A time to gloat and a time to NOT gloat.

[BadAsh]

Last night I had an unusual rash of people who felt the need to taunt me after they got a kill. It amuses me that some players feel the need to taunt those they kill when using a relatively lame attack or tactic. The following are few examples of things that you should not be taunting anyone about as they require virtually no �skill� to accomplish.

A vehicle driver mowing down infantry. This takes no talent and any idiot with vehicle cert can do that� So keep your �owned� comments to yourself please, you�ve impressed no one especially if you are in a Magrider.

A CE that places a boomer at a turn in a hallway or other out-of-view location, who then hides (usually in an infiltrator suit) at a safe distance, and presses the detonator button when an enemy rounds the corner... Please keep your �It�s about the Art� comments to yourself. Any talent less moron can kill in that way. Patience is required, but not �skill�.

An Infiltrator who sneaks behind you with an AMP. Pretty much as long as you are smart and approach your prey from behind, move quietly, and show some basic patience anyone can pull this off. So sneaking a sniper from behind while invisible with a quick kill weapon like the AMP does not constitute a �skill kill� so keep that /tell gloat to yourself.

Other cases are where you have a heavy advantage in a battle are also times to NOT gloat. Let�s say you are in a heavy tank rolling to the next base and you come across a guy in a Rexo with medium assault weapons. The only one here with any possible gloating rights is the infantry guy if he somehow escapes with his hide. A sniper shooting at a non-sniper at extreme range is another example. Either you kill him or he escapes.

To me skill is when your opponent has even odds to fight back. If you are in a position to kill without equal risk to yourself then you are in NO position to gloat or brag. Any buffoon can win if given enough advantage.

BadAsh

Note of Interest: �The Artist� � my slightly sarcastic name for him - from the above boomer kill taunt ate my knife 4 times before leaving the area. It was fun, my tactics changed from defending the base with my Rexo/MCG/Striker to �Artist hunting� with an Infiltration suit, Knife, Dark Sight, and Melee Booster. Note of Interest #2: �The Artist� became very silent�. What? No more taunting? LOL :)

[Madcow]

The only two really bad ones I had:

I was in reinforced and had HART dropped into the middle of a bad area, before the Striker nerf. I was the only TR on my map and knew it was either a long hoof or take out as many as I could before they killed me and gave me a good spawn point. I started launching Strikers at a nearby Lightning, and blew it up just as a Vanguard gunner shelled me. He gave me the "Owned!" comment as if he'd really accomplished something.

The other one happened just the other night. I was in my Vanu MAX and jumped to the top of a tower while under heavy fire. I landed on the walkway and a Pounder MAX was behind me shelling me as I landed. He killed me right as I turned around, and then an infantry turned the corner behind him and gave me some sort of "Owned" comment. The guy hadn't fired a shot.

[Spee]

I never /t gloat. However, when I do get killed by HA ( a LOT), I always send a tell to them just saying 'Hey.' Nothing insulting, just a hello.

[InfiniteStorm]

I've never gotten a /t gloat but I have gotten 3-4 accusations of cheating. This kinda makes me feel pretty good cause I don't cheat and the person I killed thought I didn't something well enough to be cheating.

FYI. I hate when people are killed and they immediately jump to the conclusion that everytime they are killed that person must be using a cheat since they obviously have so much more skill than everyone and there is no way that on neutral ground my wielding of a lasher and them wielding a JH/MCG I should win against their superiority. :rolleyes:

[Queensidecastle]

I love it when I get tells and

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When a Reinforced HA using darklight kills me after I left them with 0 health and armor. :D Someone always finds them limping and kills them a few seconds later anyways

[BDMJ]

Damn, lots of anger for cloakers!

I do the boomer + infil thing, and if your opponent is aware of your presence it is difficult. When your opponent has darklight and it actively hunting you boomering is a test of skill. For one thing, boomers are large and yellow (not hard to miss) and your opponent has to not only miss the large yellow high explosive, but also must move close enough to it that you can kill them. Add to that the fact that placing a boomer places a HUGE FUCKING TARGET on an infiltrators head due to the green glow. I agree that an amp in the back is cheesy, but so is the whole USING A GODDAMN HA WEAPON thing. Amping an aware opponent is challenging however.

[Ait'al]

He gave me the "Owned!" comment as if he'd really accomplished something.

he wasnt saying you owned him? for geting him?

[Madcow]

Nope, I blew up a Lightning. I got killed by a Vanguard gunner. He was very proud, apparently.

[TheRagingGerbil]

I got an "owned" gloat from a mini-chaingunner the other night. I was chillin' in a corner of a courtyard in my inf suit when this guy runs directly at me from the other side and blasts the shit out of me. Gloats to me then puts me on ignore.

I agree with you 100% Ash. I don't think I've ever sent a gloat tell come to think of it...Oh, but I should have sent one here recently.

I snuck up behind this Rexo and despatched him with my Mag before he even knew what hit him. As I turned around during my reload, I got a face full of red tracers as another Rexo/Chaingunner was surging at me. I kicked in surge and strafe charged him to the right. Fired once, then leaped into the air. I got one more shot as he pasted, hit the ground and nailed the next two as I circled to the right. I cheered at my screen as I got ran over by a Prowler. That would have been a moment to gloat.

[Spee]

I like it when a surging Rexo with a JH calls me a coward for using Plasma 'Nades in my inf suit. :rolleyes:


Speaking of which, I racked up about 20 kills tonight with those damn things :D

[Hamma]

I get /t's constantly usually harassing me. :p

[Nimbus]

I've only ever gloated once, and thats because I took out a fully armored van with my lightning. That was quite a while ago, maybe 2 months.

Normally if I talk to somebody from the opposition I'm complimenting them on the way they killed me. Although one time I just started talking to somebody for no reason, we didn't even realize we were enemies until like an hour later we actually found each other.

[BDMJ]

*sends a tell harassing hamma :p

[kidriot]

I have pwned and will continue to pwn for as long as I deem u need pwning

signed, the kid

[JuSTCHiLLiN]

The only taunting I do is if someone tells me first. I think it's classless. I do have a local macro "MY SUPRESSOR OWNZ" that I spam when I come out into a camped spawn room and I get a kill.

These screens are from a few months ago. I came down into the basement at Faro started killing guys, I then noticed them not releasing so I hid out of sight and waited for the med ap sound. I pop out, kill the cloaker med, and then get the following:

The kill shot:
http://www3.telus.net/justchillin/planetside/jcowns1.gif

The tells:
http://www3.telus.net/justchillin/planetside/jcowns2.gif

If some noob wants to taunt me for kicking their ass fine go ahead I guess.

[Jagd]

Aww, Ash gets fragged by infiltrators a lot and is all bitter. :p

If they didn't have a point, it wouldn't rile you up enough to post about. And AMP kills can be bloody difficult to pull off, try them some time. Patience is a skill, one of the rarest ones on the battlefield.

[JuSTCHiLLiN]

Aww, Ash gets fragged by infiltrators a lot and is all bitter. :p

If they didn't have a point, it wouldn't rile you up enough to post about. And AMP kills can be bloody difficult to pull off, try them some time. Patience is a skill, one of the rarest ones on the battlefield.

Is that your in-game name? I'd like to preemptive ignore you.

[mupp]

I made a gloat tell after killing a Sunderer as an infiltrator... with a spiker...

was that appropriate?

[BadAsh]

Aww, Ash gets fragged by infiltrators a lot and is all bitter. :p

If they didn't have a point, it wouldn't rile you up enough to post about. And AMP kills can be bloody difficult to pull off, try them some time. Patience is a skill, one of the rarest ones on the battlefield.

Actually, I usually take infiltrators out left and right in the game. Once I got Dark Sight it's been pretty easy to spank them in droves. So I'm in no way bitter about anyting.

I just think its moronic to gloat about killing someone from behind who can't see you in the first place. Seems to me you SHOULD get a kill in that situation, so having basic compitence is nothing to brag about. And that was the point of my post.

I have the infiltrator cert and I use it often, I just don't claim skill with a sneak attack like that. There is nothing wrong with it either. It's a fun part of the game. Oh and BTW the AMP is VERY EASY to get kills with in that manner. If you don't kill someone with that tactic, perhaps its time to find something else to do that you might be better at like deploying an AMS, making ANT runs, or staying at base with a glue gun to help with repairs. ;)

BadAsh

[Veteran]

Artist hunting.. hehe that's rich.

My opinion is that gloating is poor sportsmanship, and in a game with no cash prizes, losing the moral victory is tantamount to defeat.

Some people are just snotty though, just ignore them and don't let their attempts at psychological destabilization work. It's a game, meant to be fun, not a sport, and even if it were, sportsmanship would still be the ruler by which to measure a player's worth.

[Jagd]

If you're dumb enough to stop moving long enough that an infiltrator can AMP you in the head they have every reason to gloat. If they kill you while you're on the run, then doubly so. Personally I rarely send gloat tells unless I've been owning the same few enemies repeatedly while soloing, but I do like to V-V-Z on those choice one-off kills.

What harm is there in that? And Veteran, poor sportsmanship? This game is about war, all's fair. :boohoo:

[flypengy]

Infil is hard. Anyone that thinks it is a cowardly or easy thing to do obviously has never been one.
One plasma nade to kill you.
One JH shot to kill you.
Lasher spam insta ownz you.
MCG makes very quick work.
One sniper shot to kill you.

And almost every single person has DL and audio amp. Along with the interlink facility benefits...

If someone is an infil and is successful at it, they are a far better player than you.

[Jagd]

:thumbsup:

[BadAsh]

Infil is hard. Anyone that thinks it is a cowardly or easy thing to do obviously has never been one.
One plasma nade to kill you.
One JH shot to kill you.
Lasher spam insta ownz you.
MCG makes very quick work.
One sniper shot to kill you.

And almost every single person has DL and audio amp. Along with the interlink facility benefits...

If someone is an infil and is successful at it, they are a far better player than you.

I never said anything about cowardice... my post was a bout gloating... this is a game of teamwork, tactics, and logistics more than individual killing skill. In many cases getting a kill or dying is like playing Rock-Paper-Scissors. "1-2-3 Awe, you are in a Vanguard and I'm Infantry... OR 1-2-3 Yeah, You are in a Harasser and I am in a Reaver... OR 1-2-3...etc." So gloating over kills like this is asinine... you get the point now... hopefully :)

Being a good infiltrator is about being smart and realizing your strengths and weaknesses. Of course if you do a frontal assault you will get owned by all of the heavy assault weapons you listed above. Engaging those troops is suicide, so of course it's hard if you try and play that way...

The smart infiltrators usually play either ghost hackers or assassins behind enemy lines murdering snipers and other targets of opportunity. The way I play is I duke it out in my base with my Rexo/MCG/Striker set up, if I see an excess of enemy snipers or the snipers start giving me a hard time I switch to infiltrator/assassin.

I move to the mountains taking a long out of the way route and come from behind. After surveying the situation I pick a target that I can kill and either get away OR kill and make the kill relatively unnoticed (in a huge battle with all the noise and action as distraction cover this is easily achieved). It's all about hit and run and picking your targets wisely. If you stay in the same area you will eventually get hunted down, so strike, fall back, and wait or move on� another kill will present itself.

Also, in many cases the snipers won't have audio amp they will pick advanced targeting or range magnifier and when they are zooming in with their scopes dark light is useless. Further, since they are in the mountains, you are out of the range of interlink facility benefits. Stay alert and if you see them reacting to you... Surge the hell out of Dodge...

Also, keep in mind as an Infiltrator you are FRAGILE. Invisibility is your armor and surprise is your weapon. So don�t stand near visible troops or vehicles that might draw enemy fire. It�s easy to get caught in the crossfire or take collateral damage from splash damage attacks.

It's all about picking YOUR battle ground and maximizing your strengths. So pick your fights, don't get yourself in a position that the fight picks you.

My kill per death ratio is highest when playing an infiltrator over any other body armor type. I usually get at least 3 to 5 kills every time I head out before I get taken down.

BadAsh

[TeraHertz]

I quite liked the trick an infil used on me as I assaulted a back door on my own. I took out the two guys defending the door on the outside then went to hack my way in. I started taking shots so jumped out of my hack and shot at the infil outline that was rapidly zooming away (surge I presume.) Unfotunaley the guy had dropped a spitfire, THATS what had been shooting at me. I died since I was on low health from the first two guys.

THAT, deserved a /tell OWNED.

[Motorhead]

the one that really gets my goat is when I get an "I'm better than you" from guys I just killed...wtf?

[Kenney]

I kill cloakers all the time with my Bolt Driver, which isn't a very hard thing to do. But atleast im not a asshole and send them tells telling them they suck.

[Queensidecastle]

Actually, I usually take infiltrators out left and right in the game. Once I got Dark Sight it's been pretty easy to spank them in droves. So I'm in no way bitter about anyting

That was kinda my point earlier. Some jackass with Reinforced/HA using darklight thinks they have skill when they kill an Infil and sends a gloat tell like it is something to be proud of. You should be ashamed if you spot an infil and cant kill them. What really makes my day is when I kill them anyways in spite of such an advantage.

[Dharkbayne]

I killed a reaver with a bolt driver once, kicked ass, TR Chaingun max with Beameri n beta in an inf suit in the downstairs of a tower, point blank kill on an inf, and a rexo, with bolty, those I think would be OWNED material