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CO Snake
2003-01-15, 09:56 AM
I was looking at the recent polls on this website and it appears that the game will be full of leet snipxor dewds and maybe 3 Commanders and 20 drivers...hmmmm.

Denali
2003-01-15, 10:00 AM
Probably. I have a bad feeling there willl be roving bands of nothing but sniper d3wds, having 20 or so snipers taking shots at you all at once would get old, fast.

:rolleyes:

Here's to the slim chance of sanity prevailing....

denali

Navaron
2003-01-15, 10:03 AM
It takes the sniper rifle (bolt driver) about 4 seconds to reload, then you have to re aquire target, rinse and repeat. One Max will take out that whole group of 20 snipers. Thats the thing about this game, it seems at least, that you really have to prepare a squad that is well balanced otherwise you're gonna get eaten alive. There will be these sniper squads, but they won't matter for shit cause a squad of all snipers isn't going to take or protect a base.

Airlift
2003-01-15, 10:42 AM
And bad things happen to sniper herds when a tank column rolls thru.

CO Snake
2003-01-15, 11:19 AM
Oh I agree..the prepared squad will prevail 90% of the time. All these little snipe happy kiddies are going to be in for a wake up call.

CO Snake
2003-01-15, 11:21 AM
test

Diego
2003-01-15, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by |61st|.CO.Snake
test
:spam:

Hamma
2003-01-15, 12:59 PM
I would not take the polls too seriously heh

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-01-15, 01:01 PM
wtf hamma? where's my deep sea diver option? bastard! :mad:

Hamma
2003-01-15, 01:02 PM
Next time

�io
2003-01-15, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
I would not take the polls too seriously heh :stupid:
You can't trust anything right now, not the polls nor the info, until the game is gold and we all played it no one really knows what they will do and how they will do it.

Camping Carl
2003-01-15, 05:08 PM
And besides, not only do snipers take several headshots to kill a medium armor, but max suits are perfectly suited to anti-sniper duty. I wouldn't be suprised if that's one of the biggest reasons the devs put them in the game. Planetside is being designed with killing snipers in mind, most fps's are not. I wouldn't be suprised if we find that being a sniper is so dangerous, people will complain that they're underpowered.

Lexington_Steele
2003-01-15, 05:17 PM
Like one of the Devs said, a Mosquito should have little problems mowing down snipers.

Bring on the sniper platoons! :D

Tobias
2003-01-15, 05:17 PM
I plan to be a sniper no matter what. I also plan to attack people with the galaxy by landing it on them. It shall be fun. Like shoots and ladders.

DarkJaguar
2003-01-15, 05:22 PM
I don't have to worry about snipers, I'll be flyin high in my Galaxy.

Navaron
2003-01-15, 05:22 PM
Have you ever seen a game where the snipers didn't complain about being underpowered? Hell, I've even heard it from CS AWP whores.

Warborn
2003-01-15, 05:41 PM
Snipers are generally people who're drawn to the weapon because it's, if not the most powerful in terms of damage, the most powerful in terms of use. Zoom and accuracy are two major benefits of any weapon. Attach a "realistic" damage value to them also and you just made virtually every other weapon inferior. The only reason everyone in CS doesn't use an AWP is because it's expensive, and the game has a lot of close-combat, where the enemy is only a few meters away. In PS, however, weapons are free, and the terrain is largely wide open wilderness. So I think it goes without saying that the infantry aspect of PS will be FUBAR if they don't handle the sniper rifle well. If they go into it saying to themselves "Snipers are SUPPOSE to be the best at killing infantry!", then every person interested in killing a lot of infantry will use a sniper rifle.

Tobias
2003-01-15, 05:54 PM
I used the MP 5 navy or the scout in CS, or the terrorist Krieg if i killed a terrorist who had one. The AWP was far to cheap.

mistled
2003-01-15, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Camping Carl
I wouldn't be suprised if we find that being a sniper is so dangerous, people will complain that they're underpowered. Uhm.. they're already complaining that they are underpowered.

Denali
2003-01-15, 06:27 PM
I kinda feel sorry for the few (probably very few) people that are looking forward to playing a sniper because of the thrill and experience of it, and the opportunity to use their skills to the highest benefit of their empires that have to suffer due to the cheap 1337 bastards that always try to ruin everything for everyone else. I just hope the sniper class isn't nerfed too much, but just enough....

denali

mistled
2003-01-15, 06:29 PM
I think it'll still be possible to be effective as a sniper. You'll just have to be the man at it.

Which is how it should be.

Denali
2003-01-15, 06:30 PM
Or the woman ;) and yep, I agree.

Tobias
2003-01-15, 06:44 PM
We know that to move across large expanses of land you need a vehicle or its slower then all houch, so most people will be traveling in APC's or buggys to get where they are going, or in a MAX in run mode, and snipers will not be a big deal. Near NME bases you will have to be carefull of snipers, but if this is anything like tribes 1 then the great majority of the snipers will stand on the bases walls and proved easy BEP's for most, and one or two good sniper players will provide a challange for the attackers. Its how it should be.

Camping Carl
2003-01-15, 07:05 PM
Uhm.. they're already complaining that they are underpowered.

No, only vanu, and their opinions don't count anyways.

SandTrout
2003-01-15, 07:16 PM
Fortunately you have the posibility of useing assault rifles as sniper weapons due to the magnifier implant. A deditcated sniper wepon is too specialized my my tastes, but even a scout in CS can be used as a half-decent deffence weapon in close quarters.

Bolt-drivers will not be the assassins and masters of long-ranged assault like other FPSs. The snipers will just be scouts that use a long range weapon because geting too close will get you killed.

I've seen this in DAoC. My brother plays a ranger, but not to be a 1337 sniper. He did it because they make good scouts and can do damage from range with their bow. I loves his character, even though many other rangers claim to be useless. They are realy trying to play their characters in an inefective/1337 fassion.

thedarKforce
2003-01-15, 07:57 PM
well i know im not gonna be a sniper. Im gonna be the best commander the terran empire ever had

RabidPlatypus
2003-01-15, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Camping Carl
And besides, not only do snipers take several headshots to kill a medium armor, but max suits are perfectly suited to anti-sniper duty. I wouldn't be suprised if that's one of the biggest reasons the devs put them in the game. Planetside is being designed with killing snipers in mind, most fps's are not. I wouldn't be suprised if we find that being a sniper is so dangerous, people will complain that they're underpowered.

designing a game's aspects soley on the destruction of another aspect of the game is incredibly stupid.

Camping Carl
2003-01-15, 08:38 PM
Well, thankfully planetside doesn't do that.

Shyfted One
2003-01-15, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by RabidPlatypus
designing a game's aspects soley on the destruction of another aspect of the game is incredibly stupid.

Yeah, AA stuff is stupid... :rolleyes:

BLuE_ZeRO
2003-01-15, 09:08 PM
yeah guns are stupid too :D

Let's just have a massive game of DDR http://smilies.networkessence.net/s/contrib/ed/laugh.gif

Tobias
2003-01-15, 09:48 PM
DDR is the spawn of satan.

DragonReborn
2003-01-15, 10:31 PM
Snipers are gonna be a part of the game, the last thing that this game needs is a bunch of people whining like in EverQuest. Underpowered, overpowered, wahtever, people will play the game teh way they like, and if they dont like it they can change it, no need to worry, teh game will be balanced out.

mistled
2003-01-15, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by thedarKforce
well i know im not gonna be a sniper. Im gonna be the best commander the terran empire ever had
That shouldn't prove too difficult for you.

CDaws
2003-01-16, 01:05 AM
If I were to come across a sniper outfit/squad of 20 pluse players I hope to be in some kind of max armor so I can just keep walking towards them as they franticaly try to reload there rifles to no avail and blow each and everyone of them away with my "Shotgun of Justice" the Jackhammer. One barrel or three :D I'll let them choose. http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/geno/shotgun.gif

Hamma
2003-01-16, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Tobias
DDR is the spawn of satan.

Zatrais
2003-01-16, 10:48 AM
Whats so hot about snipers in PS.. I have a hard time seeing them usefull for annything but taking a few shots at defenders thats popping their head up from behind a wall. Sure a sniper can take a few shots at people as they leave the vehicles and when they spawn at a AMS but hey, after a while people will learn to have a designated mosquito hunting for snipers.

Hamma
2003-01-16, 12:35 PM
Snipers always are and always will be a source of controversy. There's the folks who keep gettnig sniped and are pissed that the snipers are overpowered. Then there are the snipers themselves who think they get spotted too easily and are underpowered.

Airlift
2003-01-16, 01:36 PM
For anyone still afraid of Snipers, please refer to the handy reference just a few threads down, entitled 1001 Ways to Kill a Sniper. There's nothing to fear but fear itself. And carneys, circus folk...

�io
2003-01-16, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by Hamma
Snipers always are and always will be a source of controversy. There's the folks who keep gettnig sniped and are pissed that the snipers are overpowered. Then there are the snipers themselves who think they get spotted too easily and are underpowered.

You forgot those who actually have a sensible grasp on the issue, who don't mind getting sniped if the system is well made.