM
That's the only reason I didn't like being a reaver pilot. All of those AA MAXs on the roof of the base get very annoying.
I also agree with you about the striker. When you fire, it does lock on but by the time you reload the vehicle ran away
Doppler
2003-09-24, 08:58 AM
Wah i cant fly over the battle field and point spam run off and repair like always.
SilverLord
2003-09-24, 09:00 AM
Thats why you need to know the tricks. Get very far away and zoom in and see where the max is. Circle around and make a strafing position. Get going full speed, then after burn and shoot about 8 missiles and it should be dead. If there are multiple...Don't even try.
Bad Mojo
2003-09-24, 09:11 AM
OMG! The enemy is defending itself somehow!!!
Vernam
2003-09-24, 11:01 AM
I would just kick on my afterburners and kamikaze into them.
OMG! The enemy is defending itself somehow!!!
Exactly.
WritheNC
2003-09-24, 02:04 PM
Um...no.
I've seen some reaver pilots swoop in, kill a damaged ams or blast everyone waiting at the vehicle terminal and get out alive with 2 or 3 AA maxes standing around.
I suck at flying though. I'll never understand how they do it.
Phaden
2003-09-24, 04:03 PM
Well i gues he normal troops are just sposed to try to hose it down with guass rifles or something, or maybe hit it with the decimator when its flying past??
gonnagetyou
2003-09-24, 04:17 PM
The main mistake reaver or mosquito pilots make is staying still or slow. If they keep moving most AA MAXs will have a hard time bringing them down. Also, don't attack from a direction or height you will be expected to attack from.
I'm extremely deadly with my Starfire MAX and these are my suggestions based on what has given me problems in the past.
SandTrout
2003-09-24, 04:42 PM
To paraphase his point: OMG, why is there a unit in the game that can counter my aircraft that has more armor, firepower, and speed than a lightning tank? I need to be godlike vehicle so that I don't have to think or be skilled to be good at the game!
I vary rarely say this(if I have ever before), but STFU you dumbass newbie.
Nitsch
2003-09-24, 05:42 PM
AA max's are a joke against ground troops or vehicles. They are only good at one thing and once you are in an AA max you cant really do much else except fight planes.
TheRegurgitator
2003-09-24, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by gonnagetyou
The main mistake reaver or mosquito pilots make is staying still or slow. If they keep moving most AA MAXs will have a hard time bringing them down. Also, don't attack from a direction or height you will be expected to attack from.
I'm extremely deadly with my Starfire MAX and these are my suggestions based on what has given me problems in the past.
staying still sometimes work but going slow is very deadly
Locking on to still targets take alot of time because they aren't very easy for the missile to target because the engine heat isnt very high im an nc with sparrow and the hard thing is when they fly low because of trees and base walls moving targets just aren't much of a problem for me
gonnagetyou
2003-09-24, 07:07 PM
I haven't tried the NC Sparrow yet, but the Starfire locks onto the target as soon as you place the reticule over it. That's why slow or stationary targets are so easy to kill.
MAX units are slow to turn, so use that to your advantage. Make it hard for them to track you and you're one step closer to being a better pilot. When TR or VS AA MAXs open up on you, duck behind cover so the VS lose lock on and the TR can't hit what they can't see. Against the NC Sparrow, try and limit how long you stay in their sight. The less time they maintain lock on, the fewer missiles you'll have chasing you down.
Of course I shouldn't be saying any of this. Potentially fewer kills for me if you pilots get better.:D
aiwest420
2003-09-24, 07:29 PM
it's quite easy to evade missile locks (i've flown as NC,VS,TR).
1)stay low
2)use the terrain to your advantage
3)don't hover over a target like a newb, do mutiple runs on it, launching as many rockets as you can per run
4)always fallback,repair when you get hit by an AA max. i wouldnt be able to count then number of times i've escaped with 10-20% armor after an encounter with an AA max
DoomWarrior
2003-09-24, 08:18 PM
if it wasnt for AA maxes, who'd kill the reavers? And wouldnt everyone want to be a reaver pilot if there were almost no dangers in being a pilot?
STEALTHKILLER
2003-09-25, 08:30 AM
the reason they have a aa max is becuse its the chepest 1 becuse it does the lest amount of damge 2 infatry and the most 2 aircraft. 2 avoid fire in a reaver or a mos is only for the skilled. you have 2 be going in circles and cut around trees. this is easy in a reaver but near imposible with a mos if your not good with it. and just for u the amount of damage the aa maxes did 2 aircraft at the beginig of the game
NC-150
TR-50
VS-75
Doppler
2003-09-25, 01:06 PM
Mosq's outrun missiles just by opening up the throttle fully. Whoever mentioned something about stationary vehicles being harder to lock is also wrong as the game doesnt track whether engines are going or not for the purposes of establishing a lock.
SweetTater
2003-09-25, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by Nitsch
AA max's are a joke against ground troops or vehicles. Burster MAXes can do some good damage to infantry. What I hate mostly about them is its hard to see where the shots are coming from.
gonnagetyou
2003-09-25, 02:30 PM
If you want to kill a Burster MAX, just get within 20 feet of him and he can't do anything to you. The closer the better. The Bursters shells need some distance before they arm. If you get within that minimum distance, he can't damage you.
I once pinned a Burster into a corner and unloaded my Pulsar with AP into him until he dropped. I had a good /t with him afterwards and let him know what he did wrong. He was totally unaware of the Bursters limitations.
I like the Burster, though. My TR character carries that cert all the time.
STEALTHKILLER
2003-09-25, 03:08 PM
dont tell them what they did wrong, that makes him smater and 2 get more kills. let little secert so u get lots of kills and kill exp*ive gotten 175 exp for killing a max with my reaver before.*
gonnagetyou
2003-09-25, 04:38 PM
Nah, I like it when the enemy knows what he's doing. I'd much rather have a challenging fight that forces me to try something new. I'd get bored otherwise.
Indecisive
2003-09-25, 06:59 PM
AA is a necisity.
AA maxes are awsome against aircraft, but teh gimp against anything else.
Well, at least the starfire.
dymetrie
2003-09-26, 01:55 AM
I must say that I have a a certain love of the NC Sparrow.
Along with my Galaxy Cert, it's one of my longest running pieces of equipment.
But killing Reavers is no mean feat, if they get behind you and start firing, the turning ability of a MAX suit basically means you get buggered.
Saying that though, the Sparrow has already been nerfed (so I hear), when the game first came out, you only had to get the lock for the first shot, then you could just fire off the rest of the clip wherever you liked (well, general direction) and they'd all connect... Now you have to maintain the lock for each and every shot...
It still rocks though :D
Dym
Hezzy
2003-09-26, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by aiwest420
it's quite easy to evade missile locks (i've flown as NC,VS,TR).
1)stay low
Last night I shot down every single reaver and mosquito that came near the facility. They all just haphazardly hovered over, miles in the air so I could get a clear LOS. I got a galaxy too, hrhrhrhrhr :D
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