Liberator cert opinions?

[kerosene31]

I have been away from Planeside for awhile. Recently I have come back and really started playing more the last few weeks. I was thinking of using my next points for the Liberator. I don't see very many of them around, nor do I hear people talking about them very often. How is the liberator? Is it worthwhile? My other option is to choose the Magmower.

It will be nice once they change the certs that I will be able to get the gal, lib and lodestar with 3 points. I'm also thinking after the server merger (I play on Emerald) there should be a lot more targets for the bomber once the big zerg gets going.

So what do people think of the liberator? Waste of time? Fun vehicle?

[dscytherulez]

Yeah, i played with the lib, its pretty fun...but i always got shot down by the damn VS starfires because they can lock on when im at max ceiling height. If your VS then you wont have a problem...Sparrow lock sux at distances and it takes 2 long for a bursters flak to hit a fast moving lib. Its also a good solo aircraft because its got that huge cannon on the front.

[Queensidecastle]

The liberator is the best kept secret in the game.

People just dont understand how to use it just like you would a lightning. Take a Liberator with no gunners and fill it up with 35mm ammo. Then proceed to use it just like you would a lightning.. Hit and run tactics, looking for AMSs, and repair vehicles away from battle. No, you cant make passes on heavily defended bases and towers, but you can pwn any vehicle in planetside 1 on 1 except the Magrider.

Despite what you may think, you can pwn Skyguards. In fact, If you see one, your best bet is to just charge it and try to gun it down because evasive maneuvers are often not good enough to escape. Skyguards seem to blow up easier than a lightning and you wouldnt believe the hate tells you get when you Gunship down a Skyguard (Honestly, that is perhaps out of balance).

As previously pointed out, the VS AA MAX is the only real threat. You will be quite satisfied at the ammount of reavers and Mosquitos that dont realize that attacking you is pure folly. Get lots of hate tells for that too. Quite simply reavers and mosquitos are no match for a prepaired Liberator Gunship pilot. In fact you can take out 2 at once sometimes and even gun down other Lib pilots even with tailgunners easily.

It all really boils down to 2 factors:

1)Armor. The liberator hs so much armor that you can withstand quite a substantial attack
2)35mm. In my experience the vast majority of PS players have no idea how devastating this gun really is. I am not totally sure but I think it has about the same short term TTK as the lightning 75MM and sustained fire (because of no recoil) seems to far exceed any other weapon except tank cannons.

The combination of these 2 things means when you go head to head with anything except for a Mag or Skyguard, you win. The direct fire of the Mag is far to powerfull to contend with but everything else is fair game. The trick is to fly low to the ground like a land vehicle, going in and out of treetops and sniping vehicles and targets from afar. You really do use it just like you would a lightning except you are in the air. I suppose you need some skill as a pilot so that you can weave in and out of trees but when you get this down, your just unstoppable ESPECIALLY if you have a Dropship center and an AMP station

[Queensidecastle]

Oh yes, I forgot to mention another ausome thing about the Lib.

One really fun thing to do with the Liberator is find a good buddy that has the cert too (if not have them drop a cert for a day) Then you go out to a cont with a Dropship and an AMP station somewhere. Matrix in and grab a Lib. Fill it evenly with 35mm and 25mm ammo and dump all the bombs. Save config as a vehicle favorite and proceed to the nearest skirmish area. Have your friend be the tailgunner and he can just sit back pwning targets as you fly around pwning targets with your front cannon. When you blow up, respawn back at the base and switch roles and let him fly and do the main cannon for a while. Fly low to the ground always using trees for cover

[martyr]

i highly approve of the liberator. i kill a lot of armor with mine.

[Jagd]

If you are pilotting on a bombing run, the main thing I have learned is go to max flight ceiling, and fly by the radar. Learn to turn the Lib very slowly so as not to disable the bombardier, and criss-cross over enemy bases as often as you can. Vehicle pads and bridges are two of the juiciest targets, practice approaching a bridge from an off angle, and correcting at the last minute to fly straight down the length of it, once you master the light touch needed to do that you'll be laughing. You are basically watching the mini-radar and the bomb/no-bomb indicator at all times, and your main view is more or less useless for target acquisition when you are at a safe bombing height.

Oh yeah, and don't forget to hit spacebar to change to the belly-cam view. Very helpful when you want to watch the devastation, or are lining up shots with lots of time to spare. (ie: there is no enemy AA in the area)

[kerosene31]

Cool! Thanks everyone, I think I'll give it a try tonight (still waiting for my 24 hour recert timer to expire).

I am thinking the lib is going to be lots fun over the new zergs after the server merge :blowup:

[BlackHawk]

I despise the fact that the Lib can be used as a one man gunship :mad:

[Jagd]

Uhh, it's kind of fodder if it does though. Taking off without a bomber is pure laziness and/or stupidity.

[Queensidecastle]

Uhh, it's kind of fodder if it does though. Taking off without a bomber is pure laziness and/or stupidity

This is why the Liberator is the best kept secrect. People just dont have a clue. Try actually certing the Liberator and use it as a Gunship sometime. Dont try to fly it around like a reaver or you will get owned, operate it like you would a Lightning. As a matter of fact you get lots of lightning kills this way because your working the edges of battle just like they do. Why do you think it is stupidity to take off w/out a bomber? Piloting on bombing run after bombing run gets boring. It is nice that the Lib has some versatility. Do you know what to do when a reaver attacks you? do you know what to do it a mossy attacks you? In every case, you force a face-off and blow them up or send them running because your hover turning speed is faster than they can aerial strafe. This means they cannot get behind you and stay there and that means they get some 35mm to the forehead.

[Jagd]

I suppose you can choose to look at it that way if you like, but it's just like idiots taking a Magrider out without a gunnner. Why waste all that firepower so you can solo with a teamplay vehicle? I have had the liberator cert for a while, and from what I've seen it's all about the massive area-effect damage.

You can cruise over a base and rack up 10+ kills per pass and even with a moderate amount of enemy AA in the area, you can usually pull off 3 or 4 passes before you have to pull out and repair. It just makes no sense to me to just use the 35mm. I mean, wow it's more powerful than the Reaver cannon. Woop-dee-doo. With a bombardier you can flatten Vanguards as easily as a Vanguard flattens Basiliks. Why not take the time to get a gunner, and use the vehicle to its full potential?

[Vis Armata]

Liberators, in whatever form, are great. Our air wing regularly has gunships in squad, and they are definitely armor killers. Does anyone know just how effective the Liberator bombs are against armored targets?

As as aside, I ran a platoon of Liberators (fully crewed) one night for the outfit (I had two at one point, but for the most part, it was one full platoon), and it was the coolest thing I ever did in PS. We got target information from the NC CR5s and went to town. We ended a TR offensive on Leza in a matter of seconds, destroying their armor and AMSes in the courtyard so that the NC could retake control of the facility. We also bombed the !@#$ out of the bridge and tower leading from Acan to Voltan, among other things. Good times.

[Queensidecastle]

Why not take the time to get a gunner, and use the vehicle to its full potential?
Actually, I did talk about that.

[Vick]

I pilot it as a gunship alot, nice cert. Better then a reaver but for less points.

[Jagd]

Well keep your flying coffin then. We'll just be racking up the XP as we demolish every vehicle and soldier who is dumb enough to stick his head out the door of your base. :D

[Vick]

I only bomb when I know an AMS loc and have no OS or if I can get my bomber some juicy zerg kill-spams. Otherwise it is a waste, I could be taking out enemy tanks in gunship mode, by myself.

[DDSHADE]

lol hey vick, u sent me a /t on konried yesterday saying i "ghosted" through a wall during lag, lol i wish i could see it!

[Flammey]

I'm a way way better gunner than I am a pilot. I'm making a name for myself as a mag gunner.

[Jagd]

But I thought you were Flammey....?

[Nekota]

The best recommendation for a Liberator pilot. Don't travel alone. 1 Liberator is nice but 2+ is pure destruction. Double the targets also insures one+ more of you are going to be around to drop more bombs or get away.

[Scarecrowe]

Anyone ever tried using it as a mobile battering ram?? it is suprising good at knocking maxes of hills if your aims good and its high armour means you can do it once or twice without dying. Very good at knocking out AA maxes

[WolfA4]

i've taken lib gunships down if you keep your lib still and close enough for a good vanguard gunner you will die way before that vnaguard does trust me :)

[Hamma]

Lib is fun :thumbsup: