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Veteran
2003-11-10, 12:32 PM
People have been pressing a big flaw in PlanetSide (I'll refrain from saying 'exploit') and have been mowing people down in their Reavers and Mosquitos.

It turns out that even at high speeds, contacting the ground doesn't lead to the destruction of the aircraft. In aviation circles we call that, "crashing and burning" but in PlanetSide, it's called "mowing".

Now I understand that soon a vehicle will lose a lot of inertia when you hit an infantry, but doesn't it stand to logic that you should also lose a lot of momentum (aka crash) by hitting the ground?

Yes, I know mines will blow them up, but can you really respect the argument that you should put down landmines to stop aircraft from riding the surface, hitting people with their hulls? It doesn't sound quite right.

Just venting.

ZjinPS
2003-11-10, 12:36 PM
I've often thought about that too. I guess since they are all VTOL aircraft airspeed isn't a deciding factor in flight. It seems scrubing the deck at 105 KPH in a reaver isnt either. :confused:

MuNsTeR
2003-11-10, 12:43 PM
Thats what i only do in my mosquito lol. thats why i made the outfit called the kamikaze mosquitos :) the only problem is you die if you kill a max....

Doppler
2003-11-10, 12:45 PM
This has been around a while, and yes its irritating, but since this game really has no flight model to speak of theres not a lot that can be done about it. Since momentum is not required for flight in this game momentum killer whouldnt have a whole lot of affect.

Duffman
2003-11-10, 12:54 PM
i dont know if it was in beta where you could hit someone and take almost the same dmg a tank does. Atleast now you take quite a bit of damage from hitting someone

Madcow
2003-11-10, 01:00 PM
I find myself mowing people in my mossy without really even trying to sometimes. Because of the way the gun is built, you have to fly in the direction you are shooting. Your only other option is to hover and follow somebody with your gun, usually a really good way of getting blown out of the air. So you start shooting at somebody and flying in their direction. Assuming they are running away, you will eventually level out and be skimming the ground, flying towards the soldier and firing. As the mossy flies faster than the soldier runs, I'll often run them down before enough bullets get into them to kill them. I don't really know of a way to prevent it from happening without totally revamping the targetting system for the gun.

BDMJ
2003-11-10, 02:21 PM
I do this in my liberator sometimes. It is usually when I see a softy on a hilltop and I don't want to waste ammo on him. Also its a really good way to kill an AA max, as you might not have enough time to kill him with the gun before he does fatal damage to you.

Mordith
2003-11-10, 04:33 PM
lol. I only mow with my skeeter if it's a MAX because let's face it. A mosquito cannot take on a MAX without mowing it. heh. Oh well. I get some great tells because of it.

STEALTHKILLER
2003-11-10, 04:48 PM
Hitting the ground with a airplane wont kill it, hitting a tree will.

Tegadil
2003-11-10, 05:33 PM
I find myself mowing people in my mossy without really even trying to sometimes. Because of the way the gun is built, you have to fly in the direction you are shooting. Your only other option is to hover and follow somebody with your gun, usually a really good way of getting blown out of the air. So you start shooting at somebody and flying in their direction. Assuming they are running away, you will eventually level out and be skimming the ground, flying towards the soldier and firing. As the mossy flies faster than the soldier runs, I'll often run them down before enough bullets get into them to kill them. I don't really know of a way to prevent it from happening without totally revamping the targetting system for the gun.

If your keyboard allows it (mine hates 3 buttons being pressed at once), you can do a strafing run of sorts. Really simple, too. Just hold the increase elevation, look down (at 45 degrees or something) and hold forward. With any luck, the increase elevation will offset the downward path. Kinda like flying at an angle to offset winds IRL.

JetRaiden
2003-11-10, 05:39 PM
I know its annoying, but you dont see it often enough to rant about it on a regular basis. Btw, liberator is the BEST for this.

Hamma
2003-11-10, 06:07 PM
It doesent bother me, it was so easy in T2 but in PS its a bit harder, you actually take damage usually.

NNY
2003-11-11, 12:11 AM
when i mow with my skeeter i never get more then one kill b4 i get shot down or crash on the guy im trying to kill

Rayder
2003-11-11, 12:42 AM
I once mowed down a guy on a hill with my skeeter, I had about less than a quarter of my health left... so I decided to run into a tree and, much to my surprise, killed a guy that was coming out of the ams that happend to be under it.

MuNsTeR
2003-11-11, 01:10 AM
once i got a 2 in 1 kill.. 1 max and 1 engi healing max :P

FraudulentBob
2003-11-11, 01:22 AM
Mow with a Liberator.

Killed 8 guys at a vehicle terminal and made it to an Air Tower.

BDMJ
2003-11-11, 01:33 AM
Mowing with the lib is advantageous because it takes so damn long to turn around for a second pass. It's best to make sure they all die on the first run so you don't have to do it over ;)

Of course playing A-10 with the lib's front gun is nothing short of amazing.

Hamma
2003-11-11, 01:46 AM
Your sigs are going to get mowed down probably.

Ait'al
2003-11-11, 01:49 AM
The plane creators where avid slolum skiers!

flypengy
2003-11-11, 03:40 AM
I think the massive amount of damage a mosq/reaver takes keeps them from being over powered in this area.

Veteran
2003-11-11, 08:04 AM
I don't. You get five minutes to mow in your Reaver before you can just get a new one and fly back to the yard. Or you can mow out a Reaver, get a Mosquito, and repeat.

Mowing is one of those things that should fall under 'game balance'. It may seem somewhat plausible since they are VTOLs, but in reality it's cheap and weak.

Just my opinion.

Acaila
2003-11-11, 01:29 PM
I don't think it is over powered in any way. Anyone who gets a better kill count mowing in Reavers or Skeeters should drop the cert. I just don't get how that can be done. You have to aim at them to mow them, why not just shoot them? You don't have to get close, they die faster, you don't take damage. Everybody wins. Except the person who dies.

Rayder
2003-11-11, 03:11 PM
Your sigs are going to get mowed down probably.

Oh, Hamma breaks out a funny one.

Veteran
2003-11-11, 08:15 PM
Why would you blow a load of Reaver rockets when you can just mow them?

Kikinchikin
2003-11-11, 09:30 PM
If you are moving very fast at all (not sure on an exact number) you will die with the other person. However if your just going like less than half speed you will take a lot of damage.