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Scarecrowe
2003-11-15, 06:13 PM
If your a reaver pilot then you probably know what im talking about. Why is it that the Reaver is described as king of the sky's when almost every time there is a fight between a mosiquto and a reaver the Mossie comes out on top? Isn't the mossie supposed to be a scout craft? Also Im a infiltrator and alot of the time i get killed by mossies. This may sound bitchy and whiney but the mossies is way to good for just a scout craft and possible revisons should be considered such as giving its cannon a recoil (another point why to 12mm Chainhuns have less recoil the 20mm RECOILESS Cannons?)

Jagd
2003-11-15, 06:16 PM
The answer is......



Rockets.

Mr1337Duck
2003-11-15, 06:26 PM
Mosquitos are good for Airborne Anti-Air and scouting. When I was playing before, I used to grab a mosquito during the hack and go scout the outside of the base and send info to them.

Scarecrowe
2003-11-15, 06:33 PM
In Response to Jagd Have you any idea of how hard it is to hit a airborne moving target with rockets, especially when that airborne target can outrun those rockets? Really Really Hard

00AgentDuck
2003-11-15, 06:34 PM
Mossies have radar so that when your an infil, they can spot you better than a reaver can. Also reaver has more armor and the rockets can pack a good punch. When I verse a mosquito in the air I normally shot at him with my machine gun, but once he stays stationary or relativly stationary, that's when I unload my rockets onto him. Or I try and sneak up on them from behind so they don't see me and then blast them with rockets. Same goes for enemy reavers.

Edit: To Scarecrowe's recent post and he beat me to it: lol and especially when you can outrun your own rockets...

Scarecrowe
2003-11-15, 06:48 PM
Ok but what about the whole recoil issue. Whenever i get a mossie on my tail its usually over because it can just keep nailing me with shots even if i jink and fly erattically

Dharkbayne
2003-11-15, 07:26 PM
Reavers are like helicopters, useless against air, but deadly to ground, the missles are AIR TO GROUND, not AA,

Sentrosi
2003-11-15, 07:33 PM
Indeed

When I play my alt character and fly her Mosquito around, I can't tell you how many noobs are out there who will shoot missiles at you as you're flying toward them. All it takes is a change in altitude and you easily dodge the missiles, apply brakes, turn and you're on the Reavers 6. Stick on him like glue and it's an easy kill (unless he chickens out and ejects). The only time I've been beaten is when it's a 3 on 1 situation with one of the enemy being a Mosquito. Then it truly is whoever sees the other one first is the winner.

Nimbus
2003-11-15, 07:44 PM
Yeah, Reavers aren't the best for dogfighting. In my old squad we always had mosquitos guarding our reavers.

flypengy
2003-11-15, 07:49 PM
Reaver has 20mm which can chew through a mossie quite fast. It's just hard to get a mosq in front of you and not behind you.

Don't move when a mosq is around. It gives radar capability meaning everyone in the area can see all the little red dots on their radar (just like interlink), and if you're an infil it puts your name above you so that you become a lot more visible. It won't do this if you don't move though.

Jagd
2003-11-15, 09:09 PM
Well of course the rockets are for ground targets, but they are also the only way to take down a galaxy in under 5 minutes.

Maybe I should have said: More firepower, more armor. Reavers clearly dominate ground targets, and in my experience (I could be a crappy pilot though...) I win about half of the dogfights I get into. Because of this, I would hand the crown to the reaver for being more versatile. I'm not saying I like those odds in a dogfight, which is why I usually go after ground targets if I have a skeeter on my tail, cause I'm more likely to snag at least another kill or two by the time he wears down my armor.

In a perfect world, I'd be able to control my Reaver properly, look over my shoulder and perform evasive maneuvers. If I had anything close to realistic controls there would be a lot of dead mosquito pilots out there.

BDMJ
2003-11-15, 10:45 PM
Engaging in a dogfight with a mosquito is silly, as it simply outperforms the reaver with regards to maneuverability. To fight a mosquito, just come to a full stop and track him with your guns. You will win everytime. Don't try to run, or outfly him.

Kikinchikin
2003-11-15, 11:05 PM
I was a reaver pilot from release till about mid September. I honed my skills to the point where I could easily defeat any aircraft, reaver or mossie. Granted mossie was a tad harder, but we had a competition in 7th Legion. Everyone with air vehicles did 1 on 1 dogfights and we did a tournament. First match it was against another reaver. He did not even land a single shot on me. Second match was against a mosq. He got me down to like 1/4 or 1/3 but I was still able to beat him. 3rd match another reaver. Took me a while but i killed him. Finals was against a mosq. We hit each other quite a bit, but he got behind me, so I had to go evasive into a forest. He hit a tree, but didnt die and he got me to where i had to weave. In short i flew out and he shot me down. I bailed and hit him with a striker missile killing him.

Being good with a reaver in a dogfight is all about using strategy. Your handling is worse, as is your speed. However, your machine gun is better, so try to score initial hits and if he gets on your 6, hopefully if your good at maneuvering you can lead him thru a forest and either lose him, get behind him or make him crash.

BDMJ
2003-11-16, 12:18 AM
Lib >>>>>>>>>>> Reaver/Skeeter though ;)

If you don't believe me get a friend, get a lib, make a loadout with 500 35mm rounds and the rest 25mm, then proceed to own anything that moves. Bombers, who needs them?

ZionsFire
2003-11-16, 12:24 AM
Lib >>>>>>>>>>> Reaver/Skeeter though ;)

If you don't believe me get a friend, get a lib, make a loadout with 500 35mm rounds and the rest 25mm, then proceed to own anything that moves. Bombers, who needs them?

That 35mm chews through everything like no tomorrow.

Veteran
2003-11-16, 12:30 AM
Mosquito owns for so many reasons...

1: Overflight radar. Nuff said.
2: Sniper gun. Seriously, check the accuracy on that thing.
3: Maneuverability.
4: Only 3 certs. The extra credit is huge.
5: Interlink invisibility: Wow.
6: No tech required.

Very few better ways to spend three certs.

Acaila
2003-11-16, 09:20 AM
Reaver turreting > skeeter

skeeter value >>> Reaver.

If you think a skeeter will down a Reaver easily in a dog fight, go on markov, challenge Kenwayy of the VS. He will hand you your ass in a Reaver 10x out of 10. He is the best pilot in this game, just ask him. hehe :p

Sphynnx
2003-11-16, 02:44 PM
Reaver was designed for air-to-ground combat, and some air-to-air combat. Skeeter was primarily designed for recon and light attack, and mostly AA. The most deadly thing to a Reaver isn't a Starfire, isn't a Sparrow, but a Skeeter. A medium-talent skeeter pilot can own a Reaver, no question, because of the ROF of the 12mm and the speed of the Mossie.

Reaver usually tends to rack up more kills though, it's quite good on big, moving targets, like tanks, and...ooh....gals. It's great killing full gals with a big payload of rockets.

JuSTCHiLLiN
2003-11-16, 03:04 PM
Reavers just need to turn and face the skeeter and can usually lay the samck down. Libs, with their huge amount of armor can just stop and turn around slowly and own them 1 on 1 (even reavers for that matter).

Biohazzard56
2003-11-16, 07:33 PM
Reavers are easy to shoot down , Mosqs own them easy

HELLFISH_88
2003-11-16, 07:37 PM
the reavers good, its one of my certs, i think its better thaan the mosq anyways can a mosq kill a vanguard or a mag?

Biohazzard56
2003-11-16, 07:42 PM
if your lucky or kill steal with adv. targeting :) (sorry to those people who i stole their mag kills with a bolt driver and you guys had vanguards)

Queensidecastle
2003-11-17, 11:31 AM
I pilot a Liberator in Gunship mode (500 35mm rounds) quite a lot when I play my NC char. I can assure you that if a mossy gets on you and they dont suck, your screwed (no tailgunner). The turing speed on the Lib is so bad that it is impossible to counter a mossy that gets the jump on you. However, I have found a method that works quite well for liberator positioning in such an instance. You have to head towars some trees (base is best) and put the rear of the plane near the ground and have the rear and most of the top blocked from fire. Then you can rip them up if they are stupid enough to standoff with you. Most of the time you wont make it to any defensible position. Gunship mode works best on a cont with a dropship link for quick reloads and repairs. Fly low to the ground and snipe from as far as you can

Skipping the bombs entirely and going pure gunship with a tailgunner is by far the most fun way to play a liberator and extremely effective. The problem here is that hell will freeze over before you get a pickup tailgunner that wont bail on you if you go more than 30 seconds w/out him being able to fire on anyone so this is purely an outfit mate thing.