View Full Version : What to play with 56k?
Blacktea
2003-12-09, 03:28 PM
Well guys here is the question... with 56k connection these are my pings:
around 250 in empty land, 500 in small firefight, 1000 in big firefight, 2000 up to 16000!! in zergs... and i think i am not the only one, so guys with 56k, what do you play?
I figured out that if you are not total looser, you can still own with such slow connection...
as a SNIPER, stationary targets are stationary with ping 40 as well as with 500, easy kills with 56k. Moving targets... just get into practice counting with your high ping (up to 500) in advance and target more in front of your target, again with practice easy kills
as SUPPORT well this is kind of thing i find myself in now, adv ingeneering does not rely on ping, nor does adv medic very much, flying or driving transports can be done as well, just stay out of zergs...
yeah zergs suck with 56k...:(
i would appreciate any suggestions what to play with slow connection, honestly i rely on YOU gouy to widen my perception of possibilities in this game... thanks
ViperGTS
2003-12-09, 04:21 PM
I alos have a vert serios desise(wow so many spelling errors...)....its called 56K-itetes
Its very very evil.........
Madcow
2003-12-09, 04:36 PM
What I learned when I was playing on a 56k (thank goodness that's over):
Sniper is actually easier than it is on a broadband connection. Often times the system is 'guessing' which was an individual is running as your computer isn't taking in enough information to be up to date with movements. Because of this, people run in a lot of straight lines on your screen. It makes it far easier to snipe when you don't have to concern yourself with zig zagging targets.
Driving vehicles is also in your favor for the same reason. It ticks me off something fierce to be run over by something nowhere near me, and it's because the driver of the vehicle has a bad connection. On their screen I've run right in front of their vehicle, on my screen I'm safely somewhere else. Client side hit detection means they win. Unfortunately, as soon as you get into anything resembling a medium battle you'll be in a slide show and blown apart. You have to make a big effort to stay away from the masses, and don't even consider aircraft.
Infiltrator is still fun, but like vehicles you have to stay away from anything beyond a small-medium battle. I spent most of my 56k time cloaking, and trying to take out Snipers/Phoenix users who were well behind battle lines. Your best bet connection wise is to pick off the loners or strays. Ninja combat engineer is fun as well, dropping boomers/mines/spitfires behind enemy lines and annoying them.
Oh yeah, never take the bomber seat in a Liberator. I tried a few times and as soon as you get over a semi-busy base your connection won't even allow you to drop bombs. Your pilot will not be real pleased with you.
TeraHertz
2003-12-09, 05:46 PM
i would appreciate any suggestions what to play with slow connection, honestly i rely on YOU gouy to widen my perception of possibilities in this game... thanks
Battlefield1942. Forget PSide till you get adsl. Seriously, do you really want to pay this ammount for only a fraction of a game?
Stick to BF1942 32 player games on offical EA servers and you'll have a better time than you'll ever experiance in this game with the same connection.
Zompton
2003-12-09, 09:18 PM
OMG you couldnt be more right, stay out of other peoples gunner seats if our on 56k.
When i was on 56k i found sniper, cloacker, combat engineer, any support, or transporter are the best positions.
Biohazzard56
2003-12-09, 10:06 PM
I just tried it out its kinda cheap *plugs DSL back in*
Im curious what exactly the symptoms of a bad connection are. I have cable. However I find in the really big battles I get major delays. Things not delayed are my ability to move around and shoot, Things delayed are doors opening, station access, reloading, and the movements of other players to a lesser degree. Reloading can take literally one whole minute before it happens and doors take forever to open. A nice benefit to this huge annoyance is that shots fired at me don't register till long after the fact and that enemies usually don't seem to see me for a long time. I can walk through huge crowds of enemies and not get hurt and none of them even look at me. However any shots I fire on them do count. This results in me being able to take out an enemy like 5 minutes after someone already killed me but it dosn't register on my computer that I got killed till long after the fact. Meanwhile I've killed others and ran through many crowds of enemies long after I already died to everyone else. This would likly appear on other peoples screens as if they just died for no reason since they saw no enemy shooting them but yet I was there shooting them. However I simelarly take damage with out seeing anyone shooting at me because of the huge delay.
FraudulentBob
2003-12-10, 06:46 AM
Get.. a... better... connection...
Madcow
2003-12-10, 10:43 AM
@Vimp
I had that happen way too often on 56k, can't imagine why you'd have it happening with cable. I have a bunch of screenshots of me behind enemy lines during a base siege. I could empty my weapons into somebody and they wouldn't even die, then I'd hit reload and 3-4 minutes later my weapon actually would reload. I ran around the first time it happened shooting people and kind of laughing about it figuring the system had dropped me completely somehow. Once I did die all of the people I had shot died at the same time, as if all of the information made it to the server at once. That's only a fraction of the annoyance of standing for 5 minutes at a busy AMS trying to get your gear though.
Well as much as my symtoms point to a bad connection my ping never goes over 200ms. And its ONLY in big battles that I get these problems. And how could my Cable not be good enough? I went to Bandwidthplace.com and my connection rates around 30% better then a T1 connection.
mayesey
2003-12-10, 01:38 PM
how long does it take to download the patches with 56k then? surely it takes hours?
Hamma
2003-12-10, 01:47 PM
Yes, i suspect many hours.
mayesey
2003-12-10, 01:49 PM
maybe ill wait until i get broadband before getting this game then. do you need the patches to play the training missions offline?
Hamma
2003-12-10, 02:11 PM
There is an offline training - not much in there to do however heh - and I dont know if you need the patches to run it.
Blacktea
2003-12-10, 02:21 PM
i downloaded ps a month ago, first patch was round 3 hours, every new realeased patch ranges from 10 minutes to one hour. nothing bad if u are not some wanking computer-addicted freak, just turn the patch on and read something while it goes on. no problem.
btw: that "cought in lag" thing with killing people while ur long dead (happened to me many times) is insane, somethinng should be done against it
Sputty
2003-12-10, 02:33 PM
A good game to paly with 56K is Diablo 2. :p
Ed the MAD
2003-12-10, 03:05 PM
you wanna know what you can play?
minesweeper.
get DSL.
who uses 56k nowadays?!
scanda
2003-12-10, 03:14 PM
2 years ago I played WW2 online ok with a 56k connecion, try that.
www.wwiionline.com
Red October
2003-12-10, 03:48 PM
who uses 56k nowadays?!
Anyone who lives in a rural area and the !@#$'n Phone Company has not installed it yet! :flamemad:
Anyone who lives in a rural area and the !@#$'n Cable company does not have Broadband installed to that area (and probally won't...Chapter 11). :rant:
And of course the !@#$'n Sattlite companies think you are willing to pay $100 bucks a month for the service :bang:
Blacktea
2003-12-10, 04:58 PM
reminds me of my situation:)
Ed the MAD
2003-12-11, 02:14 AM
i repeat. get DSL. it runs through your phone line, and uses slitters. you can still recive phone calls. i called bell south, they hooked be up.
Madcow
2003-12-11, 10:26 AM
Ed, DSL isn't available everywhere. As a matter of fact, where I live I was able to get cable but DSL wasn't an option. Believe it or not, there are plenty of places where neither is an option and satellite isn't an option for gaming because there is a delay. Works great for calling up web pages, it's suicide trying to play a game that way.
I thought DSL only works if you are withing 2 miles of a central switching station, ergo city folk can get it, country folk cannot.
Madcow
2003-12-11, 10:53 AM
I thought DSL only works if you are withing 2 miles of a central switching station, ergo city folk can get it, country folk cannot.
Yep, and I'm even in a suburb of a large city and don't have the option. High speed is less available than a lot of people think.
Blacktea
2003-12-11, 01:39 PM
hey madcow, if you play madcowsniper, ur actually awersome sniper and have slow connection:) i have seen u a few times with my ladymercedes
with connection, i live 500 metres outside adsl reach:D
Madcow
2003-12-11, 01:45 PM
Madcowsniper is not me, sorry. Haven't even seem them, actually. My Madcow character would be Madcow-J now although I haven't logged him on since the patch.
Arthell
2003-12-11, 07:32 PM
I had the same problems Vimp described, and im also on cable. One of the reasons i cancelled, couldnt stand it turning into a slideshow whenever i got near a large battle.
And i was a Gal pilot, so that didnt work out too well. :rolleyes:
BUGGER
2003-12-12, 12:07 AM
As I been playin since the beginning with 56k and still am, heres what I got to say.
Snipe.
Stay far away on any hill with a vehicle near by-better if its a lightning, mosquito, or reaver. I sugjest to use agile armor instead of reinforced and just keep spare ammo in the trunk of your vehicle. If they see you and engage you, just get into your vehicle and run. If you got what i listed above, fight back.
Cloaker
Go before the action, have combat engineering and adv hacking. Sabotage anything and everything. If they have modules in their base, leave them untill you have backup. Keep them buisy untill lag starts to grow. If you have spare ACEs, mine the outside. If lag hits your hard, walk it off.
Scout.
Simple, walk the outside shoot at anything, go on a deathmatch. Kill people with modules, annoy convoys. Do what a mosquito would do (I dont nessesarly mean shoot them).
Grunt
AV or AA MAX outside, all the time-if you can stand some lag.
If your in a small squad away from zergs and just going to places where the battles are small. You could/should just get MAXs. Anti Infantry and hog the CC. If your TR, then this will be hella fun.
If your squad wants bep pranto, stay within the SOI and do nothing, or say fuck you and leave them.
Sadly, this game sux on 56k. And i cant get anything but satilite which cost too much on this mountain.
And it takes from 20 minutes, to an hour, to a nite for a patch to load. Really sux. And it'll take too long for the test server to d/l.
But I got aol and 56k....so dont start crying that your net is slow.
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