Would you cert Lancer if......

[GreyFlcn]

It ran off of VS energy ammo?

Personally I think it would just rawk!!
www.greyfalcon.net/lancerlasher.jpg


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Lancer using "Green Box" energy ammo
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The Catch: Needs 15 Energy Ammo PER SHOT.


Storage per 'Cube' is Identical:


6.00 shots in 4x4 box = 0.375 per cube
3.33 shots in 3x3 box = 0.370 per cube
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Same Ammount. Same Size. Same Power.
Just a lot more Versitile.



So. Would you use it?

[Ait'al]

Yes but i would have used it anyway 8d


OH hell yes! got to put on that party dress....... :dance: I love Tom Petty! Last dance with Mary Jane. One more time to kill the Paaaiiinnn! I feel summer creeping in and i... gotta get outa this town agaaaiinnn!!!!! sorry! Wait i think i said that last part wrong!?

[TeraHertz]

I use the Lancer anyway. so, nyeh.

Fear it, for it owns you.

[ghost018]

Yeah, Lancer is pretty good. I haven't played with my VS character enough to really make an opinion on the ammo suggestion, but I remember it's great for taking out TR anchored MAX units. One of the only things I like about the Vanu Sovereignty. Too bad our Striker was nerfed to hell, or else I'd still have my AV Cert with my Terran.

ghost

[Zatrais]

I use the lancer whit my VS char, great for plucking off MAXs at distance so no ammo change needed imo.

[Eldanesh]

I would say only run the lancer off normal energy if... we get to use shotgun shells for the phoenix! ;)

However, it does fit in with the whole vs flexability thing.
I recall them saying at one point in the dev interview that they were going to be looking at the sizes of AV ammo boxes in the future. I would assume that in that case, if NC and TR were given smaller versions of their own, (but still different from normal ammo) then you would have a case for making VS use standard energy cells. But as it stands it hardly seems fair that VS would get to use small boxes that also can be used for other weapons while NC/TR have to run around with huge boxes that take up 3/4 of their invo.

[STEALTHKILLER]

I would say only run the lancer off normal energy if... we get to use shotgun shells for the phoenix! ;)

However, it does fit in with the whole vs flexability thing.
I recall them saying at one point in the dev interview that they were going to be looking at the sizes of AV ammo boxes in the future. I would assume that in that case, if NC and TR were given smaller versions of their own, (but still different from normal ammo) then you would have a case for making VS use standard energy cells. But as it stands it hardly seems fair that VS would get to use small boxes that also can be used for other weapons while NC/TR have to run around with huge boxes that take up 3/4 of their invo.

Hey, VS dont have to loot ammo boxs off NC and TR unless its for the AV, so they have an adv. in that aspect.

Besides, lancer owns.

[GreyFlcn]

:mad: :mad:
The Lancer is certed hardly at all compared to Striker and Phoenix.

www.greyfalcon.net/lancercert.jpg - www.thottbot.com/planetside/

It has no targeting, it has CoF expansion when you move the crosshair, it has a warm up time, and theres a signifigant delay when the shot hits at range.

Phoenix can currently kill a max slightly fast indoors. Much faster if the max is smart enough to use personal shield, or happens to be an NC max.
And the Phoenix user doesn't even need to be sitting out in the open for 7 seconds.

Striker, it's lock is a bit buggy. Devs already have that scheduled for a fix. Once thats all done, it can lock onto maxes.

Striker needs a locking buff, it's pretty gimp right now. Phoenix it's the only weakness it has is ammo supply. Otherwise it's perhaps a BETTER weapon than Decimator.

Before I proposed a 20% firepower increase to put Lancer back in balance, but that wouldn't make sence.

Instead Lancer should be a weapon that capitalizes on Player aiming skill and Versitility.

This change would do exactly that.

Doesn't raise it's ammo storage. It makes it like every other VS weapon, with a common energy source.

[GreyFlcn]

Ah yeh.

Forgot to mention. This means VS stuff would be easier to loot than ever before.

Whole point is that it would take 90 ammo to reload 6 shots.

[TeraHertz]

the striker hasa bug when locking onto maxs?
Thats why I wasnt killing a dam thing with it...

DOH!

[Rbstr]

no the pheonix sucks indoors with its one shot per magazine capability it takes forever to kill a max, its bang! wait 3 seconds, aim bang, repeat once more, its very unwieldy, the only time i can kill maxes with it is when i am behind somthing and fireing over a distance or sneaking up on them overe a moderate range

However i like this idea. Just give the pheonix a 2 shot clip and a 4 shot box, so it can spit out 2 missles in dumb fire resonably fast that doen't kill a max. Alos give the striker a 5 shot box

[GreyFlcn]

Which would you rather. Being forced to stay out in the open for 7 seconds, or reload twice for 3 seconds?

Staying out in the open against a max is bad for your health.

[ZionsFire]

Indeed, whenever I see a max out in the open, I start foaming at the mouth thinking to myself "Lights out!" And if those maxes could just see the grin on my face.....

[PsychoXR-20]

I think having the Lancer run of of standard energy cells would really help the Vanu and their "Versitility" aspect of weapons. Would probably also make it a MUCH more common weapon because they wouldn't have to carry aropund another type of ammo, and they get to use 2 other weapons as well.

[Ivan]

I was told to post here by GreyFlcn or he'd cut off my testicals and feed them to me. So here it is... :scared:

[GreyFlcn]

I would too ;P :groovy: :groovy: :evil:

[ZjinPS]

Bah they need to give a Decimator a Plasma load. They idea of a weapon that can cripple an armored vehicle but wont even part the hair of infantry is nuts.

This game would be more interesting if they would give us more ways to kill each other. Hell, I'd like to have a melee move and beat someone with my REK.

[Spee]

Bah they need to give a Decimator a Plasma load. They idea of a weapon that can cripple an armored vehicle but wont even part the hair of infantry is nuts.

This game would be more interesting if they would give us more ways to kill each other. Hell, I'd like to have a melee move and beat someone with my REK.


I see how that would be cool, but it just doesnt seem very likely youd do any damage, as every armor set aside form standard has some sort of helmet on it.

[TeraHertz]

An Action Quake 2 style soumersault kick for infils as an implant :p

(the one where you flip over somone, kicking them in the head at the same tim)

[GreyFlcn]

Lancer: High power AP Pulsar cannon. Uses the same ammo type at 15x the cost.

:)

[Flammey]

Meh, I can't answer the poll. Maybe wasn't an option. Neither was occassionally. I'd also have to either give up my vehicle, or give up Sniping. Which is a bad idea for me. I never know when that rifle might just be a good idea.

As for AV, it's only really useful against MAX's, and occassional stationary Air targets and Land targets. It takes too many shots to kill anything greater than Mosquito status. MS is Mosquito, Of course; Lightning; Harasser;and ATV's. Things like the AssBuggy, SkyGua, Del, Sun, and up, they have WAY too much armor for a Lancer. Now, if they made the Lancer a limited Homing arc, meaning, the shot would arc in it's firing stream towards your target, but not lock on, like striker.

[SandTrout]

All of the AV weapons need an ammo boost. Just shrink the boxes and I think everyone would be happy.

[GreyFlcn]

Sure would be nice if Devs would follow up on their own comments:
www.greyfalcon.net/ammo_changes.gif

[SandTrout]

If you haven't noticed, SOE says a lot of things, but is realy just beating off all day.

As the name of my ALT decares: Sony Is the Devil