CR5's This happen on other Servers?

[Hamma]

Everytime the TR starts to take a foothold on another continent and has a nice offensive going, the moronic CR5's call the entire force back to the home continent because there is a base being hacked. Does this happen to other servers? Who cares about the home continents, there are 3 of them. If the TR has 2 of those let them take the third and make an offensive elsewhere.

Im sick and tired of the defensive play stance that the majority of the CR5's on emerald take.

[Phaden]

Yes it happens to the NC on Emerald as well. Its not a fun thing to be fighting and then suddenly be left almost alone against a mass of enemy forces.

[bryan25]

Ya happens all the time for NC on Emerald. For example we are taken one of our home conts back from a massive force and then the Cr5s say "Another one of are cont is being hacked" and everybody moves to that one. Alot of times we fight hard to take back a cont then everybody leaves just because the VS are hackin bases on solsar!? Even when we are about to lock a non home cont and a faction hacks a home cont everybody jumps on it likes it a big deal.

A HOME CONT ISNT ANY BETTER THEN A NON-HOME CONT! Why do we act like its such a big deal? If anything we should let them hack our home cont so we can locked theres then go defend our home cont cuzz it so much easier to get to, cuzz we have a direct link! :mad:

[SkunkPunk]

lmao i know same thing with our VS CR5s, except for one: TacticalCommand... hes in our outfit and we always go on offensive with him, bryan i think the thing you were talking about was us, oshur was being attacked by NC HARD, and we were having trouble holding them back so we put a hack on solsar and half the NC left oshur :D

[WritheNC]

I used to care about home conts. Now all I care about is a good fight. That's how I have fun and continue to play; if I didn't have that, no point in logging in, eh?

[Aen]

Our CR5s do the same crap. Writhe said it best. I just go where there is good fighting. Unfortunatley its usually where the CR5s say cause everyone else follows what they say. :(

[Hamma]

Make sure to say what server you are on.

[Happy lil Elf]

I'm getting real fucking sick of Solsar and Hossin. Every night it's either take two squads to an enemy continet and get kicked off after taking a base or two as 80 or so baddies show up out of nowhere or follow our CR5s and spend 6 hours in a deadlock on some home continent >_<

[aiwest420]

sigh, the NC CR5's on emerald will only recall forces if its a massive zerg.
ghost hack with no force warnings = cr5's go check it out themselves, if theres resistance, they'll get their outfit/squads to come resecure
multiple hacks, massive force warnings, gens and tubes down = recall forces.

A HOME CONT ISNT ANY BETTER THEN A NON-HOME CONT! remember, without our home cont links, you wouldnt be able to zerg vs/tr conts....

ps, i'd like to see you do a better job :boohoo:

[Acaila]

NC on markov. Me and my buddies play at a different time to most people, I am +10 GMT, and all we want is a good fight and we often get it. None of the huge low fps zerging fights, but often the good 50 vs 50 stuff going on. We never go to home continents to defend from a ninja hacker\squad, we go where the fight is.

[Indecisive]

Lately, vanu on emerald have been having a case of the Malones.......dammit...Wind needs to get his damn interweb access back.

[BDMJ]

I agree with what west said. I have to add that the NC cr5s need to get on the ball regarding offense a little more. Right now we lock the home continents then spread out. We should be moving as a more cohesive unit when on offense.

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[Diddy Mao]

It happen's to the NC but at the Same Degree We Usually Call people back like when they are at Gunuku or Sobek or Acan, Usually we know the second there is a hack and a Few Cr 5's Check the Situation's out and if seem's Dire WE call for Reinforcement's

[Black]

This doesnt happen on Konried server for NC not sure about TR and VS

[ghost018]

There's two NC CR5's on Johari that I really desipise. They make Globals like "ALL NC COME TO AMERISH WE NEED HELP!!!1111" and once people start coming they don't make any other broadcasts. Who the hell recalls an entire server of players and doesn't even care to lead them? There's a third CR5 that's pretty stupid....he spammed Global at least a dozen times saying "TIMMY! TIMMY! TIMMY! TIMMY!" in an assorment of colors.

I remember back when CR5 used to mean something, when < 10 players had it from an empire. Now, it's just pretty much something that anyone with enough time can get, no matter how much of a dumbass they are.

ghost

[Kikinchikin]

hamma relief will comesoon.. I will be cr 5 within a few weeks. Then you'll see things like this:

Ash: Everybody recall off of Cyssor Pwyll has a LARGE enemy force there!
WarB1atch: Ash is right recall although we've taken 3/4 of Hossin!
Me: STFU

[TheRagingGerbil]

/me Agrees with Happy, West and Bish.

[Black]

:lol: ya thats very true ^ (lilbird)

[Doppler]

Yea NC Johari seems to have a lot of CR 5 geniuses. ALthough we dont seem to suffer from some of the problems that other empires seem to complain of, for example Johari always seems to gravitate towards 1 continent brawl, more or less ignoring all else. I support this however our Cr5's (and to a lesser extent the rest of our empire) seems to get into this rutt where if our campaign hits the slightest bit of a snag we all end up defending a couple bases not trying to expland. It seems to be worse now since they nerfed the jack and made the other max's more godlike while simultaniously throwing us no bones. I dont blame everything o\n our equipment, however it is extremely hard to get a good offensive going if two tr pounder maxs can hold a tower indefinitely.

But yes a lot of our Cr5's seem to be big on concentrating our force to one cont, and then further concentrating it to one base, even yelling over continent command chat at people defending other bases to extricate and come attack that one base. I always find myself wondering, "why trade a tech plan for a bio lab".

Also I've noticed that Johari NC seem to be very anti disabling gens are spawn tubes, personally I hate having to garrison a spawn room with 10 guys when a few decimator shots to each tube better guarantee it's safety, when the fight has been going a while only unique kills count anyway so theres no reason to leave the spawns open and risk loosing the base.

[Happy lil Elf]

In many cases that's true West but I've seen a few try and call people back to defend Cyssor when there is one Vanu base (the one that's always a freaking Vanu base) no hacks on any other bases and no hotspots =\

[Diddy Mao]

I usually go and Investigate myself before worrying about Sending In the Zergling's.........They're.....Already........Here !!!!!!

[Fingerbob]

Wait till you get CR5, hamma, then maybe you'll understand a bit more about what's going on.

currently there's two camps in Emerald TR CR5. there's the "active command" group (myself, ash, hedron, aztek, Jungle, MCB, etc) who want to go for the daily win. this involves moving people around to push up the base count, and hopefully have a great fight while we're at it. then there's Morphius, Frank, and a couple of others who prefer to hit Ishundar or Forseral while it's being hammered / doubleteamed, pop-lock it, and bash away over the same base or two for the next few hours. I ain't saying either strat is right, it really boils down to how you want to play it.

as for getting people to recall to home continents, it should be very (and I mean VERY) rare that you'll get a recall order when there isn't at least 50 or so people to fight on that continent. the very first thing that happens when the enemy puts hacks on is that a couple of CR5s recall instantly to scout, pull in a squad or so to secure, and if that succeeds you folks will never even know it's happened. if we find there's 20+ people hitting the base, we'll /Comsan asking for help : normally this will bring in enough people to stop the hack. if the continent opens up, and we're getting a beating, then we'll global asking (I repeat ASKING) for help. we're not expecting everyone to suddenly drop what you're doing and hart in, although that is the most effective way to stop the enemy. but at the very least, you can guarantee there'll be a good fight when you arrive.

now, personally, I find the double-team continent bash a pain in the ass, so if we have cery locked, forseral locked, and ish is getting raped I'll take folks to searhus, or solsar, anywhere but Ish. but hey, that's just my strat.

[Scotty24]

Markov - VS

On Markov this doesn't happen as much. Almost to a fault our CR5's stay and fight until the bitter end. When we get beaten down on one front, we go back and start a fight somewhere else on the same continent. We usually end up all recalling and then coordinating a massive drop on a base with a lattice link.

Is kind of cool to see.

[Mango]

I believe the command structure needs to be re-done. When there are 20 CR5s on all wanting to do different things nothing ever really gets done. Us grunts need a voice too.
I think there should be a system in place that allows the election of a single leader, a system where everyone in a empire would vote. We could have elections once a month maybe and if the empire is dis-satisfied with the leader the could recall him or her with a majority vote. The leader would have the ability to turn off a dis-obedient CR5's global chat and would also other abilities like always being able to see thier empire's population distibution on each continent and the ability to assign a temporary commander in his absence.

I just think the empires need more structure and with an absolute leader i belive things will hopefully be more organized

[Scotty24]

Mango totally agree. There have been several ideas like that thrown around, I hope in the future they will put a little more thought into command structure and changing a commanders map etc... like the ability to see individual squad leaders, select them and possibly ask them where to go and give them an objective like taking out the gens or something.

Would be a great tool. Would make commanders something like from Savage or Natural Selection and they could do more commanding and less fighting.

[EarlyDawn]

Indeed. CR5s seem to have short-site-itis

[Diddy Mao]

We should Destroy Them all but me ;)

[bryan25]

lmao i know same thing with our VS CR5s, except for one: TacticalCommand... hes in our outfit and we always go on offensive with him, bryan i think the thing you were talking about was us, oshur was being attacked by NC HARD, and we were having trouble holding them back so we put a hack on solsar and half the NC left oshur :D


LOL some of the cr5s are kinda stupid like that :lol:

[Aen]

I agree with you Mango, but if we had an election for leaders, we would always have the same leaders. This could be good and bad. What if he was a good leader, but someone that just really started to lead squads and such were really great, what would we do then? We wouldnt ever know about the 2nd guy cuz the 1st leader has point and we would never see any other great leaders there might be.

Maybe just to elaborate on the election thing, there could be command ranks. @ anytime someone could type /rankpromote "name" and that person would get a Command "Vote". After so many they advance ranks and could then talk in Global/Cont./whatever based on their Command Rank.

Its kinda like the old one but this way the players as a majority would be picking the leaders. Of course there would have to be restrictions on voting. But we'll leave that technical stuff to the devs. :)

(I dont know if this has been said or not, its just an Idea.)

[Lise]

Well, this is one of the reasons I've removed myself from the Dragonwolves. I actually tend to agree with Fingerbob and the others for several reasons: first, if they issue a recall order I'm almost ALWAYS guaranteed a bang-up fight on that continent. Secondly, I guess this is just a nervous tick from being on Konried so long... but I usually go off to give the enemy something to shoot at. I've invaded a lot of continents hoping to see the enemy show up, only to be disappointed. I HATE it when it happens. Ergo, I extend the courtesy of shooty death to my enemies when they come to me in the hopes they'll do the same eventually.

[Hamma]

Wait till you get CR5, hamma, then maybe you'll understand a bit more about what's going on.

currently there's two camps in Emerald TR CR5. there's the "active command" group (myself, ash, hedron, aztek, Jungle, MCB, etc) who want to go for the daily win. this involves moving people around to push up the base count, and hopefully have a great fight while we're at it. then there's Morphius, Frank, and a couple of others who prefer to hit Ishundar or Forseral while it's being hammered / doubleteamed, pop-lock it, and bash away over the same base or two for the next few hours. I ain't saying either strat is right, it really boils down to how you want to play it.

as for getting people to recall to home continents, it should be very (and I mean VERY) rare that you'll get a recall order when there isn't at least 50 or so people to fight on that continent. the very first thing that happens when the enemy puts hacks on is that a couple of CR5s recall instantly to scout, pull in a squad or so to secure, and if that succeeds you folks will never even know it's happened. if we find there's 20+ people hitting the base, we'll /Comsan asking for help : normally this will bring in enough people to stop the hack. if the continent opens up, and we're getting a beating, then we'll global asking (I repeat ASKING) for help. we're not expecting everyone to suddenly drop what you're doing and hart in, although that is the most effective way to stop the enemy. but at the very least, you can guarantee there'll be a good fight when you arrive.

now, personally, I find the double-team continent bash a pain in the ass, so if we have cery locked, forseral locked, and ish is getting raped I'll take folks to searhus, or solsar, anywhere but Ish. but hey, that's just my strat. Good to hear what is actually going on behind the scenes, thanks for that post.

I still disagree in zerging tactics.. battles can be won other than by zerg ;)

edit: check your PM's Fingerbob