Jackhammer r00lz!

[Rightwing]

I recently joined NC, got my Medium Assault and Van Guard cert, then got Heavy Assault next, and I can really say that the VG and JH simply own.

I got 94 kills on the first day from VG gunning and Jackhammering.

I guess NC = Easy, TR = Medium, VS = Hard.

:p

[Indecisive]

Indeed. VS = craaaazy insane settting.

[SilverLord]

Well...TR MCG is hard to use and get used to the recoil and aim and such but JH and Lasher you got pretty much splash from orb and the JH is a shotgun so it hits everything in a little area. Get used to people calling you a newb for using the JH.

[Diddy Mao]

MCG is Easy to Use and it's gonna be even better after the patch! it's rediculous how ub3r they made the thing!

[Incompetent]

It's not that the MCG is too easy to use or overpowered, or the lasher, or the Jack for that matter, its that the entire cert is too easy to use and obscenely overpowered. It's overpowered to the point where it drags down the entire game because the only requirement to be effective with one is to have a pulse. It's gotten to the point where you have laugh at some of the exploits any idiot with HA can pull off against even the best troops by just hitting surge, placing a brick on their trigger and throwing in a little bit of strafing for good measure.

[JakeLogan]

Yep I agree the HA is just too easy and just drags the game down I would be happy with just the assault rifles but me being a grunt most of the time I would be insane not to carry the HA cert. I would be decimated every time.

[Queensidecastle]

The 2 reasons the Jackhammer gets so much h8 is:

1)No CoF bloom at least untill you are what? on your 20th round? only takes 3 rounds to kill any trooper max and 1 mouse click to kill an infiltrator
2)Even with the tweak on the Test server you can kill a reinforced at 40m with 1 clip. A shotgun shouldnt even be able to hit anything at 40m. I dont have any problem with it owning indoors and in tight spaces because it is a shotgun after all, but killing with 1 clip or less at 40m with no movement CoF bloom? its just absurdity.

The Lasher isnt acurate to its recticle at 40m to begin with and even if it were, the orbs are easily dodged at that range

The MCG blooms so much you can barely hit anything at 40m

Personally I feel that no Heavy Assault weapon should do any damage outside of 30m but thats just me. People need to be forced to use Medium assault or SA/AV weapons past 30m

[gonnagetyou]

Yea, as a Vanu I try to keep my distance when fighting NC. Not always easy to do. I've found that the sweeper is a good counter though if you can get the jump on them yourself.

There's a lot of TR picking up the MCG and that in combination with surge is a very nasty combo in doors. There are a couple of guys on Markov that extremelly good with this. (shakes fist at Sammeal) :p

[NuclearSiege]

The thing i dont like about the jackhammer is the fact that it is a shotgun and i dont know how far it is before it causes no more damage because it spreads. I like the fact that NC is a shotgun empire i am even a scatter max, but how far does the damge go.

One more thing im confuzed on the NC scatter max. The three barrels. What does the most damage and what are they used for. The short one is for infintry and fires fast but what about the other two?

[SmackDab]

I don't know what you are talking about but I have been killed many times with what seems like only ONE burst from a JH. Reinforced even! Now with the other, medium, agile, standard, or infiltrator then for sure it's ONE blast. It's not even worth fighting a JH NC user in a base or tower cause the meeting = immediate death.

[Prophaniti]

Uh... no kidding. It took you that long to realize that the JH and VG are insanely good? Holy crap, the splash from a Vanguard shell can take out a reinforced armor. And I heard that the balance patch is going to give it more armor, with no speed penalty. If this is true, I don't know how anyone will be able to hurt one. I think the rebels have gone nazi... :nazi:
Oh by the way someone asked what the extra barrels on a scatter max do. From what I understand, they're for zoom fire. At 2x, the cone of fire gets smaller. At 4x a single slug is fired. Yeah. A long-range shotgun. wonder who thought that one up... :rolleyes:

[PLaYbOrk]

Wow I play as NC...i dunot use heavy assault and I rush bases all the time.....but truthfully I've faced MGC and Lasher and both are harder to take down than a max.
And Don't say a JH rules is a base until you've seen a Terran cg max bunkered down at hte end of a hallway or even just met and MCG face to face in those tight quarters.
Lashers hell at a range a lasher is on of the best.....yeah easy to dodge one on one IF THE USER's stupid but wait till a big battle there is no way to dodge that many

[PLaYbOrk]

I've been NC and Terran ALOT and even tried VS (not much but tried) and Terran are the easiest to use and until this patch comes out htey have a distinct advantage NC get armor well EXACT same armor as the rest save the quick shield max's get that blows and VS get speed I prefer VS max's no body expects you to rain down on the shooting if they didn't see you take off.

[VashTheStamped]

VS Lasher = point, click, win
kinda cheap and overpowered... :o

[Kikinchikin]

I agree. Heavy assault is overpowered. This is one reason I ditched gruntwork all together for a time being. Sure i had a heck of a time playing grunt, and I was/am uber with the MCG, but it got to the point where i'd do the same thing. Mow down people with the MCG, kill maxes with the striker, sniping was fun for a bit but it got old too, and i tried special assault for a while too. I find it's much more fun to sneak up on a JH user with ur amp than it is to take him one on one with the MCG. Fun stuff. But yeah I think the whole class needs a damage reduction so that way they could be more in line with MA weapons.

[Biohazzard56]

you cant put it simply as NC=easy , TR=medium , VS=hard; thats just ignorant

[Kikinchikin]

negative

[Bismarck]

Well I did what Smiley did. Left the Tr behind and joined NC.

Now that I've played alot with both the Jh and the MCG.........Jackhammer owns no contest, just shut up you idiots who say the cg is the best and it needs a nerf. (including you diddy)

Ive never really used the lasher so I can't talk about that.

[Happy lil Elf]

Mini-chain gun most definately does not need a nerf.
The Jackhammer is not as good as many seem to believe.

The end.

[Rightwing]

JH r00lz!1 :groovy:

[onestep]

i h8 the noobhammer
but only cos i get owned by it

good weapon easy to use....almost too easy

[Kikinchikin]

imo NC have too many "insta-kill weps". I mean sure they are supposed to be the heavy hitting faction, but that doesn't mean they should have a tank cannon that takes reinforced out in one hit, a missile launcher on their buggy that rapes nething in one hit and a shotgun that kills infils in one shot. Not to mention their AA max is just damn unavoidable unless u book it all ur afterburners out of there, but that's another story i wont get in to.

[Rightwing]

NC is hard-hitting, TR fires fast, and VS has versatility.

NC has their pounding tank, TR has their fast-firing MCG, and VS has their disco ball launcher of doom.

All in all, it balances out.

:huh:

[DramaticFanatic]

Hmmmm, in my opinion, I believe all the weapons are suitable for the role they are given. I have tried all the empires on my free trial, and one thing I noticed was I feared all the empires and their unique weapons.

When I am NC, I fear the Lasher or the MCG.
When I am VS, I fear the Jackhammer or the MCG.
When I am TR, I fear the Jackhammer or the Lasher.
Same goes to tanks (but in my opinion, I have never feared the prowler, maybe because I haven't seen many :)).

So in my opinion, I see all the empires as equal and each has their advantages in battle and shortcomings, as is stated here (http://planetside.station.sony.com/howto/empires.jsp).

[SilverLord]

Prowler is going to be the best tank here soon, so many TR's on Emerald got their Prowlers and Maruders waiting for the balance pass. We all have the MCG now, TR on Emerald isg etting better I think. We are comign abck up to the overpowering NC.

[Xxzard]

I see a whole lot of them because i'm TR and play on Forersol mainly, so of course they are there you just don't see them in outlying areas

[SmackDab]

VS Lasher = point, click, win
kinda cheap and overpowered... :o

That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Yes it will point click win if you stick it in someone's back. If they are even a hair bit infront of you and looking at you they can dodge the projectile ball by just side stepping. SURE IT DOES LASH DAMAGE but if they have a Jackhammer you are dead before killing them first.

[arctik]

everyone always complains about everyones weapons etc. yet they have their bit of overpowered nonsense as well. All in all everyone has they're own attributes. its like saying: "no fair that guy is better than me in that sport!" when really you've got your own talents and pronessness <---- had to throw that cool word in there.

[Nitsch]

NC is hard-hitting, TR fires fast, and VS has versatility.


Unfortunatly, hitting fast and hard is what beating your opponent is about, and VS can do neither well.

VS are supposed to be about superior mobility, but we are only slightly more moble and most the time you don't give a damn about mobility (unless you are in a magrider) you just want to kill whatever is in front of you quickly.

And nothing kills whatever is in front of you quicker than a jackhammer.

[Queensidecastle]

I wouldnt worry about VS at all. After the Ballance changes go in VS MAXs are going to kick some serious ass. They are really going to gain some ground as an empire because of this. Now the new Magrider sucks ass badly but it prolly wont go live in its current condition so I would expect some changes to perhaps accelleration and AI damage

[TheN00b]

yes, the jack pwnz. but ive been beaten down many, many times by lashers and mcgs. its not invincible by any means.

[Happy lil Elf]

That's the funniest thing I've read all day. Yes it will point click win if you stick it in someone's back. If they are even a hair bit infront of you and looking at you they can dodge the projectile ball by just side stepping.

How very strange. The part in bold is the funniest thing I've read all day.

[TheN00b]

lol