What is agility armor?

[Kyonye]

whats the point of agility armor? whats its special abilities? tell me everything you know please.

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[Warborn]

Pilot armor.

[Sputty]

It's a decent upgrade to the standard armor.

[Camping Carl]

no armor(default) = standard (http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=19&img_id=4)
light armor = agile exosuit (http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=19&img_id=7)
medium armor = reinforced exosuit (http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=19&img_id=8)
heavy armor = max suit (http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=19&img_id=2)
stealth armor = stealth suit (http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=19&img_id=9)

[NapalmEnima]

Everyone (but the MAX?) has a knife slot

Everyone has 100 health (for comparison purposes), and 100 stamina.

Stealth suit: Tiny inventory (3x9? unknown), NO armor points at all, 1 pistol slot. Totally cloaked when not moving, more visible as you move faster. No limit on cloaking time.

Standard suit: 6x9 inventory, 25 armor, 1 pistol, 1 rifle slot.

Agile Exosuit: 9x9 inventory (quite decent), 50 armor, 2 pistols, 1 rifle

Reinforced Exosuit: bigger(12x9? unknown) inventory, 100 armor, 2 pistols, 2 rifles.

The MAXes are empire specific. The VS max has at least 650 (possibly 850, it's hard to read the screenshots) armor, a huge inventory (specificis unknown), and cannot use regular equipment. Each empire has 3 MAX varients, with different weapons, one for AA, one for anti-vehicular, and one for anti-personnel. Weep for the poor fools who run into a max designed to take them out.

MAXes also have a "sprint" ability which allows them to travel at around 70kph (I've heard), but greatly limits their turning ability.

There is also an implant called "Surge" that will allow anyone with it to run faster. The heavier your armor, the faster it drains stamina. Surge + MAX = tired soldier.

It's quite possible that armor will alter your movement speed, but nothing has specifically been said about it, save for the MAX armor, which is said to feel "cumbersome".

As Warborn mentioned, the Agile exosuit is the only armor that can pilot all vehicles. It's not known what limits are placed on the other armors, save the MAX. MAXes can't pilot anything, and can only be passengers in the Galaxy (air transport) and Sunderer (full squad APC). Each can hold 2 MAXes. Their "sprint" is designed to compensate for this.

That's about it for armors... oh, one other thing about MAXes... weapons that can lock onto vehicles can also lock onto MAXes. For all intents and purposes, MAXes are vehicles (except you can't fit a tank inside a base).

[Lexington_Steele]

But what I am wondering is two things:

1) Will reinforced armor be any slower than the Agile exosuit?

2) What vehicles can't the reinforced armor pilot? (specifically, can reinforced armor pilot the mosquito?)

[afex]

Originally posted by Lexington_Steele
1) Will reinforced armor be any slower than the Agile exosuit?

2) What vehicles can't the reinforced armor pilot? (specifically, can reinforced armor pilot the mosquito?)

-duh

-who knows

[Warborn]

1) Will reinforced armor be any slower than the Agile exosuit?

I strongly doubt it. It doesn't make sense. Yes, ok, in a realism sense it makes sense, but in a game design sense, not really. You might say "well, they'd be faster to compensate for their lack of armor", but the fact of the matter is that they're not suppose to be as effective at combat as Reinforced armor. There shouldn't be anything to compensate for it in the area of fighting. Their compensation for being weaker than Reinforced is that they can pilot things/more things than Reinforced.

2) What vehicles can't the reinforced armor pilot? (specifically, can reinforced armor pilot the mosquito?)

I'd be surprised if Reinforced could pilot any aircraft, or even any vehicles at all.

[Moloch]

why so surprised if reinforced could pilot things? look at the pics, it is only different in that it has leg armor, slightly thicker armor on the torso, and a bigger helmet. I think of the Agile exo as the scout in T2, the reinforced as the Assault in t2, and the MAX as a bigger juggernaut. Assaults could pilot anything, so can scouts.

Also, the reinforced isn't supposed to be "more combat effective" just it suits a different playing style. Run faster, but take less, or run slower, but take more and carry more. I'll bet it is the same BEPs for agile and reinforced, or only slightly more for reinforced.

[FraBaktos]

I don't remember assault (medium armor) being able to use the little hover bike and shrike

[chaos1428]

If the Reinforced can pilot the Galaxy, and a Lightning, then I will be a happy soldier

[Warborn]

why so surprised if reinforced could pilot things?

Think it'd be fun if you were fighting a tank, and just before you take it out, out pops a guy in Reinforced armor with a minigun and whatever else, ready to blow you away?

Also, if Reinforced could pilot anything, there'd be no reason to have Agile armor in the game. It'd be a waste of time modeling and skinning it, because virtually everyone would either stick with no armor if they are just going to pilot, or go straight to Reinforced and be a tank within a tank, so to speak.

look at the pics, it is only different in that it has leg armor, slightly thicker armor on the torso, and a bigger helmet.

The helmets also totally screw with peripheral vision, if you want to get into realism. You could not effectively fly an aircraft using any of the Factions' Reinforced helmets.

Also, the reinforced isn't supposed to be "more combat effective" just it suits a different playing style.

No, it's suppose to be more combat effective. Stuff in PS costs cert points to be able to use. What's the point if forking over your hard-earned cert points if Reinforced armor is ultimately no more combat effective than Agile? Just to let you carry more? Hm, nice, more for them to loot then I suppose. That's definitely worth spending certs on.

I think of the Agile exo as the scout in T2, the reinforced as the Assault in t2, and the MAX as a bigger juggernaut. Assaults could pilot anything, so can scouts.

Tribes was a game of different armor = different playstyles, because armor and whatever else was essentially free. Everyone could access it from the get-go. But this isn't Tribes, and Tribes gameplay doesn't apply to PS. Armor needs to be purchased with cert points, and unless you expect Reinforced armor to be the pack-mule of Planetside, there's going to have to be a clear combat advantage to someone in Reinforced over someone in Agile.

[Zatrais]

Personally i think that the Reinforced armor will be able to drive "open" vehicles: buggies and maybee AMS. I hope it will be to bulky to use annything else. To big to fit in a cockpit and the inside of a tank.

[Kalam]

http://planetside-universe.com/media/viewer.php?cat_id=34&img_id=12

hope they changed this, cause I do not think it would be nice if reinforced could handel a Mosquito

[Hamma]

Thats an old screenie.

But in all honesty we arent sure what can fit in what. :huh:

[BLuE_ZeRO]

I'm thinking something along the lines of that should be a dev question Hamma :D

[Lexington_Steele]

I just hope there is a significant reason to actually use the agile exosuit (a noticable speed difference between it and the reinforced, and a significant number of vehicles that can't be piloted by the reinforced.)

Conceiveable, it will just become a dummy cert that is a prerequisite for getting the reinforced.

[Kalam]

If only normal and agile armor could use the Bolt Driver it would be a reason to use it.

[Lexington_Steele]

Originally posted by Kalam
If only normal and agile armor could use the Bolt Driver it would be a reason to use it.

I can guarentee that the reinforced armor can carry the bolt driver. In fact, someone in reinforced armor can carry two bolt drivers if they really want.

[�io]

I would hope and LOVE it though if they make bolt driver (i.e. sniping) an agile armor only job, having a sniper with a rocket launcher just seems overpowered to me.

[Warborn]

^

Agreed.

[Moloch]

An agile could pop out of a tank with a minigun too. You're right about the peripheral vision thing, hadn't thought o' that. The agile's visor curves around, whilst the reinforce ddoesn't (at leats in NC). Still, why call it agile if it wasn't faster or more maneuverable? alzo, if you use the peripheral argument, then I can use the armor weight argument. Although, I doubt they will restrict your peripheral vision cu you can't move your eyes without your entire body. I liked Outwars, where even though you were just an armored person, you could move your torso independently of your body, to a certain degree. also, in hitman you could switch to an "Eyes move only" mode which was cool.

[Warborn]

The agile's visor curves around, whilst the reinforce ddoesn't (at leats in NC).

All Reinforced armor has severely restricted vision, in a real-world sense. In-game they wouldn't change anything though, as it wouldn't make the game any better. The Agile armors on the other hand have wide-open visors/goggles.

An agile could pop out of a tank with a minigun too.

Yes, but he'd have half the armor value that the Reinforced guy does, and he wouldn't have a minigun AND an anti-armor weapon too (Reinforced has 2 weapon slots). Then again, the "heavy weapon" for each Faction may be restricted to Reinforced armor. I can't imagine anyone slinging the minigun like you would a rifle, and the picture of the Terran guy in Reinforced with a minigun didn't show him with any other weapon on his back.

Still, why call it agile if it wasn't faster or more maneuverable?

Maybe because it's agile in the sense that it can pilot or use any piece of equipment in the game. Not jumping from tree to tree agile, but comparatively agile.

I'd just like to point out, though, that you'd have to have a huge speed difference between Agile and Reinforced armor if you were looking for them to be roughly equivalent in combat. This isn't Tribes, so there is no jumpjet factor. The Reinforced would have to be ungodly slow, or the Agile incredibly fast, to make up for the difference. I'm not trying to argue that Agile shouldn't be faster than Reinforced, just that it shouldn't be faster to the degree that it would make fighting one very difficult if you were in Reinforced armor, to the point where your extra armor doesn't really make much of a difference.

[Dragoon999]

From what you guys are saying it seems to me that you begin at standard, then you use cert points to get agile, then once you have agile you get medium, and then once you get medium you get MAX. Is it like that, or do you just get the certs directly to the armor you want? Sorry im new to PS but it looks damn sweet :)

[Zatrais]

Regarding the empire heavy assault weapons, I got a hunch that they will take up 2 rifle slots... *shrug* just makes sense to me that a damn minigun should use up more room than a cycler, and well packing a minigun into the cockpit of a mosquito is going to be hard to explain =P

Edit:
Dragoon999: each type of armor is aquired indivudually whitout prior requierments, don't have to have agile to get reinforced.

[SandTrout]

Agile will probably be faster than reinforced, but not enough to make it just as good in combat. The speed will porbably make it more effective as a hit-and-run or scout than reinforced, while the more limited inventory, 1 rifle, and lower armor make it less effective in a combat situation. Especialy when you're not flying around in a jet-pack. The light armors in Tribes were arguably the most effective fighters because they could avoid being hit so much due to jetpacks. When you're just strafeing and runing in an open field, speed makes less of a difference.

Warborn, your arguement about agile refering to ability to use equipment doesn't apply. Agile refers to freedom of movent in your limbs. If it just allowed for more equipment use, it would make more sense to name it "Dexterouse exo-suit", or simply "light exo-suit".

most likely there is a reason for choseing any one armor over another(except standard) even if you had unlimited certs.

IE: Rein over MAX or agile because its faster than a MAX(probably), more armor than an agile, and can carry a more varried set of weapons. It also can probably pilot/drive some of the vehichles. You also cant use equipment as a MAX. Makes a good general infantryman.

MAX because of sheer firepower and armor, plus you have the greatest AA, AT, or AI abbility of all infantry. Makes a good support unit.

Agile over rein or MAX because it can pilot anything, can have a decent weapon, and is the fastest(probably) infantry in the game. Makes a good scout/pilot.

The armors are for different styles of play, because there should be a reason to choose one over the others at different times.

BTW, I've seen screeshots of Agile and Standard armors useing chainguns and jackhamers, but you have to use a lot of certs to get a tank, agile, and heavy assault. They would probably also have repair cert and/or hacking.

[SandTrout]

Also, check the screenshots, Heavy-assault weapons just take up 1 rifle slot. There is one shot of a TR Rein with a out and a sweeper-shotgun on his back.

[Moloch]

I basically agree with sandy.

[Warborn]

You don't know whether heavy weapons count as one rifle slot or two, even if you saw it in a pre-Beta screenshot. I'd put money that every heavy weapon -- missile launcher to minigun -- takes two rifle slots.

[SandTrout]

we shall see.

[thedarKforce]

just to clarify

Originally posted by FraBaktos
I don't remember assault (medium armor) being able to use the little hover bike and shrike

mediums could pilot Shikes in T2 but they couldnt get the cycle. Just wanted to crea this up