The Four Horeseman of the Apocalypse

[DaddyWarBux]

Who and or what are the Four Horeseman of the Apocalypse, I know they have something to do with the bible and crap, can anyone tell me?

[AztecWarrior]

I don't know. I'm not a Bible studier, I just know the major passages. I could find out, but I gotta hit the sack soon.

[Bighoss]

There supposed to come and burn shit down I think but my guess is that that the military would kill them before they did any real major damage so I wouldn't worry.

[AztecWarrior]

There supposed to come and burn shit down I think but my guess is that that the military would kill them before they did any real major damage so I wouldn't worry.

When God calls the final judgement, nothing will stop Him. Not even the strategeryic use of nucular weapons. GG

[DoomWarrior]

"THE FOUR HORSEMAN OF THE APOCALYSE"
(The Waves of Asension)

Poem by Jodieanne

What is the thunder that I hear?
It is my destiny!
The Riders of the Prophecy-
The Angels of Apocalpse-
I turn my eyes, in dread of the darkest night God's Riders of the Light!

First Horseman
You lead the souls called "Chosen"
Who ride with the White Horse
Adorned with Heaven's Crown
Earth Child

Your highest aspect rides the White Horse And already knows the grandeur
That is waiting to be found
Follow on, Lord Micheal
Holding high the Sword of Truth!

The Red Horse gallops on........
Cutting away the cords that keep us tied Held fast to this earth
And unable to ride

Black Steed of the Subconscious
Reveal your secrets
And let this cloud of darkness lift
To multi-faceted light

Balance, at last, the Scales of Karma.
No more secrets
No more hiding
No more Night!

Pale rider
Free will gone wild?
The plan gone mad?
Rebellious Child.....

What is the thunder that I hear?
It is my destiny!
The Riders of the Prophecy-
The Angels of Apocalypse-
I turn my eyes, expecting darkest night..... My heart cries out a welcome
To God's Riders of the Light!

i hope this poem clarifies a few things, if not ill specify later

[DoomWarrior]

there here to bring judgement apon the world... when it ends.

[Bighoss]

When God calls the final judgement, nothing will stop Him. Not even the strategeryic use of nucular weapons. GG

Bullshit we'd find a way to get that little fucker!

[AztecWarrior]

Bullshit we'd find a way to get that little fucker!

You talking about God?

[Dharkbayne]

get ready to lock this baby Hamma, I see a religion flame war starting...

[Hamma]

Indeed.

[AztecWarrior]

I don't feel the need to argue with this guy. He has an extremely poor reputation and I'd trounce him in 2 seconds if we did debate.

[WarChilde]

i like myself just the way i am

[Ait'al]

Can i help get it locked 8)

[Derfud]

Do what they did in South Park, attack heaven, that is where Saddam is storing his weapons anyways :P

[AztecWarrior]

i like myself just the way i am

[/ramdomness]

Sorry, that didn't come out right, where does that fit in, if at all?

[Strygun]

Revelation 6:1-8 (NIV)
1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come!" 2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. 3When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come!" 4Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword. 5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day's wages, and three quarts of barley for a day's wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!" 7When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" 8I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Let me know if you need more explanation. I will be happy to go into it more.

[Happy lil Elf]

I don't feel the need to argue with this guy. He has an extremely poor reputation and I'd trounce him in 2 seconds if we did debate.

Except you wouldn't. You have no facts to present in a debate, only your beliefs which as much as you'd liek them to be are nothing more than that-beliefs.

[FraudulentBob]

Hey Hoss, if you ever came face to face with God himself, you would piss your pants and fall to your knees.

:angel:

[Happy lil Elf]

Probably. Of course that's assuming he/she/it exists and of course gives a rats ass about anything on a planet on the edge of a random galaxy. Please provide proof of this and I promise to start trembling in fear asap.

Belief in God has no basis in fact. That is not debatable. There is no definitive evidence of God's existance. Disbelief, or at least skepticism, in my case comes from just that. Does that mean you're beliefs are wrong? No. In fact I have great respect for people who can put their faith in a God as long as they aren't bitchy zealots about it. Just keep in mind they are just that-beliefs. They are not fact. That doesn't make them any less valuable or at least it shouldn't if you truely believe them.

Now then, what does no definitive evidence leave you with as far as a debate about a God goes? It leaves you with something you can't really debate. There is nothing to prove nor disprove the existance of God. So what any debate of whether God or not is real generally boils down to is people shouting "Is too!" or "Is not!". Needless to say it's rather pointless and usually both sides come out both smelling and looking like giant asses.

[Happy lil Elf]

On topic:

The four horsmen are named War, Famine, Death and Plauge/Pestilence. Very good name for a lance of mechs too :p

[DoomWarrior]

I'm anti-religion, wat has God ever done for u? Do u ever see him saving hte thousands of people that die of starvation each day? Does he ever stop wars and create peace? No, he make milk come out of a statue of a cow's eyes, whoop dee doo. Try telling a priest this. Last time i did, he looked at me strange and couldn't give a straight answer until he mumbled something incoherently and walked away.

[DoomWarrior]

wait i remember now, he said...

Dont test my faith

[Bighoss]

I don't feel the need to argue with this guy. He has an extremely poor reputation and I'd trounce him in 2 seconds if we did debate.

I don't think this is actually worth arguing! If you honestly feel the need to argue this absurd hypothetical situation that was offered as a joke then by all means please humor me. I just don't understand how you would get upset and try to personally attack me because I was joking about how we'd find a way to stop the end of the world. Just chill out man

I wasn't aware that I had a poor repuation, my guess is that its just with you.

[Nimbus]

On topic:

The four horsmen are named War, Famine, Death and Plauge/Pestilence. Very good name for a lance of mechs too :p

This is correct, although sometimes hardcore Metallica fans will argue with you about it. Seems Metallica wrote a song where they had a horseman named Time. I think Time was exchanged for War but I'm not sure. Not a hardcore Metallica fan.

[Sputty]

I think we can all agree that this thread will become annoying. BTW, there's a 5th "horseman" who rides atop a giant kitten and kills with his might axe of kittens.

[Happy lil Elf]

I would laugh really hard at that. Pretty sure Metallica didn't name the four horsmen.

[GonePostal]

cant wait for them to come around, be a change of beat for everybody

[Spider]

Some people say they are already present...

War -> Bush's anti-tero war
Famine -> The millions who starve every day
Death -> Well... Alot of people died lately... especially with the 9/11 etc.
Pestilence/Plague -> AID's

If it's true (probly aint) then these things will only get worse and worse... but then again god doesnt exist so... meh!

[GonePostal]

stuff like that has been happening for thousands of years so no.

and of course because spider says so god does not exist...goths suck

[Spider]

Prove me god exists... and then I'll let go of my non-belief...

[Mr1337Duck]

I've got the ultimate counter to their whole prove God exists thing. Prove the Big Bang happened. You make a tiny little universe sized bomb, I believe that the Big Bang happened. Simple, no?

That's the thing, God doesn't play by our rules. Who's to say he didn't make the world, put humans on it, call it Eden, get bored, put them somewhere, do a big bang to change the climate so the dinos could live there, kill them, stick humans back there, and life goes on as normal? You notice that it never says ANYTHING about what happened between the banishing and the new rules that would be placed, and the whole Cain/Abel thing.

[Infernus]

but but but... God has to exist, or else i've been lied to for the past 10 years...

ok no more sarcasm...

I don't trust the people of the Church... I mean seriously last year I saw a missionary trying to loot the poor box at my church, its all a business.

Anyway when I die I'm gonna lead my followers to Jupiter, where we will build a large society on Io. As our ranks grow in numbers I'll sit on my throne of skulls laughing at the burning orb of pity we call Earth.

[Happy lil Elf]

Yeah the thing is I could say the same thing about many [/i]many[/i] periods in history. Hell I could fins a few in the 20th century alone. Until I see four figures riding through the skies on horses and leaving death and destruction in their wake the Horsemen aren't here yet :p

[GonePostal]

nice end of sarcasm, jackass

edit: prove to me he doesnt exist

you cant, and i cant prove to you that he does

[JetRaiden]

I think this whole thing with the Four Horsemen is either:

a. an analogy
b. symbolism
c. a legend
d. a foreshadowing

[GonePostal]

wow...no shit, thats amazing 0_0

[JetRaiden]

:banplz:

[Indecisive]

Let me know if you need more explanation. I will be happy to go into it more.

go strygun. Stygun = Bibleman

Bibleman = http://www.radio.rai.it/radio1/golem/golem2001-2002/fantasie/images/illustrazioni/bibleman.jpg

No joke. ^bibleman.

[JetRaiden]

:lol:

I saw that once. he beats atheists over the head with a bible! BIBLEMAN AWAAAAYYYYY.

[Indecisive]

He was accually at my church once. Something broke tho. lmao. I think something exploded. :rofl:

[GonePostal]

:banplz:



:rofl: :hug:

[Happy lil Elf]

I've got the ultimate counter to their whole prove God exists thing. Prove the Big Bang happened. You make a tiny little universe sized bomb, I believe that the Big Bang happened. Simple, no?It would be, except for those of use who realize the big bang theory is just that-a theory. There are a lot of people who just say "Don't know, don't care". Thing is there are also a lot of people who get annoyed when people present their beliefs as cold hard fact.

The other big difference is that there is documented evidence to support the big bang theory. There is still no documented evidence of a God of any kind.

[GonePostal]

there is documented evidence of jesus though


some greedy arabs broke it in half though, thinkin there was gold inside, so now its in 2 pieces

[Manitou]

The horseman that I find interesting in that group is the one with the bow. 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
He was holding a bow but no arrow and yet he conquered. This typically symbolizes a ruler who comes and conquers by peaceful means. The person who comes and can offer the first world peace treaty and is able to guarantee it will rule the world.... for a time.

I prefer to be on the side of the One who can open the seals.
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals.

Watch the Lamb... watch the Lamb. :D

[GonePostal]

lol world peace HA! aint happening

btw how many seals were in diablo? lol just curious

[Happy lil Elf]

Ah, but documented evidence he was the son of God or documented evidence that someone named Jesus once lived?

[GonePostal]

im not sure i dont have enough info on the artifact

lets just go with somebody named jesus once lived

[Hamma]

This thread sucks, soon I will lock it

[GonePostal]

why not now?

[JetRaiden]

lol world peace HA! aint happening

:lol:

true, true, and I'll tell you why world peace will never happen.

Ok, you're alll familiar with the conflict between Palestine and Israel, right? Well, its been going on for thousands of years, and heres why it'll never stop. Why do Palestinians blow themselves up? Because the Israelis sent tanks into Palestine. Why did they send tanks to palestine? Because some Palestinian blew himself up. All it takes is 1 person to fuck up, and the peace process is destoyed for years. Think about it. Colin Powell got closer to peace between the 2 countries then anyone else has in years.
He had nice little papers ready to sign, and what happens? Some palestinian moron goes and blows himself up. THEN what do the Israelis do? Lauch a missle at a car, killing 5 palestinians. And so on. We won't get any closer to peace for at least 10-20 years.

Good luck. :groovy:

[Strygun]

Mani to the rescue! I was hoping you would step in to this conversation, I could use you on my side of the debate. :)

If we want to continue, I'll go dig up some more stuff.

Edit: the whole world peace thing: The day that someone gets world peace and/or becomes world leader, that's a big clue that the end of the world is near. By that time, all Christians will have left the world in the rapture of the church.
(see Book of Revelation)

Then everyone else will have 7 years to either accept Christ as their savior and live in Heaven, or die during the Tribulation and live forever in hell.

Also, something most people don't realize.. we will all live for eternity. However, we won't all live in the same place. :)

[GonePostal]

IMO the whole middle east is fucking crazy, full of fanatics defining a strict code of law through religion, and nobody wants to give up that lil chunk of "holy land" and they dont want to divide it. just crazy

[Indecisive]

Indeed. Some peeps will get the room next to the noisy ice machine. roflmao.

[Skullhead]

Fudge it I don't know what to say or have any reply.

The only thing I think we have to worry about is just blowing ourselves up with nukes
Alien invasion,
The sun exploding
Moon crashing into the Earth or the earth crashing into the sun,
Asteroid or a comet hitting the earth and destroying everything we know and love.


The universe is a big place and we are nothing but grain of sand in it.

The best thing we can do is colonize mars and some moons in the solar system and incase the earth blows up we can have a backup plan. Simple as that in my opinion.

[Happy lil Elf]

Thing is there are also a lot of people who get annoyed when people present their beliefs as cold hard fact.
For an example of presenting beliefs as fact see below.
Edit: the whole world peace thing: The day that someone gets world peace and/or becomes world leader, that's a big clue that the end of the world is near. By that time, all Christians will have left the world in the rapture of the church.
(see Book of Revelation)

Then everyone else will have 7 years to either accept Christ as their savior and live in Heaven, or die during the Tribulation and live forever in hell.

Also, something most people don't realize.. we will all live for eternity. However, we won't all live in the same place.

[Terran Sniper]

white horse of power, red of War, black of famine, and pale of Death

[Mr1337Duck]

The thing is that scientific documents of Jesus or God would likely be a holy relic. Take the Ten Commandments, we're pretty sure they still exist, but we haven't got any fucking clue where they are. They could be buried, hidden in monastary vaults, both, whatever.

[AztecWarrior]

I have faith. Some of you don't.

GG argument over, threadlock please

[GonePostal]

i believe but im not exactly sure on some things, and i dont exactly agree

[Kaikou]

r0o0o0o0ofl

Ph33R T3H MYT|-|IC4L |3I|3L3 S+()|2I3s!!!!!!

/me drops the match on the holy gas puddle and runs.

[GonePostal]

HEY!

has that holy gas puddle been properly blessed?

[Kaikou]

only one way to find out!

*zzzzzzzzip*

[GonePostal]

wait, are you peeing on it?

[Kaikou]

nah, was zipping on a fire retardant suit

[GonePostal]

oic, well thsi thread sucks, peace

[Kaikou]

Yeah, someone needs to say something like the line towards the beginning of the song "Judith" by APC and get it locked...Myuahahahahah

[Terran Sniper]

will someone lock this fucking thread already? if you wanna learn about the Four Horsemen, read Revelations 6:1-8.

[GonePostal]

i think im gonna do that...hamma, seriously can we get a lock over here?

[Strygun]

there's no reason to lock right now. if it turns into a flame war or otherwise, then we'll lock it.

Of course, hamma can lock it if he wants to just because he's a nazi.
http://staff.planetside-universe.com/strygun/nazi.png

[AztecWarrior]

This whole thread makes me :rolleyes:

Why? People are making it serious. Yes, all 2 of you are making this serious.

[Spee]

lets just go with somebody named jesus once lived


Fuck. He's still around. Go to LA and try and get your car fixed, you'll run into him. :D

[AztecWarrior]

Fuck. He's still around. Go to LA and try and get your car fixed, you'll run into him. :D

Latin people do not find it odd to be named after religious figures. Jesus Garcia, Juan Diego, Pablo Sanchez, etc. are all common names.

However, running into Jesus Smith is a bit of a shocker for a white man.

[GonePostal]

i want to merry a jewish women and name my child jesus

[FraudulentBob]

Just lock this thread before I put on my patented, Flame Suit�

[AztecWarrior]

i want to merry a jewish women and name my child jesus

People like this is what I'm talking about. An intenet forum is not conducive to serious debates, no matter how many mods are in the POL debate forum.

[Spee]

i want to merry a jewish women and name my child jesus


He would explode due to theological irony.

[Everay]

i want to point out, that theorys are things that are thought to be correct, and if the big bang theory isnt correct, that would say that all of physics is incorrect, or at least most of it, and lemme tell you, so far, it has all been shown to be correct.

and most likly they wont prove the big bang, not with 100% certainty, and the reason is, that when you look through a telescope, the most powerful telescopes, you look back in time, and theyve use hubble and what not, and they can only see about 500,000 years after the beggining of the universe, after that point, it all goes black.



HOWEVER! id like to also point out that when you see snow on your TV, that is evidence of the big bang, the residual radio waves left over after the event.

[Hamma]

I could care less, I just live my life however I want. Who cares about what comes before and after :p

[Infernus]

Take the Ten Commandments, we're pretty sure they still exist, but we haven't got any fucking clue where they are. They could be buried, hidden in monastary vaults, both, whatever.

Well aren't they inside the ark of the covenant? And when Hitlers goons tried to open it they all began to melt because the angel of death flew through them, but not the hero and the (not so hot) bitch, they both survived because they closed their eyes.

[Manitou]

The bottom line to this type conversation is what you choose to place your faith in. Some choose to place their faith in the Big Bang theory. Some choose to place their faith in the Special Creation theory. Some choose to believe there is no God, while others choose to believe there is. The beauty of it all is when we are able to tolerate each other's views and act with a measure of civility to those who believe differently.

I am not upset by people who claim that there is no God, but I find it odd that those who claim there is usually draw the most ire. I look at it this way:

If there is no God and I have lived my life believing there is, I have lost nothing. But... if there is a God and I have lived my life in disbelief, I have lost an eternity. Just a thought. :)

[Happy lil Elf]

If there is no God and I have lived my life believing there is, I have lost nothing. But... if there is a God and I have lived my life in disbelief, I have lost an eternity. Just a thought.
If I were God, I'd so smite people who believed in me "just in case" :lol:

[Strygun]

The bottom line to this type conversation is what you choose to place your faith in. Some choose to place their faith in the Big Bang theory. Some choose to place their faith in the Special Creation theory. Some choose to believe there is no God, while others choose to believe there is. The beauty of it all is when we are able to tolerate each other's views and act with a measure of civility to those who believe differently.

I am not upset by people who claim that there is no God, but I find it odd that those who claim there is usually draw the most ire. I look at it this way:

If there is no God and I have lived my life believing there is, I have lost nothing. But... if there is a God and I have lived my life in disbelief, I have lost an eternity. Just a thought. :)
wow.

well said, mani.

[Squeeky]

Mani is smart. :)

[AztecWarrior]

i want to point out, that theorys are things that are thought to be correct, and if the big bang theory isnt correct, that would say that all of physics is incorrect, or at least most of it, and lemme tell you, so far, it has all been shown to be correct.

and most likly they wont prove the big bang, not with 100% certainty, and the reason is, that when you look through a telescope, the most powerful telescopes, you look back in time, and theyve use hubble and what not, and they can only see about 500,000 years after the beggining of the universe, after that point, it all goes black.



HOWEVER! id like to also point out that when you see snow on your TV, that is evidence of the big bang, the residual radio waves left over after the event.

What if God created the Big Bang?!

The Creation story is symbolic. There should be no debate at all. God is a scientist.

[Spider]

DAMNNNN!!! I come back and there's a shitload more posts... no fucking way i'm reading all of this!

[Sputty]

Well aren't they inside the ark of the covenant? And when Hitlers goons tried to open it they all began to melt because the angel of death flew through them, but not the hero and the (not so hot) bitch, they both survived because they closed their eyes.
So, basically, we should go and use Squeeky to take it.

[Zodiac]

There supposed to come and burn shit down I think but my guess is that that the military would kill them before they did any real major damage so I wouldn't worry.

:rofl: :rofl: classic!