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Fenrys
2003-12-13, 04:44 PM
Reload time is by far the BEST time to start jumping around (thus messing up your aim). This is the only FPS I've ever played to have such a backassward limitation - if PS is suposed to be skill based . . . LET US USE OUR SKILL.

Madcow
2003-12-13, 05:10 PM
The problem is the surge monkeys who jump and therefore warp. If they're able to reload for free, it's even uglier than it is currently.

Fragmatic
2003-12-13, 06:03 PM
Yeah, but is jumping around "skill?"

PsychoXR-20
2003-12-13, 06:08 PM
I'd like to see you reload a gun while jumping up and down.

VashTheStamped
2003-12-13, 06:14 PM
I'd like to see you reload a gun while jumping up and down.
:lol: true

Fenrys
2003-12-13, 06:44 PM
Dodging bullets is as much as skill as shooting them.

The "realisim" argument doesn't stand up against flying tanks and immortality.

PsychoXR-20
2003-12-13, 07:18 PM
The "realisim" argument doesn't stand up against flying tanks and immortality.


This game is in the future, and the technology is based off of future tech, that is why Tanks can hover, and we can respawn. There is no technology that is going to make you reload a gun any better in the future. If you can't do it now, it aint gonna happen.

Fenrys
2003-12-13, 07:30 PM
After centuries of non-stop combat, I think a person could learn to reload a weapon under just about any condition. Hopping on 1 foot, in handcuffs, and blindfolded for example.

Dharkbayne
2003-12-13, 08:18 PM
After centuries of non-stop combat, don't you think you'd just give up after a while?

Flammey
2003-12-13, 10:23 PM
Yeah, and in the future, all ammo comes in a box that is 3 inches, by 3 inches, by 3 inches. Unless it's AV ammo. WTF? Are these boxes of bullets, clips, or are the boxes the clips? Come on. Besides, I don't jump around much while reloading. But I suppose jumping and reloading is like taking a piss while running around. Not easy to do.

WritheNC
2003-12-13, 10:37 PM
There is no technology that is going to make you reload a gun any better in the future. If you can't do it now, it aint gonna happen.

Nobody thought something like TV would have existed 100 years ago.

An even better example: Years ago, when you had a computer with a 2mb hard drive, 23mhz processor, and a 3.5 floppy? They thought that was the peak of technology...

But on topic, I think reloading while jumping is fine, even though I don't really do it(consciously). It costs you 10 stamina, so if you jump 3 times, that's 30 stamina...

And boys and girls, if you wanna jump around and then you're out of stamina...you're a sitting duck.

I think jumping as a dodge tactic is not a very good idea, and therefore I don't mind if other people do it.

Vick
2003-12-13, 11:01 PM
I just want to be able to jump off the walls as I reload and shit.

The stamina penalty is still there...

Flammey
2003-12-13, 11:05 PM
This isn't a big issue for me. After all, there is no "fall down" either. Most people who are in the general are of a 75 mm and up cannon shell explosion would probably be blown backwards, if not at least knocked down. So I'm not too worrried that people can reload while jumping around.

PsychoXR-20
2003-12-14, 12:34 AM
An even better example: Years ago, when you had a computer with a 2mb hard drive, 23mhz processor, and a 3.5 floppy? They thought that was the peak of technology...


But again, that is a piece of technology, technology evolves very fast, humans don't.

Human beigns have never been able to fly with out technology, cant live underwater without technology etc.

Kikinchikin
2003-12-14, 12:35 AM
I don't jump for dodging purposes ever. The stamina penalty is too much, especially if I'm using surge.

The only things I use jump for:
Getting over cliffs/ledges, trying in vain to jump over mines when my EMP blast is not up, and most importantly surging off of a base wall and dropping right in front of the enemy :lol: never gets old i tell you.

Chaaos
2003-12-14, 12:39 AM
jumping is just dumb. How many special ops or SWAT team personel jumping up and down to dodge bullets.

Jumping is lame. Was lame in quake, was lame in CS, and its lame in planetside.

Kikinchikin
2003-12-14, 12:48 AM
I've only played CoD a few days, but I think it's against etiquette to jump to dodge bullets.

Vick
2003-12-14, 01:05 AM
Your all dumb. This is not fucking CS, we are not talking about bunnyhopping. There is a stamina penalty for jumps...

I just want to jump off the fucking ledge as I reload.

Chaaos
2003-12-14, 01:13 AM
How often do you jump off a ledge and reload? On the base walls or on a tower?

Hamma
2003-12-14, 01:14 AM
Half the time jumping is the only way I can keep from getting killed by a JH or lasher.

Fenrys
2003-12-14, 03:34 AM
So special forces don't jump around to dodge bullets? This is irrelevant because the people shooting at them are not aiming with a mouse, they are able to use cover more effectivly than just crouching down, and a single bullet is all it takes.

With the stamina penalty, things could never be like quake/cs. However, when I'm not shooting, I'd like to be dodging . . . and jumping around is the most effective way to dodge mouse-aimed bullets.

Ait'al
2003-12-14, 04:22 AM
You should be alowed to jump while reloading if it adds half a second to the reload time you are in the air. 8) that would fun and add some realy cool realistic elements to the game!\


And the didnt have 2 mb HDD when they had 23 mhz proccessor. they were 25 mhz proccessor later but those were when HDD were form quater gig to like 2 gigs bassically! a little less too. and the last proccessor at that time before P1s where 55 mhz. I think they were like less than a mhz whne there were 2 mb hard drives.

TeraHertz
2003-12-14, 04:35 AM
Chaaos, jumping WAS quake. Quake was/is an amazing fps. No game other than the quake games have gotten me into the "zone" where your full mind is focused on what you are doing, where you are going, where the enemy is, and being 10 steps ahead of them. Noting else is as fast paced and fun.

However you can't keep playing it becasue you can eventualy become so atuned to the movements you become almost psychic and it gets boring.


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KiKiNCHiKiN, sounds like a very odd outfit that reduces their member's combat ability using perfectly acceptable and legal actions. There is a stamina benefit you know. You cant just keep bunny hoping.

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Vick, I agree. Though, since i use a lasher, reload = death for me. If they don't go down in one clip and I ament in using my Speical AI loadout (primaily for use agains't the NC) I'm dead.

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Hamma, I dont really see how jumping is such a life saving major benefit unless it's off a cliff or wall. When do you use such a move, and with what armour?

(jumped from the very top of anwyn cavern to the bottom last night to survive a reaver attack - that was fun :p .)

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Fenrys, I agree. What I miss most about bf1942 when playing this game is the "Dive" option. diving to the ground....is it too much to ask psu? ok...so it would mean alowing "prone"......but come on O_

Ait'al
2003-12-14, 04:43 AM
Chaaos, jumping WAS quake. Quake was/is an amazing fps. No game other than the quake games have gotten me into the "zone"



Im going to find whre you live and kill you!!!

TeraHertz
2003-12-14, 04:51 AM
Im going to find whre you live and kill you!!!

Merry Christmas. :evil:

Ait'al
2003-12-14, 05:02 AM
Its the right season for red! :devilwink

Fenrys
2003-12-14, 05:20 AM
I dont really see how jumping is such a life saving major benefit unless it's off a cliff or wall. When do you use such a move, and with what armour?

I'm crouching, shooting at a charging nme. The clip runs dry, the nme closes and aims low, I jump to the side and over the bullets, the nme aims high, I go back to crouching and unload the new clip.



*edit* It's most usefull at close range, but it also helps when you need to dive for cover after that first sniper shot.

Flammey
2003-12-14, 11:52 PM
If you like jumping, try Unreal 2003 or 2004. That shit is the booooom baby. If you don't jump constantly, your going to lose.

Hamma
2003-12-15, 02:30 AM
Like it or not jumping is part of the game, you can't compare PS to real life. Its a valid tactic, the more you move the longer you live.

DoomWarrior
2003-12-15, 10:02 AM
Try This-

Take an AK 47* and remove its clip, now start running around jumping and try and reload it, it took me a few tries but it worked, but its not as effecient as just standing or crouching there doing it.


*I actually have an AK 47, but the government restricts me from having ammo, because i live in Canada.


O and the red actually comes from santa clause, which gets his red from Coke Cola, sad fact but its true.

TeraHertz
2003-12-15, 10:24 AM
Try This-

Take an AK 47* and remove its clip, now start running around jumping and try and reload it, it took me a few tries but it worked, but its not as effecient as just standing or crouching there doing it.


*I actually have an AK 47, but the government restricts me from having ammo, because i live in Canada.


O and the red actually comes from santa clause, which gets his red from Coke Cola, sad fact but its true.


I got this odd picture of a grown man in a lumberjack hat running around in the snow jumping and attempting to strafe. It's a funny image. No offence intended on the sterotypes there. You're right on the red and santa.
Santa as we know it is Coca Cola companies greatest marketing achievement but they did not infact create that image of santa. they standarsides it though.