AMD or Pentium?

[ZionsFire]

Which do you go with? For me its AMD ALL THE WAY!

Goddammit forgot the poll.

[NoSurrender]

i have P4 but im buliding a AMD system because its cheaper

[Daleon]

AMD64 for teh win!

[Ait'al]

just wait for Intel's 64 desktop chip.IE the Pentium V 8)

Youll sing a new tune. :brow:

[Daleon]

Heh, the P5? What Itanium? The prescott is their next generation of consumer CPU's for quite a while and its not 64.

[keaoi]

AMD64 for teh win!

I can hear the gears of the Beast grinding to a halt. An Empire of evil will fall, while a new order for the people reigns. Technology will no longer be held back by profit margins and ignorant CEOs.

This sounds like Microsoft died. :rofl:

AMD ALL TEH WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F the Intel. itaniums stand not againist the might of the Athlon64. REJOICE!

[Ait'al]

just give them a year or two. lol Theyll make one eventually.

If they did it probly be pretty good too. If there smart.

MYbe theyl be back in line with the 386's. 8)

[Rbstr]

Intel still has higher preformance thant AMD unless you get the 64 FX chip but it realy have bad chipsets and stuff right now. and I want my 3.2 ghz Presscott that will pwn all! did you read my thread on the 2.8? it sounds like its goin to make a very good chip

[Daleon]

I think when you see Windows64 playing UT2004/64 you will be changing your mind. Hopefully DM3 will also support 64.

[Rbstr]

Well the price of a 64 chip( the 3.2 ghx P4/Presscots will be $300 next summer) adn the fact the mobo's are still first gen makes me stick to intel for a while, next time i do the Mobo/mem/CPU/vidcard upgrade all at the same time i might change my mind. Via is comming out with a new Rambus P4 chipset that will use the 1100 mhz( or about that ) stuff, it blows ddr400 and beats ddr500 too.

ALso win xp 64 will cost money, and after you buy a 64/mobo/registered ram you will not have that much left unless you have oodles of cash

[ZionsFire]

I wish I had oodles....

[Daleon]

AMD is cheaper than Intel, always. Yea look at price of the FX then look at the price of the EE. Doesn't matter what the Prescott's will be next summer, that is if they even get them out by then, the comparable AMD chips will be cheaper. Thats how AMD plays the market. Gotta love good old fashioned AMD vs Intel arguments heh.

Once the FX gets re-pinned around Feb also it won't need registered ram. AMD has a huge advantage over Intel atm and in the forseeable future. Their chip is out, its making progress, new versions will be out before Intel's even hits, plus AMD is having a cake walk going to 90nm something that is absolutely killing Intel currently. This is something that if you follow CPU manufacturing you would know is a very big deal, ask Nvidia. I would defintely suggest saving the Xmas money up for around March/April time when new FX's and MB's come out.

And rambus? I actually really like the 1066 stuff, it is fast. But the rambus boat has set sail once and took everyone down with it like the titanic. DDR has some very nice new versions coming also, DDR2 being one. And DDR Ram with freaking embedded DDR Cache in it making the stuff insanely faster.

[Xenar]

The Athlon 64's are a good deal more expensive than any of the P4's as of now.

I'm waiting to upgrade til next summer and I'll see what's out by then... we'll have DDR2, PCI Express, NV40/R420, BTX, Socket T - Prescott/Tejas (Tejas may be a little later though depending on if Intel delays it).

[WildHamster23]

Intel is cheaper... just got an dell 4600 p4 2.66 (533mhz bus) 512ram(2x256)
9800 non-pro (I heard it use the samsung memory and it is good for OC)
80gh, 48X CDRW, ethernet card(gig speed) mouse....etc = $750 - 200(rebate) = $550!!!
I sold my 8300 (on ebay) hehe...

$550
- 80 MOBO
- 40 RAm (512)
- 30 CDRW
- 40 hard drive
- 250 9800np
- 15 keyboard and optical mouse
- 10 gig ethernet card
- 40 case&cpu fan
= $45 for the p4 CPU
sweet deal.....

[WildHamster23]

AMD has to produce out standing 64bits cpu that would outperform the Intel's future 64 bits cpu... else AMD is not going to survive.
AMD spend lots money on the new chips and hoping to gains more market share for the next generation cpu. On the other hand, Intel did not make 64 bit (for regular consumers) is a smart move. Intel used AMD as a geni pig, for testing out the market. AMD is now force to push the manufactures and software companies to make 64 bits hardwares, which require AMD to spend lots money and other resources in marketing. On the other hand, Intel is saving lots money by not having to spend money on marketing the 64 bits cpus. THen, when software and hardware companies start to make 64 bits softwares and hardwares, Intel will starts to produce their 64bits cpu(1.5 years later). So if Intel 64 bits cpu perform btter than the AMD's cpu, AMD will not gain any market share and instead AMD help Intel setup a market for 64 bits cpu..... any comment?????

[ZionsFire]

AMD has to produce out standing 64bits cpu that would outperform the Intel's future 64 bits cpu... else AMD is not going to survive.
AMD spend lots money on the new chips and hoping to gains more market share for the next generation cpu. On the other hand, Intel did not make 64 bit (for regular consumers) is a smart move. Intel used AMD as a geni pig, for testing out the market. AMD is now force to push the manufactures and software companies to make 64 bits hardwares, which require AMD to spend lots money and other resources in marketing. On the other hand, Intel is saving lots money by not having to spend money on marketing the 64 bits cpus. THen, when software and hardware companies start to make 64 bits softwares and hardwares, Intel will starts to produce their 64bits cpu(1.5 years later). So if Intel 64 bits cpu perform btter than the AMD's cpu, AMD will not gain any market share and instead AMD help Intel setup a market for 64 bits cpu..... any comment?????

Plural......and singular. That is all.

[NoSurrender]

OMFG WILD :stoppost: im tired of you talking about dell. Anyways WERE ON THE FUTURE NOT YOUR CRAPPY DELL! :mad: anyways AMD always is cheaper. we are talking about top of the line , Xenar . See if you can find any of the extreme editions and look at the price then look at the price of the FX. Rbstr ENOUGH OF THE PRESCOTT! its gonna run at 120vw standard! thats isanely hot also ive heard u could run a Dual Xeon for less power. god rbstr.

[WildHamster23]

Plural......and singular. That is all.
my bad..

If you can afford a top of the line machine, then price is Irrelvent issue. People who cares about the price issue, are ppl (like me) who can only afford a low or mid-range comp. Dell has cheap mid-range comps, which is cheaper than ADM.

My Dell post is to help ppl who is looking for a good CHEAP mid-range system!!!

Plz point out my grammar mistakes... so I won't make the same mistake next time....

[Rbstr]

I realy thing its a matter of brand loyalty and Propaganda, Intel wins this AMD wins that, If amd made a chip of a 865pe mobo and it was better thant intels chip for it i would buy the AMD if the cost/preformance was the same or better

PS the reason i'm excited about the prescott is becasue i have a 865pe mobo an the prescott will be the best thing i can possibly get for it.

[ZionsFire]

Plural......and singular. That is all.
my bad..

If you can afford a top of the line machine, then price is Irrelvent issue. People who cares about the price issue, are ppl (like me) who can only afford a low or mid-range comp. Dell has cheap mid-range comps, which is cheaper than ADM.

My Dell post is to help ppl who is looking for a good CHEAP mid-range system!!!

Plz point out my grammar mistakes... so I won't make the same mistake next time....
:p

[Zatrais]

I go whit whatever performs the best in the pricebracket i'm looking at. Zealous following of a brand is just bad.

[Daleon]

High5 Pyro, thanks for laying the smack down for me! LoL

There should really be no such thing as brand loyalty. Intel and AMD are both billion dollar companies looking to suck as much cash out of you as they possibly can while holding back technology to a snails pace to save them as much money on manufacturing and R&D as possible.

Right now the AMD64 chips clearly are the performance leaders. We'll see what happens when the Prescott's come out. Personally I like to listen to the game developers more than the hardware makers about what they like and don't like and so far they love the AMD64.

[Ait'al]

Im going with Pentium till they make a good 64 them redoing my system. 8) If it sucks im starting a company and making my own. Ive always hated AMD. Intell atleast didnt try to make up excuses when people figured out they using advertiseing methods in there choice of product design. Have to admire honesty.:lol: And they know everyone knows it and dont try to change your mind. :p IMO

AMD with otehr companies boards are ok now but they dont have any direction. Intell will have a more definite and stable design to there future stuff and i think it will be more worth it when AMD cant hold tegether and have to remake everything from scratch like they do with every new major product.

Mostly since Intel makes there own boards. :D That and i still drool when i see a dual 386 system. ;)