Heavy Transport Cert

[Doppler]

Can anyone see any major issues with them combining the galaxy and the sunderer into one cert. Barrin that yes flying an air vehicle is wholly difrent from a ground vehicle they are both very niche vehicles that are useless if you dont have the corrosponding facility. Once upon a time I had the gal cert but gave it up because it seemed like I'd drop on a base fly the gal to a safe place, land it, and by the time I got back to the base either the fight whould be over or while I was tooling around doing the infantry thing my gal whould be blown or stolen.

Sunderer's my main problem was if we had a techplant people whould rather take their techplant vehicles to a location, and I dont fault them for that.

[TheN00b]

that actually seems like a good idea. it prbly drives gal pilots insane to be dragging around those useless 3 cert points when ever the base their at isnt a Drop Ship Center. The sunderer would be a slightly weaker option, but would still work.

[dscytherulez]

But that gives gal pilots the ability to transport llu carriers also...which i dont think they should get, because libs cant do it!

[Doppler]

The lib was not meant to be a transport vehicle although it is, the gal WAS meant to be a transport vehicle, hence calling the cert HEAVY TRANSPORT. The Lib is a combat aircraft by that logic you should be pissed mossy's reavers and atvs/lightnings cant haul LLU's.

[Hamma]

Interesting idea, I'm for it

[Veteran]

Certification Credit Consolidation has been kicking around for a while. It's a good idea.

I'd like to see Medium Assault not be necessary for the other assault certs. I don't see the logic that says you have to be certified in Cycler/Gauss/Pulsar and Sweeper before you can qualify to use a grenade launcher. It would free up two certs for a lot of people and that's a good thing.

[Doppler]

Personaly I kind of like the idea of needing medium assault, you have to learn the M-16 before you can learn the M-203 or the Mark 13 gernade launcher.

[Aen]

I like the Heavy Transport idea, but if they continue with combining certs., then they are cutting down on the different roles people play. Everyone with the Sunderer now has the Gal and everyone with the Gal has the Sunderer now. At some point you have to draw the line. But as for the transport idea, i can see how that would work, seeing as how there is a shortage of quality Gal and Sunderer pilots out there. And I think it would be nice to have those good role players to get 2 vehicles for that one cert.

As for the MA, they should definately keep that the way it is. Yeah the extra 2 cert points would be nice, but just think, all the NC grunts with JH now have 2 extra cert points..... ;) ......scary.....

[Madcow]

I like the idea with just a couple of reservations. First of all, next to nobody has the Sunderer cert now and I like the idea of seeing more of them around. I've always been pretty fond of the war wagon. My first reservation is that 3 certs wouldn't be enough and it might need to be 4. You're allowing a lot of flexibility letting somebody have the two transports like that. My gut feeling is that people would be more willing to pay 4 for the both of those than were willing to get ripped off with the 3 cert ATV thing they had going on.
My second reservation is what this does to the Deliverer. Heck, at 4 certs you may as well throw the Deliverer into the mix and have a Transport cert. If you combine Gal and Sunderer the Deliverer will become the rarest vehicle in the game.

[Happy lil Elf]

Personally I wish they'd consolidate more vehicle certs or perhaps give a more expensive cert that's cheaper than buying them seperately fpr certain pairings of vehicles like for example the Mossy/Reaver, the Deliverer/Sunderer, the lightning/Medium tank for 5 instead of 6 certs.

[Nitsch]

I could see combining Gal/Deliverer more than Gal/sunderer. Sunderer is a kick arse cert by itself.

Gal and deliverer have more in common in that they are primarily transports with guns that are not that great for assault. While the Sunderer is an RV of death; it can transport sizable force while having decent firepower.

[TheRagingGerbil]

I like the idea, but I'd suggest a little change though.

Heavy Transport Cert
Sunderer
Loadstar

Medium Transport Cert
Deliverer
Galaxy

My other idea involves a yet to be created vehicle.

Heavy Transport Cert
Sunderer
Galaxy

Medium Transport Cert
Deliverer
Blackhawk (Imagine a Deliverer with the tail and wings of a liberator. A fast insertion/extraction vehicle)

[Madcow]

I could see combining Gal/Deliverer more than Gal/sunderer. Sunderer is a kick arse cert by itself.

Only the Skyguard sees less use than the Sunderer, even the Deliverer is used more. It's cool, but worth the certs? I wouldn't mind seeing these combo deals just for the sake of seeing some of these vehicles more often on the battlefield. I can go days without seeing a single Skyguard or Sunderer.

[Kyonye]

they should stay seperate. they may both be heavy transports but one land and ones sea. completely different from eachother.

[FireZ]

I agree....I would like to see a lot more combo certs. harrasser/skyguard....etc...some vehicles are just not worth the certs you spend but could be useful from time to time. The galaxy does admittedly need some help and so does the Sunderer. I do not however think we should add them together. Maybe pair them with others but not together. Maybe the galaxy and the loadstar.....the sunderer and the deliverer.

[TheN00b]

the gal doesnt need much hlp, the gun upgrade from the BP should keep it good. howevr, the sunderer, deliver, and skyguard DO need major hlp. i agree that the devs should make a condense the certs to get a gal/lode cert and a sunder/del cert. as 4 the skyguard, screw it. :)

[NoSurrender]

id get gal then becuz i cant spend 3 points on something i use so lil

[Galain]

u all are talking about a vehicle called the "lodestar" but what is that...i have never seen one nor is it on a ps website

[Doppler]

Lodestar is a distantly promised heavy transport airvehicle able to haul tanks ams's et all. It's currently MIA.

THe problem with the gal and sunderer is finding assengers for them, unless your dropping on a base directly it's hard to find enough people to make a gal trip woirrth it.

The deliverer is just about perfect, my only complaint is not being able to drive it in re-enforced and it's water speed needs a major boost.

[Madcow]

The deliverer is just about perfect, my only complaint is not being able to drive it in re-enforced and it's water speed needs a major boost.

You know how you get into those passenger vehicles and sometimes you just don't know what in the world the driver is doing? I was in a Deliverer (passenger, not gunner) with a squad and a Reaver started chasing us. I'm not sure what the gunner was doing, but the Reaver was boring into us pretty good so he must not have been having to avoid too much fire. The driver then decides to use the Deliverer's strength to shake our pursuer by hitting the water. Suddenly we're chugging along at a slow enough speed the Reaver can use his missiles. I bail out of the vehicle, but it's in the water so I can't get away from the explosion fast enough.

Good times.

[SandTrout]

Deliverer water speen needs a boost. I would be perfectly fine with a dropship cert that allowed access to both the Gal and the Lodestar.

Sunderer is a mobile artilery platform, the Harrasser will probably be more usefull once the 12mm gets buffed, same with the Deliv's 20mms.

Skygaurd is just plain under-used do to its lack of vercitility and vunerability to the heavy buggies and tanks. I would realy like to see more of them around.

[Doppler]

My biggest complaint about all the ground transport is that if you dont brief everyone in the vehicle not to bail unless you say so it can lead to problems. Some people bail at the first sign of trouble which usualy gets the vehicle wasted especialy when facing tanks. (the best way to face a tank in a deliverer is DONT by the way) I mean why is it that I can bail out of any aircraft at will but the passengers can dictate that a ground trnasport must come to a complete stop so they can get out.

[Incompetent]

:stupid:
I and alot of the other guys in my outfit pretty much have an outfit only policy for our vehicles for that reason. I'll give a guy a ride up to the fight and the like but i always try to move around a combat zone without a random in my vehicle (just a harrasser now, but i've had some other stuff.) They need to make it so if you jump out of a moving vehicle over a certain speed your stunned for a second and maybe take a bit of damage (you aren't going to jump out of a moving Sunderer and hit the ground running, your just gonna hit the ground.)