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Pilgrim
2003-11-26, 12:21 AM
Just got back from a press screening of the first 2 hours of the new mini series.

Gotta say it's not that bad. Here's a bit about the Characters.

The chick Cylon is HOT and very good at being bad
The robo cylons that you see are bad ass (but you don't get to see enough of them!)
Starbuck is dead on... seriously Dirk Benedict with tits.
Apolo is a whiney bitch and I wish he'd die... but you really see him nut up as his balls drop in the middle of the eppisode.
Boomer is ok... not great, but haven't seen enough of her to really call it
Adoma (edward James Olmos) is pretty good. He plays pissed or emotionaly distant most of the time and it works pretty well.
Tak (the XO) is really good. Probably the best Character so far.
Baltar is wonderfully self centered and evil... gotta love him!


As to the story... well... they make a few of the basic mistakes that you see on tv movies... primarily they are trying to give the characters too much angst up front. Isn't the fact that their homes are getting wipped out enough? But all in all this will potentialy work out if they make it a weekly show. The shop design is awesome. Still paying hommage to the old show while taking it to a logical next step. The cylons finally have figured out that they're robots, they don't have to pilot the ships, they can build the ships to pilot themselves.

There are some really interesting technology things going on that I won't go into detail here about.

But in a theatre with about 100 people I heard no loud vocal complaints (other then until things start dieing it's kinda borring) and the 5 people I was with all enjoyed it.

So as a recomendation I say watch it when it's on in a week (a week from monday to be exact) You may be surprised. They pay hommage, and don't soil the orriginal show, while telling a new and unique story.

PAX

Pilgrim

Squeeky
2003-11-26, 12:22 AM
Sci-Fi++ :)

I've never heard of this though. What is BG?

AztecWarrior
2003-11-26, 12:22 AM
I hear Vic a-comin' with a shotgun.

Squeeky
2003-11-26, 12:23 AM
:lol:

Pilgrim
2003-11-26, 12:25 AM
Damn kids not knowing what Battlestar Galactica is! :rolleyes:

BSG was a show that was on for 2 years WAY back in what... 78 something like that. IT was trying to capitalize on the Star Wars craze. CBS canceled it after 2 seasons at 24 episodes (available now in a boxset)

In base it's about a space farring air craft carrier/battle ship and the adventures the pilots and crew get into while trying to run away from the Cylons... a race that is trying (and doing a pretty good job of) destroying all humanity.

That's it is a nutshell

And never EVER watch Galactica 84 I could have shit a better tv series.

Squeeky
2003-11-26, 12:27 AM
I wasn't alive in 78. :lol: Shit, my parent's we're still in college at that age i think.

ZeusCali
2003-11-26, 12:37 AM
battlestar galactica kicks ass ... i'm 17 it's Your fault dave for not wanting the look at the classics it's there

Peacemaker
2003-11-26, 09:37 AM
Yes BG was the best. Never got tired of the endless Rerun images of the Vipers taking off. OVer and over and over and over and over and over......

SDM
2003-11-26, 09:48 AM
Starbuck is dead on... seriously Dirk Benedict with tits.


Umm, if Starbuck has tits, how 'dead on' can it be? Not that I'm complaining mind you.

Can someone clear this one up for me?

Glaynor
2003-11-26, 10:04 AM
BG was a phenomenal show. I loved watching it when I was a kid. If memory serves me correct it was on Sunday nights.

Essentially humans from another galaxy created the Cylons. The Cylons became more powerful and destroyed the human civilization. All that was left was one fleet of various ships and the Battlestar Galatica. The BG is the only military ship in the fleet and all of the ships had fled their planet. They are now searching for a planet that is supposed to have humans on it. It is apparent that they are looking for earth.

The series is about the Cylons chasing them and trying to destroy the fleet. The Cylons also have bases spread out throughout the galaxy. Settlements are found of humans throughout the galaxy, but none of them are the planet they are looking for. Eventually they get to earth, and low and behold it earth of the late 70s.

Phenomenal show, sorta campy but for those days - great. Right around the time of Dukes of Hazard.

Pilgrim
2003-11-26, 10:19 AM
Umm, if Starbuck has tits, how 'dead on' can it be? Not that I'm complaining mind you.

Can someone clear this one up for me?


Sure

It's that the woman they have playing Starbuck captures the Attitude and manerisms. From the occasional Frack to playing Pyramids with the other pilots while smoking a cigar. It's the starbuck character with a little bit more vulnerability because instead of being a womanizing jag-off... it's a woman. She comes off tough and bitchy while still sympathetic. Where everyone else is the heart of BSG Starbuck was always the boot that got broken off in Cylon ass. The woman version makes it work!

PAX

EarlyDawn
2003-11-26, 01:49 PM
Couldn't stand the old BG. New one looks ok, I'll reserve judgement until I see it.

MrVicchio
2003-11-26, 02:13 PM
OMG, you should be shot for the comment about the new "stardoe" she can die. Seriously.

This is not BSG, this is Sex and the City meets BH90210 in space.

The cylons, human looking/made and require sex... oh yeah, that sure feels like BSG to me... I would do a rolling eyes smilie but it doesn't even warrent that.

Ronald D. Moore, writter of this abominiation is a former Star Trek Writter, as you can see from the Six of Twelve Character, he is an unoriginal repeating stemaing splotch of donkey cum sitting on a pile of dried up elephant shit.

Love the new Boomer, yeah, asian female cylon spy that can't fly worth a shit.

How about the upcomming Stardoe and Apollo wedding, thats being saved for a ratings go getter....

If they removed EACH and EVERY refference to BSG, altered the story line some, and re-did it as anoriginal show, maybe I would watch. Until then, they can just all die.

I support the Glen Larson/DeSanto continuation Big SCreen/series.

Anyone that would watch the Sci-Fi Channel needs only know one thing, the CEO of programming, one each Bonnie Hammer, is formerly of the lifetime network, and has been quoted as saying she is trying to take the Sci-Fi channel away from Science Fiction... Go figure.

Winged_Nazgul
2003-11-26, 02:30 PM
I was wondering how long it would take Mr.V to see this thread. :lol:

Pilgrim
2003-11-26, 03:03 PM
Looks like Vic is abit bitter :)

Have you seen it yet? Just wondering, you make some pretty big assumptions. I can't counter any of them but I can say that Cylons don't need sex, they just seem to dig it!

And while I had problems with it as well as the next fan boi of the old series... it really is a redemption from what I expected. I expected to leave pissed... instead I left wanting to see the second half. That's a big leap for me.

Of course I would totaly agree with the statement that if they shed all the other names and made it an original sci-fi series it would have been better... but that being said this is not a bad effort.

And who the hell would want to see Colonials on western world again (although Apolo outdrawing old one eye is pretty damn kewl)

This is an updated and interesting look at an old story. I liked it to enough of a point that it wasn't a waste of my time to watch it. SO I still advise everyone to at least watch it. Judge for yourself, but with the complete shlep that is on TV now for Sci-fi (don't even get me started on Enterprise... or Star Daweson as I like to call it) something like this show would be welcome.

PAX

Pilgrim

Sentrosi
2003-11-26, 03:57 PM
OMG, you should be shot for the comment about the new "stardoe" she can die. Seriously.

This is not BSG, this is Sex and the City meets BH90210 in space.

The cylons, human looking/made and require sex... oh yeah, that sure feels like BSG to me... I would do a rolling eyes smilie but it doesn't even warrent that.

Ronald D. Moore, writter of this abominiation is a former Star Trek Writter, as you can see from the Six of Twelve Character, he is an unoriginal repeating stemaing splotch of donkey cum sitting on a pile of dried up elephant shit.

Love the new Boomer, yeah, asian female cylon spy that can't fly worth a shit.

How about the upcomming Stardoe and Apollo wedding, thats being saved for a ratings go getter....

If they removed EACH and EVERY refference to BSG, altered the story line some, and re-did it as anoriginal show, maybe I would watch. Until then, they can just all die.

I support the Glen Larson/DeSanto continuation Big SCreen/series.

Anyone that would watch the Sci-Fi Channel needs only know one thing, the CEO of programming, one each Bonnie Hammer, is formerly of the lifetime network, and has been quoted as saying she is trying to take the Sci-Fi channel away from Science Fiction... Go figure.

And once again, we see Mr V. as "stiff as a board" man, and not talking about his Johnson either.

Glad to see someone who has actually seen the thing give comments about it. I for one am looking forward to this retelling of a childhood favorite. I will be looking forward to this with reckless abandon.

To all the naysayers of this, do me one favor. After the mini-series is over, post what you thought about it. I'm sick and tired of seeing "OMFG teh made Starbuck a chick! WTF?!!!!???!!!!!oneoneone." They will never bring back the old storyline. I would like to see what happened to the other Battlestar though, and I thought Richard Hatch had a nice thing going with what he put out there. I guess there's not enough interest in that. Perhaps if this is a success for Sci-Fi, they may consider bringing in Richard's version and make it a series. Cause, right now, there are no good Sci-Fi shows on there, except for Stargate SG-1.

Sputty
2003-11-26, 04:00 PM
there are no good Sci-Fi shows on there, except for Stargate SG-1.
And that one sucks too!Alot...

Pilgrim
2003-11-26, 04:09 PM
Oh

BTW

She never refers to herself as 6 of 12 not as a name... just that there are 12 of her out there and she is the sixth one. The Six name is what they tag her with in the credits but that's it. I think Baltar calls here something else but I'm not sure.

And the only review I've seen by some one who's seen it is HArry at Ain't it cool... and he's a fat fuck eletist who gets pissed when he has to leave his mommies basement for a minute.

So watch it for fucks sake and stop being such a fan boy.

On December 9th, you want to bitch... be my guest.

MrVicchio
2003-11-26, 04:12 PM
I have read the script. I have seen all the trailers. I have yet to find one thing about this I like. The new Galactica looks like two electric razors mating with a dust vac and sent through the Acme "Make a Ship" program. Don't EVEN get me started on the new Base Stars or the Raiders... BLEAH!

Oh I will watch it, then I will break it down. Trust me. I can't wait to see the lameness of when we discover that Boomer is a Cylon Sleepr agent. The Stardoe/Apollo sex/love scenes should be tittilating if this goes to series.

I DO NOT WANT BSG RETOLD THE WAY IT WAS DONE IN 1978! I know all the flaws and the holes in it. I wanted a contuinuation or a remake. A remake that held all the good of TOS and updated the rest.

Things missing:

1. The Egyptian Mythos.
2. The Helmuts.
3. The buddy Comraderie
4. Starbucks Dick.
5. Boomers Dick.
6. African American Heroes. (Colonel Tigh, Boomer)
7. Cylons.
8. The Galactica.


Instead we get a shit load of things the Fans never wanted, and the sad part is, there are lamers out there who jsut want sex appeal and eye candy, and well you guys win and the fans lose. Thanks.

MrVicchio
2003-11-26, 04:20 PM
http://scifi.about.com/library/weekly/aa112603.htm

Great bit of letter writting showing the lack of love.

firecrackerNC
2003-11-26, 10:58 PM
so wait....theres sex scenes?......sweet! im gonna watch it now

Everay
2003-11-27, 12:38 AM
shes called 6 of 12, just like 7 of 9 huh? well, i didnt like what he did with the other series, infact the only other Star trek i like besides TNG and the original is that one with the guy from Quantom leap.

anyways, im gonna watch it before i bitch, but i think they fucked it over. all he did was take the name, and a few titles of things in the series, and fucked the rest over

MrVicchio
2003-11-27, 01:24 AM
http://www.cylon.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2002

GREAT thread on the "BSG Mini Lowdown aired on the Sci Fi channel tonight. It was a complete waste of space.

Sentrosi
2003-11-27, 04:23 PM
I have read the script.

Link or it never happened.

Winged_Nazgul
2003-11-27, 04:40 PM
Well, we didn't read the script and don't really appreciate the spoilers without the proper warnings no matter how you feel about the new series.

Navaron
2003-11-27, 05:00 PM
Link or it never happened.


I'll take the scripts to this season of sopranos and alias, thanks.

Sentrosi
2003-11-27, 05:35 PM
Link or it never happened.

Just trying to put Mr. V in his place. If he's seen the scripts, he can link them here. If he hasn't seen the scripts and it just saying that to look good, then I've exposed him.

Winged_Nazgul
2003-11-27, 05:44 PM
I was directing that post to Mr.V as well. If he did read the scripts, he could've posted some spoiler warnings before revealing too much about the show. I'm sure he could've still been just as critical about it without revealing the major plot twist to unsuspecting prospective viewers.

MrVicchio
2003-11-27, 10:54 PM
Nazgul, take a leap off a bridge, the script was floating, is floating, and you can kiss off if you think I feel any need to justify myself to you.

ZeusCali
2003-11-28, 12:01 AM
dam just like the real bush ur avatar serves you well mr.v
especially with the "i don't need to justify myself to you"

MrVicchio
2003-11-28, 12:16 AM
The fucking script isn't hard to find, what next, a link to anything and everything I say??? Footnotes?

MrVicchio
2003-11-28, 02:08 AM
http://www.cylon.org/bsg/bsg-hatch-01.html

Interview with Richard Hatch, AkA the REAL Apollo of BSG Fame.

Winged_Nazgul
2003-11-28, 07:09 AM
Look, we all know how you feel about the show. But that's no excuse to post spoilers for people who might not want to know about the spoiler.


Personally, I thought Matrix: Revolutions was a waste of time and money but I'd still post a warning if I was going to talk about anything in the movie that might be a surprise to people who hadn't seen it yet. Common courtesy, is all.

MrVicchio
2003-11-28, 11:50 AM
I have sadi NOTHING that you can't garner from the trailers. Okay, the boomer is a cylons spy is supposed to be the big end to "shock" you all. Oh well.

Sentrosi
2003-11-28, 11:56 AM
The fucking script isn't hard to find, what next, a link to anything and everything I say??? Footnotes?
Would be helpful to see where this madness started....I mean, where your knowledge is coming from. But hey, thanks for letting us know about Boomer. I'm sure you'll get a lot of fan mail from that post. :thumbsup: asshat

MrVicchio
2003-11-28, 12:09 PM
You must realize, I despise this production with the very essence of my soul, I would put out a copy of the rough cut on to the web if I had one with side notes interjected pointing out how freaking sorry this thing is.

This, BTW is comming from someone who watches almost NO entertainment TV.