FF should be OFF in control room.

[Mognoc]

Anyone agree with me? Because we all know how boring it is waiting for the hack in that room, and then the (idiot) people in there get bored and start teamkilling. Like this one time, some MAX who's not doing anything in there opens up with his anti-infantry and kills most of the people. It's a pain. :rolleyes:

[Rightwing]

I'm confused. :confused:

[Mognoc]

How so?

[Rightwing]

What does FF and OFF mean? :confused:

[DramaticFanatic]

FF is friendly fire and OFF is 'off' as in switch the lights off. He means when people are bored in the CC, people start team killing because it takes like 15 minutes for the hack to complete.

I totally disagree.

[Veteran]

I agree that you have a valid complaint, but if they were going to turn off team damage, they would have done so under all conditions, which reduces the skill required to use splash weapons (and would reduce the coolness of 'Code Black' Liberator strikes (yes, I liked that video)).

The grief system would have given Mr. Pounder a ton of grief, so the game didn't fail, just that one player.

[SandTrout]

Thats what Knifeing MAXes is for...

[Aen]

I just spread the cancer with my REK.

[aiwest420]

no, it's not needed.

usually, tk-ing during a hack is within an outfit, ppl wont tk because they're bored, since it gives em plenty of grief.

plus, the retards sitting in the CC during the whole hack are useless to your empire, as they could be better used somewhere else (ie, the next base, a nearby tower...etc)

[Happy lil Elf]

plus, the retards sitting in the CC during the whole hack are useless to your empire, as they could be better used somewhere else (ie, the next base, a nearby tower...etc)
Nothing against you personally West. I'm only quoting you because you brought up something that's been bugging for quite awhile now.

Why do so many people seem to think guarding the CC is a bad idea? Yes, it's a horrible idea for anyone to guard the CC after the hack. I mean, there's no possible way an enemy could sneak into an unguarded CC and resecure it, right?

Guarding the CC is, in fact, an important job and one that's usually pretty god awful boring as well. Does it require that 60 people hang out there? No, of course not. Most of those people should in fact move the hell on. A couple of MAXs and and advanced medic/Engy can go a long way. But yeah everyone should just run off to the next tower/base as soon as the hack starts. :rolleyes:

Now I do agree, if you're just going run around in the courtyard of a base that's been hacked and has no resistance then yes, there's not much reason for you to stay there and you should probably move on. Leaving a couple people or even a squad behind in the base you just hacked to ensure it goes through isn't stupid though. In fact I'd say it's a pretty good idea.

[Acaila]

I just voted 'yes' but I meant to vote 'no'. If FF was off, it would be virtually impossible to take a CC with an entire squad in it.

[Jarlo]

CC needs to be guarded, but not by 10+ people 8)

[Nitsch]

If you Disabled FF in CC, what would prevent a few people with a thumpers from just spamming plazma grenades to protect the CC? They could do it without worrying about grief points and make it impossible for anyone to get in there.

I think a better tactic is to leave the room when idots start TK'ing each other.

[aiwest420]

Happy lil' Elf, i'm not saying CC defense is bad, but when 30 people sit inside a zerged base with tons of vehicles in the courtyard with no resistance at all, it's a waste of manpower. Usually they are needed at the next base, a nearby tower, etc.

Also, people need to learn about the time slice system that went in 4+ months ago, i still see lots of idiots saying "WE NEED TO STAY IN SOI FOR XP".....

[Black]

Thats what Knifeing MAXes is for...
Yes but if u are the max and geting knifed it is quite irritating so then i warn them to stop and if they dont i smoke them.......

[Hamma]

FF should never be off.

[Happy lil Elf]

Happy lil' Elf, i'm not saying CC defense is bad, but when 30 people sit inside a zerged base with tons of vehicles in the courtyard with no resistance at all, it's a waste of manpower. Usually they are needed at the next base, a nearby tower, etc.

Also, people need to learn about the time slice system that went in 4+ months ago, i still see lots of idiots saying "WE NEED TO STAY IN SOI FOR XP".....
Right, and I'm not arguing with you. You simply brought up an argument that at least in some cases has been taken way too far imo. Like I said I wholeheartedly agree that if a base is under control and there is little resistance that the main force should be moving on. Since the change to the exp system there have been fools who will go into a CC that's guarded by 3 or 4 people and bitch them out for guardning the CC telling them to move on to the next base and quit wasting their time.


Erm yeah anyways on the topic at hand no FF would be idiotic. Imagine trying to break into a CC where there are 4 anchored pounder MAXs that don't have to worry about grief or killing each other. Or a room full of Jackhammer/MCG/Lasher users who can simply spray and not worry about anything. It just wouldn't work.

[FireZ]

FF should never be off.
turning FF of anywere would be retarted

[Cauldron Borne]

I tell the pounders inside CC to go outside. Just RIGHT outside the CC. If hey are inside they kill the other guys if so much as a cloaker gets in. 5+ people dead over one cloaker? When I used to have cloaker I'd do this just for the laughs! Now if that pounder was ouside the CC, he could have got the cloaker kill AND the gratitude of his friends AND no grief. On the other hand, When 10+ peeps are inside a CC that are enemy to TR I just laugh as a bounder walks up to the door and pours fire into the tiny room. No resistance, easy EXP. Total humiliation to the 'defenders'. MORAL: keep moving; don't bunch up. 2-4 people inside a CC is ENOUGH!

[SkunkPunk]

5 step soloutin to clear out all the lamer XP whores in the CC

1) load ur biggest armour in ACES(except max) and a jammer :huh:

2) proceed to CC :confused:

3) place boomers everywher trying to cover all angles of the room, even right on the CC :eek:

4) press v s a c :ugh:

5) throw jammer in CC room :blowup: :twisted:

u can kill up to 40 ppl, and the best part you can only get 10 greif...
if u get angry tells from ppl, say shut up maggot get out there and do something for your empire! :rock:

[Cauldron Borne]

what does v s a c do? (shows ignorance)

[WritheNC]

Hey I think no ff in the cc room is a good idea!

TR can spike 8 pounders in there and drop rounds all over the floor, without fear of blowing themselves up; but if an enemy opens the door...

VS can just shoot lashers at each other, as well as thumpers with plasma grenades bouncing all over the room.

NC can run around with scattercannons and JH's without fear of hurting each other too!

Yes I'm being sarcastic. :)

[Doppler]

5 step soloutin to clear out all the lamer XP whores in the CC

1) load ur biggest armour in ACES(except max) and a jammer :huh:

2) proceed to CC :confused:

3) place boomers everywher trying to cover all angles of the room, even right on the CC :eek:

4) press v s a c :ugh:

5) throw jammer in CC room :blowup: :twisted:

u can kill up to 40 ppl, and the best part you can only get 10 greif...
if u get angry tells from ppl, say shut up maggot get out there and do something for your empire! :rock:

You like being on peoples TK list right? I had some dipshit try and blow me up in the cc the other day, I shot him, shot his outfit mate that came in the door after him, then wired my own boomer and set it to blow when he came back.

Bottom line, let other people worry about what they do, it is a game after all, I'd rather have them in the CC then anywhere else in base, if you have time to set up elaborate ways to tk people then I think it is you who needs to look into finding where you can better serve your empire.

Secondly, placing a boomer anywhere but a on a flat horizontical surface is useuless since all a boomers energy goes up reguardless of angle of orientation. Put a boomer on a wall, stick your nose against it, detonate, youll get very little damage.

FInnaly, you can get more then 10 grief if you go through this, you are still held accountable for the actions of your explosives.

[Destroyeron]

Yes but if u are the max and geting knifed it is quite irritating so then i warn them to stop and if they dont i smoke them.......

I'm usually a max, but if I'm not as soon as i see a knife come out and 1 swipe I kill them immediately. It's annoying as hell. And its fun when have a reason to take out a whole group. :D (took out 8 vanu on my friend VS character in my max X.X :D )

[Happy lil Elf]

can kill up to 40 ppl, and the best part you can only get 10 greif...
if u get angry tells from ppl, say shut up maggot get out there and do something for your empire!And people like you are why I sometimes wish I could kick people in their head through my computer screen.

[Cauldron Borne]

hehe, I joke around with my outfit members on this, but not to others. Again what the HELL does v s a c MEAN?!? what does it DOOO?!?!

[SkunkPunk]

v s a c = I will hack their control console...

anyways, i only do this if its the last base to lock on a home cont, and i usually send warnings saying fireworks in the CC enter at your own risk... and if u see a cc covered in boomers and dont move, well thats your own fault

[FightForFreedom]

Having FF off is stupid. Plus, you shouldn't have many people in the CC. Once it's hacked, some of my friends and I hack the terminals, load up, get a tank, and proceed to the next base. Staying back is a waste of time.

[Doppler]

Having FF off is stupid. Plus, you shouldn't have many people in the CC. Once it's hacked, some of my friends and I hack the terminals, load up, get a tank, and proceed to the next base. Staying back is a waste of time.

It's idiots like you why base hacks get lost, then like clockwork they get to the next base and bitch about no link.

[knifeman2005]

i think that the ff is a good thing. We need to keep it on to make sure things dont get out of hand with tking.