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Veteran
2003-10-17, 12:47 AM
For all of you who don't realize it yet, the following things are now true about the Prowler tank:

1: It has a max speed of 49kph. To put it in perspective, a bicyclist can reach this speed on flat ground. This means that an ANT will not only outrun the Prowler, it will run circles around it. It is the slowest empire tank.

2: It takes a full 10 seconds for the Prowler to reach its stride after stopping or hitting steep terrain. Every time the driver stops, the count resets.

3: The Prowler has the worst handling of all the tanks.

4: The Prowler requires three people to fulfill its role as the highest damage over time tank.

It seems almost certain that three Lightnings are more powerful than one fully manned Prowler. This was probably true before the Lightning got buffed, and seems definitely true now.

What do you think?

Happy lil Elf
2003-10-17, 01:05 AM
I think considering I came around a corner, saw a prowler and was dead before I could even attempt to flee the prowler is definately good enough right now. The main guns on that thing hurt The only thing I would suggest is and increase in the top speed to at least 55kph. All the tanks are slow now. Hell, Lightnings only hit 65. I'd like to at least have a chance to run away in my Lightning.

Acaila
2003-10-17, 01:07 AM
I think the Prowler is pretty good now, but could use a bit of a speed buff and maybe a better turning circle.

SandTrout
2003-10-17, 01:55 AM
You do not need 2 gunners to achieve the rank of "highest damage over time tank". It did prior to the ballance pass, but not as it stands in live. In fact, the main issues of the Prowler's main cannons not doing best damage over time was what prompted in increase in its ROF. A Prowler's main guns outdammage the Vangaurd's gun over time, and now also a 1-shot Infantry killer.

The TTK in a 1on1 fight between the Vang and Prowler will be about even because the Vang has more armor than the Prolwer.

Hamma
2003-10-17, 01:56 AM
It's a tank.

DramaticFanatic
2003-10-17, 02:00 AM
It's a tank.

Fortunately. :p

Lise
2003-10-17, 02:07 AM
Trust me. Those main guns got BUFFED. No question. It's slow, but with guns like that it doesn't need to bother with trifles like "speed".

gonnagetyou
2003-10-17, 04:05 AM
I saw lots of Prowlers being used today and they were doing plenty of damage. Good to see people using them in groups, also.

SilverLord
2003-10-17, 09:14 AM
It's a tank.

Amen, they are all tanks and the Prowler is much much better now. So many more people use them now. The NC tryed to take Ish, Cery, and Fors all at the same time and this usually results in us losing but we accually kicked the NC off each continent I thought. I think it was because of the Prowler and maybe the MCG buff.

aiwest420
2003-10-17, 09:21 AM
My vanguardg got killed plenty of times by prowlers last night, it's fine.

dscytherulez
2003-10-17, 09:56 AM
The only prob i have with it is the fact that it slows down so much when u hit someone. Now think about that, why would a 20 ton tank slow down when it hits a 120 lb man? I can see why it NEEDS the slow down, for tank running over sake, but i think they could keep it a lil higher, i mean, cmon!

IronWolf
2003-10-17, 09:58 AM
The role of the prolwer has just changed not gotten worse, when i was on last night it seems the vanguard had the advantage well assaulting but the prowler basically a turrent when sitting in the courtyard waiting for a hack.one ish two prowlers were holding a CY from 5 vans allowing us to get the hack. The prowler has made some great changes by me

Reveller
2003-10-17, 10:12 AM
A Prowler could probably kill ten lightnings with a good team of three :)

Hamma
2003-10-17, 01:46 PM
Indeed, its supposed to be slow as well - it's role was always to be the slowest most heavily armored tank in the game. The Vanguard was always meant to have the biggest punch . etc

noxious
2003-10-17, 02:54 PM
The only prob i have with it is the fact that it slows down so much when u hit someone. Now think about that, why would a 20 ton tank slow down when it hits a 120 lb man? I can see why it NEEDS the slow down, for tank running over sake, but i think they could keep it a lil higher, i mean, cmon!


The answer is obvious, people complained about magmowing (and all vehicles in general mowing) that the devs had to do something, and making the tank slow down to 10kph (or whatever it goes down to) was their solution. It's an excellent solution, one I had not thought of, and probably the most effective. We brought that nerf on ourselves by complaining about vehicles running us over.

Mazzic
2003-10-17, 03:18 PM
Prowler is a lot meaner now.

However, the gunner mounting animation and side switching still isn't fixed. And, now it seems that the Treads don't seem to roll when the tank is Moving.


Over all I'd say the changes were positive. Now they need to adjust the size of the boxes for MachineGun Ammo. But, thats more of a global thing.

Prophaniti
2003-10-17, 03:29 PM
Havent got a chance to try it yet, but my friend says it finally stands a chance against a Vanguard :thumbsup:

Veteran
2003-10-18, 02:14 AM
I gunned 100mm in a Prowler yesterday and got a ton of kills. Looking at the results of this poll, and my personal experience, I have to say my first impression of the new Prowler was wrong.

Thanx for the votes.

Infernus
2003-10-18, 10:27 AM
We were almost able to solo a vanny yesterday... but i forgot that it dont take to hills kindly anymore... but then again convential wisdom says that the tank is supposed to move slower them many other vehicles...

Doop
2003-10-18, 10:54 AM
Bah. I always gun a Prowler if I get the chance (if I can gun the 100mm, otherwise I don't). I tend to get mad kills with it. I think the Prowler is decent. It's no Vanguard but it is a lot more balanced than before. What was the last patch supposed to do? Duhhhhh....eat cheese?

The Vanguard, Mag and Prowler all meet their empire-specific characteristics. Prowler is like the MCG - not so much damage but fast fire rate. Vanguard is extremely slow ROF but a hell of a lot of damage per shot. And the Mag is accurate, energy-powered and most maneuverable of all the tanks. More balanced.

Indecisive
2003-10-18, 12:49 PM
The only prob i have with it is the fact that it slows down so much when u hit someone. Now think about that, why would a 20 ton tank slow down when it hits a 120 lb man? I can see why it NEEDS the slow down, for tank running over sake, but i think they could keep it a lil higher, i mean, cmon!


Because...its a game......


Why would an army voluteerily n3rf themselfs?

Ultimatedogg
2003-10-18, 06:02 PM
you have never seen the tr have you?