stop crying about "uber" empires

[ace928]

please stop bichin because: a JH can kill me i two shots or other shit like that.

u dont know it but people are saying tta ur weapon of choice is uber too. so learn to use it effectively.

each empire hass its tactics to be most efficient.

TR
defensive let the enemies come to you, only once they are hitting u [retty hard should u run and wait for them again. u guys are superior at camping sapwn tubes, stairwells, doorways.

NC
offensive. stick with the zerg u are most effective that way. run in packs and tajke advantage of the strong shots and armor. make ur shots count u might not get a second(loud weapons)

vs
more of a guerrlia style, try to duck and shoot and move as much as possible. u cant take many hits so dont tand and fight like a western, DO get pot shots and oly when u have the advantage

[Gigabein]

I don't think people on this forum are "bitching" about empires so much as critiquing strategy exploits.

[Infernus]

I dont bitch about the guns... I bitch about the stupid bitches that bitch about the even stupider bitches that bitch about the guns... do that being said you clearly fit into the 'stupid btich that bitches about stupider bitches' category... Why am I wasting my time... why are you bringing up an annoying topic that no one cares about anymore- theres tons of worse thigns out there....

[Zatrais]

Its a game forum, talking bout weapons, equipment and vehicles is a big part of that...

What are we supposed to talk bout? The difference of a south solsar shrub over a northern shrub?

btw, you can't defend your way to victory ;)

[Belerion]

please stop bichin because: a JH can kill me i two shots or other shit like that.

u dont know it but people are saying tta ur weapon of choice is uber too. so learn to use it effectively.

each empire hass its tactics to be most efficient.

TR
defensive let the enemies come to you, only once they are hitting u [retty hard should u run and wait for them again. u guys are superior at camping sapwn tubes, stairwells, doorways.

NC
offensive. stick with the zerg u are most effective that way. run in packs and tajke advantage of the strong shots and armor. make ur shots count u might not get a second(loud weapons)

vs
more of a guerrlia style, try to duck and shoot and move as much as possible. u cant take many hits so dont tand and fight like a western, DO get pot shots and oly when u have the advantage

Been waiting to use this one.... :banplz:

Don't hurt me Hamma! :lol:

[TheRagingGerbil]

Think a weapon is overpowered? Kill the bitch and loot it off his body.

[Belerion]

Think a weapon is overpowered? Kill the bitch and loot it off his body.

ROFL! Or you could always do that too...

[Rbstr]

Gerbil has got the right idea. there may be things that are a bit unballenced but most empires make up for it in some other way, most of the time the empires are on a whole(not just on a single cont but all battles everywere) very equal. there are only 2 wepons ajustments that i would like to make (one vs on NC) but i don't bitch about them being underpowered.

[MuNsTeR]

yeah every empire has advantages and disadvantages

[(DSO)Ice-Eagle]

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU TR {newbies} WHINERS OUT THERE

just to make my formor eglish teachers happy let me start out with a outline

TR
Cycler-Bassicly a sniper rifle and MCG put together
Repeater-you can kill a MAX with this if you have AP rounds
Mini-chaingun-Virtully the "uber" weapon of all time ...
Striker-only AA/AT weapon that CAN Lock!
---
Maurader-3 passengers ... more then the other empires .... and has a gernade launcher
Prolwer-3 passengers (agian) bassicly a deliverer and tank put together
---
Burster-this SOB can kill vehicles, aircraft, infantry, other maxes, turrets
pounder-gernades for anti-inf .. this thing can kill aircraft(if still)vehicles,maxes,inf
Duel_cycler-...MG for anti-armor? the TR are really messed up.. and again this can kill inf, tanks, aircraft, other maxes
__________________________________________________ _______________
NC
Guass-aww come on you just have to admit this weapon SUCKS
Mag-scatter-... a shotgun pistol with 6 rounds ... SUCKS (no offense to you NC)
Jackhammer- OK weapon ... its good for whats its made for .. close range nothing else
Phoenix-ok now i gotta admit this baby is pretty good... and they added a dumb fire mode too .. but only 1 shot and slow reload time
---
Enforcer-this baby is cool looking yes ... but is bad at taking out inf,
Vanguard- ... this tank has most armor and big hits ... you TR win on this 1
---
Falcon-Ok weapon ... but has a hard time taking out inf/maxes but OK with AA/AT
Spearrow-this is the NC only locking AA gun .. and it can't lock on to maxes or vehicles like the striker can
Scatter-cannon-great weapon for anti-inf ... bad for ANYTHING else
__________________________________________________ _____________________
VS(my empire)
Pulsar-can take you out=penetrates shields and hit health 1st.. but not a lot of damage
Lancer-i have to admit ... this baby is good can take out maxes/light vehicles/inf
you guys win on this one
beamer-....... i don't have to say anything about this to prove it sucks
Lashar-can take out maxes/inf/vehicles yes but .. its like a flashlight you just follow the beam back to the person
---
Thresher-main weapon SUCKS but can run over people EASY=lots of kills=lots of grief
Magrider-same thing with Thresher
---
Quasar-good at taking out inf thats it
Starfire-good at taking out aircraft thats it
Comet-good at taking out maxes/inf/aircraft/vehicles
__________________________________________________ ___________

TR MAXES 3 out of 3 are good
TR Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good
TR Weapons 4 out of 4 are good
---thats 8 goods for the TR
VS MAXES 1 out of 3 good
VS Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good (sort of)
VS Weapons 1(2) out of 4 are good
---thats a total of 4(5) for the VS
NC MAXES 1 out of 3 are good
NC Vehicles 1 out of 2 are good
NC Weapons 2 out of 4 are good
---4 for the NC

TR=8
NC=4
VS=4

I REST MY CASE

[(DSO)Ice-Eagle]

hey i found a neat animation look

:father:

lol

[Jagd]

Yeah, your NUTCASE.

[(DSO)Ice-Eagle]

:stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :ban: ;) i live editing my posts

yeah nutcase

[Cauldron Borne]

No Body's 'uber' They are all equal. I will not suggest we all hold hands and jump off bridges, because I halted the last one of those attemps w/ a lib bomb. hehe, good ol' memories... Anyway do sumthin to that effect. I kill you in brotherly love scumbags. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOO BYEBYE!

[Vick]

Yeah... the empires are balanced... duh...

[Veteran]

just to make my formor eglish teachers happy let me start out with a outline

You'd end up in some grammar-Nazi's death-camp right quick, friend.

As for your list, it's garbage. With the exception of the Cycler, Burster and possibly the Marauder, all of TR's assets are the the game's worst. Sorry, but just claiming balance exists doesn't make it true. Any seasoned player will agree. As for MCG, you ruined your credibility by claiming it's the uber weapon. Sorry, that argument has been won by those intelligent enough to point out the Jackhammer's obvious superiority and Lasher's tactical supremacy. The best TR will choose the Cycler or Thumper over the MCG and spend the four credits on Ground Support or Air Cavalry. That's why TR fields so much tactical support.

When everyone told the VS to shut up at launch, and that all the empires were balanced, VS got a series of massive buffs. Were the people who claimed the game was balanced around launch ignorant and wrong? Of course, but the game was new. What's the excuse now? Are the people who claim balance exists now ignorant and wrong? Perhaps ignorant, definitely wrong, and due to be showed up when the devs yet again adjust balance.

Also, a thread that whines about perceived whining is a whining thread. Get it?

[Gigabein]

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU TR {newbies} WHINERS OUT THERE

Great way to establish credibility of your "skill" and the respect of the forum reader-ship.

Mini-chaingun-Virtully the "uber" weapon of all time ...

Here's where my left eyebrow raised independently of the right.

Maurader-3 passengers ... more then the other empires .... and has a gernade launcher
Prolwer-3 passengers (agian) bassicly a deliverer and tank put together

The Vanguard technically has a "gernade launcher" too, if you're describing the arched path of it's rounds. And I guess you must REALLY be impressed by the Galaxy. It holds WAAAY more than 3 passengers! Good thing it's common pool huh?

Mag-scatter-... a shotgun pistol with 6 rounds ... SUCKS (no offense to you NC)

Lemme guess. You hopped in surgile with mag-scatter and tried to bum-rush the back door hallway while it was defended?

Jackhammer- OK weapon ... its good for whats its made for .. close range nothing else

and close range doesn't count for ANY-FRICKIN-THING!!! Never mind the fact that you can surge-warp your way right up into the opponents face with it.

Vanguard- ... this tank has most armor and big hits ... you TR win on this 1

Everything you think you know, you don't.

Lashar-can take out maxes/inf/vehicles yes but .. its like a flashlight you just follow the beam back to the person

Which means the lasher should be used indoors (as should all heavy assault weapons)where your opponent will most likely die despite the fact they located you because of your "flashlight".

[SandTrout]

As for your list, it's garbage. With the exception of the Cycler, Burster and possibly the Marauder, all of TR's assets are the the game's worst.

Prowler= Highest DPS(damage per second) on the main guns of all the tanks and it another machine-gunner that can fend off infantry and aircraft or augment the 100mms' damage if neccisary. You know, you 1-shot infantry with your main guns just like the Vang, but you can fire faster.

Pounder= Esentialy the same DPS as it was pre-balance pass, but functionaly smaller magazine to reduce its power as a spam-master. Here is a hint: don't just spam with it, acctualy aim your fucking shots.

Striker= Still the best AV against aircraft, and it's good against light vehicles and incoming MAXes as well. You can move and still use this weapon, which you cannot do with the phoenix and cannot effectively do with the lancer.

MCG= Just about every HA user in my outfit prefers the MCG over the JH, but I don't have terribly much expirence useing it. It does have the best range of the HA and exelent DPS as well.

Repeater= essentialy an assault pistol for infiltrators, it has the best range of the pistols and is effective outdoors.

The TR equiment is fine, if you don't try to use it in the exact same way as you use the other empire's equipment.

Gauss= This rifle is highly underrated, probably because useing it is realy more of an artform than the cycler. I'll use it over the sweeper in a lot of indoor situations.

Magscatter= Good as a deffence weapon for cloakers against cloakers. My prefered weapon when infiltrateing for Hacks or sabotage. Anyone that is trying to get pistol kills uses an AMP anyways.

Phoenix= This is just a hella-fun weapon to use because you can hear the enemy scream when you get a hit. Exelent for picking off incomeing MAXes toward a base because you can fire from cover, but leaves you vunerable to snipers and infils. Worst DPS of all AV weapons.

Lancer= Slightly lower DPS than a stiker if memory serves me, but better TTK against MAXes because it only takes one magazine to kill a MAX. Can hit vehicles easaly and aircraft decently with practice.

Pulsar= I have to say, I freaking love this gun. It has an exelent COF on full auto(at least compared to the gauss). You don't have to worry about switching ammo types when fending off vehicles and MAXes, and in a large battle, this can make all the difference.

[flypengy]

I dont bitch about the guns... I bitch about the stupid bitches that bitch about the even stupider bitches that bitch about the guns... do that being said you clearly fit into the 'stupid btich that bitches about stupider bitches' category... Why am I wasting my time... why are you bringing up an annoying topic that no one cares about anymore- theres tons of worse thigns out there....

So what does that make you???

[Skullhead]

I think the Uber Empires are relativly balanced now.

[Cauldron Borne]

NC- You guys have THE HARDEST HITTING WEAPONS IN THE ENTIRE FRIGGIN GAME! Nobody can doubt this. BUT You all have the suckiest commanding and the worst variety/support eva!
VS- Pretty decent weapons I must say, nice MAX's and a fair tank. Good leadership, too. You guys are the best rounded in terms of weapon/tactics ratio. You just need to learn to focus yer attacks, so yer not spread so thin all the time.
TR- Simply the best rounded empire in terms of weapon choice, and it is because you have no real 'uber' weapon. You guys can hit anything that comes to you, I get scared when I here a TR squad is comin'. Your leadership is the best, in terms of squad and small outfits, TR are the only guys I've seen who can effectivly control their zergs at least SOME of the time. Props for copeing with a bad situation, ordinance wise.

[ace928]

what i mostly meant with the "strategies" for each empier are for the maxes tis is onlt because i always see people saying so and so's max is better. this is also only my opinion on proer techniques. and third maybe not on this forum but on other PS forums i see alot of bitchin but yes ther is in this forum

[JFPhoenix]

If you think a weapon is overpowered and you kill someone with that weapon then consider yourself a GOD.

[Rbstr]

There are only 3 things (one essencial fix(sp)) that are unbalanced.
I have recently played TR and VS and find the game to go very evenly for all of the empires. These are the things that i found to be unballenceing.

The essencial thing is the AV weps, they need to do far more AV damage i mean lots, but no more AA or AM damage at all.

The other two are the Gauss and Pulsar, they both pale in comparison to the cycler.
Right now the guass needs a very compotent user to use corectly, and thats why most people chose the JH. The guass needs a ROF decrease, a bigger punch, and a more accurate starting COF, but with the same expanded cof/cof expandature. all of these changes would be very minor. It would cut down on the JH users you so despise too.
The pulsar only has two things going for it, COF and built in AP. I would give the thing stacking plasma damage, like the starfire. And on AP instead of doing Damage to vechs do damage as if the vech weren't there, like the radiator does. making it far more versitile.

The last two a just things would make it better, but i don't hink its somthing that is more than just something that would be cool.

[SandTrout]

The problem with the pulsar geting DOT is that it would then be the best weapon for killing infiltrators because all of the DOT weapons cause a flame effect around the victem, esenentialy turning infils into walking beacons of gimpness. That AP mode is nothing to joke about either. I wouldn't mind seeing this on the beamer however, because that gun does suck. In order to destroy a deployable with it, you have to repeatedly shoot it, makeing you sniper bait, and jammers just don't have enough range. I realy think the MA is balanced.

Yes, NC guns hit the hardest per shot, but they have low ROF. 'Nuff said.

The one ajustment I could see to the game is a slight decrease in the Vanu MAXes' armor. I'm thinking about 50 less, nothing to signifigant. The reason for this being that their special ability is the only one that does not bring a curse with the blessing. The NC can't fire while the shield is up, and the TR can't move while anchored. The Vanu, however, do not give anything up to use their boosters, and the devs also buffed their turning speed, so circle-strafeing them like you do to other maxes doesn't work as well.

Vanu MAXes also have weapons supirior to the other empire's in several ways. The Commet probably does the best AI and AV damage of any of the AV MAXes, and it's easier to hit with than the Falcon. Commet DOT makes it great for locateing stealthers sans DLV. Starfire kills faster than the sparrow but not much slower than the burster, and it can lock on. The Quazar has the AP mode that has argueable usefulness, and definately has the best range of the AI MAXes.

[Spee]

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU TR {newbies} WHINERS OUT THERE

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:indeed:

[JetRaiden]

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU TR {newbies} WHINERS OUT THERE

just to make my formor eglish teachers happy let me start out with a outline

TR
Cycler-Bassicly a sniper rifle and MCG put together
Repeater-you can kill a MAX with this if you have AP rounds
Mini-chaingun-Virtully the "uber" weapon of all time ...
Striker-only AA/AT weapon that CAN Lock!
---
Maurader-3 passengers ... more then the other empires .... and has a gernade launcher
Prolwer-3 passengers (agian) bassicly a deliverer and tank put together
---
Burster-this SOB can kill vehicles, aircraft, infantry, other maxes, turrets
pounder-gernades for anti-inf .. this thing can kill aircraft(if still)vehicles,maxes,inf
Duel_cycler-...MG for anti-armor? the TR are really messed up.. and again this can kill inf, tanks, aircraft, other maxes
__________________________________________________ _______________
NC
Guass-aww come on you just have to admit this weapon SUCKS
Mag-scatter-... a shotgun pistol with 6 rounds ... SUCKS (no offense to you NC)
Jackhammer- OK weapon ... its good for whats its made for .. close range nothing else
Phoenix-ok now i gotta admit this baby is pretty good... and they added a dumb fire mode too .. but only 1 shot and slow reload time
---
Enforcer-this baby is cool looking yes ... but is bad at taking out inf,
Vanguard- ... this tank has most armor and big hits ... you TR win on this 1
---
Falcon-Ok weapon ... but has a hard time taking out inf/maxes but OK with AA/AT
Spearrow-this is the NC only locking AA gun .. and it can't lock on to maxes or vehicles like the striker can
Scatter-cannon-great weapon for anti-inf ... bad for ANYTHING else
__________________________________________________ _____________________
VS(my empire)
Pulsar-can take you out=penetrates shields and hit health 1st.. but not a lot of damage
Lancer-i have to admit ... this baby is good can take out maxes/light vehicles/inf
you guys win on this one
beamer-....... i don't have to say anything about this to prove it sucks
Lashar-can take out maxes/inf/vehicles yes but .. its like a flashlight you just follow the beam back to the person
---
Thresher-main weapon SUCKS but can run over people EASY=lots of kills=lots of grief
Magrider-same thing with Thresher
---
Quasar-good at taking out inf thats it
Starfire-good at taking out aircraft thats it
Comet-good at taking out maxes/inf/aircraft/vehicles
__________________________________________________ ___________

TR MAXES 3 out of 3 are good
TR Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good
TR Weapons 4 out of 4 are good
---thats 8 goods for the TR
VS MAXES 1 out of 3 good
VS Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good (sort of)
VS Weapons 1(2) out of 4 are good
---thats a total of 4(5) for the VS
NC MAXES 1 out of 3 are good
NC Vehicles 1 out of 2 are good
NC Weapons 2 out of 4 are good
---4 for the NC

TR=8
NC=4
VS=4

I REST MY CASE

absolutely retarded. Sparrow cant lock on to vehicles and MAXes? NO SHIT its AA and NOTHING ELSE. thats why its 2 cert points. You say for like the quasar "good for taking out infantry thats it." why do you think its certed under anti-INFANTRY MAX? it does its job. that was the most moronic review of all the weapons I have ever read. the MAG Scat rocks I use it with infil all the time. enforcer can take out agiles in 1 hit. get some exprience before you start telling people what the weapons are like.

[Rbstr]

but the thing is the guass doen't reflect the heavier hitting part, it just has the slower ROF, the thing sucks compered to the Cyclers as does the pulsar. Thats why i say raise damage some, and lower ROF a bit (but a bit more DOT than before). But if no plasma damge to the pulsar what should we do to it, i would think more versatility is the way to go, as in the Radiator like AP damage, and plasma stacking damage, if not stacking them what should be done to it?

[SandTrout]

I don't think anything needs to be done to the MA weapons. The Gauss DOES hit harder than the other MA weapons(I've tested it), the Pulsar is very vercitle b/c it only has one ammo sourse and doesn't need to take time to switch modes. Note that the Pulsar has (slightly) less recoil than the Cycler and signifigantly less recoil than the Gauss. The differences with the weapons are realy minor enough that while not differing too much to complicate things, they do fit the "flavor" of each empire.

Remeber people, just because something seems obviouse to you does not make it obviouse to everyone else, because your or their perspective may be skewed by ignorance/stupidity.

In Veteran's and Jagd's case, I'd go so far as to say they are intentionaly trying to scew the facts in order to get buffs for their empire.

[BabyJesus]

*cries*

[Tssha]

I drove the Thresher for months, but it wasn't until I had a chance to gun in one that I realized, that little gun is an enemy to ANYONE. You see a tank, you go ahead and shoot it. That weapon will take it out, provided you can dodge its shots for a while. Is there a MAX moving towards your base? Take it out. If you can keep the strykers off your tail (no small task), you can also get a fair number of kills among infantry. I tell you, I never had more fun than being behind the barrel of that gun. I found a new respect for the vehicle I once regarded as a hovering two-man transport, which I often drove without a gunner. Now I know, it's the right vehicle for me.

Keep your Harasser, that wimpy gun has nothing on me. I don't want the Mag-Rider, and I don't care if you can mow in it too, it's not the same. I don't care if there are better vehicles, I'm never giving up my Thresher.

[WritheNC]

I'm gonna sum up the NC since most TR and VS think we're coddled by the dev team.

We have no range. None. You cannot shoot back at a burster, standing on a base wall 300 meters away peeling the armor off your vanguard and expect to hit. By the time you get close to a magrider to do real damage with a vanguard, you have the same armor because they already put 5 shots into you, and now you have a distinct disadvantage(same armor, less maneuverability, less speed, and much more susceptible to aircraft).

I do think NC have the best infantry, but 40 infantry vs. 4 tanks equals 40 dead infantry.

As far as I know on Emeried, the NC will probably be in a decline soon. It feels like morale is down, as we are outdanced at every step, and our "all powerful, huge one shot weapons" do not have the speed to cover the ground necessary to retake capped towers and destroyed gens while we maintain an offensive. So we zerg. The notion, "massive enemy force" on an enemy's map draws all our enemies to us at one of their bases by saying, "Holy crap the NC are all over that place! They need help!". The only way our weapons are brought to bear is if we make you come to us.

We could win in other, better ways, but right now we're quite in the rut...and the days our zerging stops working is the day our players switch empires. And I don't think the TR or VS want that :D

[TheN00b]

Writhe, if you're so determined to make a difference, then please get CR5 ASAP. While we do have a couple of quality leaders, most of them just sit around and blab, or don't take the initiative to use any Chat beyond continental. We need some leaders who can fluently and effectively broadcast orders, while NOT spamming the global chat.

[Black]

There are very few "good" commanders i find in the NC (when i was on but i dont play NC anymore)
Most of the "good" ones are from konried they are the following:
Kaya
Jezebel
Spender
Winikten


and thats it... .most of them are great commanders and are to nervous to do a Global because they would get spammed beyond belief for no apparent reason

[Jagd]

Remeber people, just because something seems obviouse to you does not make it obviouse to everyone else, because your or their perspective may be skewed by ignorance/stupidity.

In Veteran's and Jagd's case, I'd go so far as to say they are intentionaly trying to scew the facts in order to get buffs for their empire.

Bait me once, shame on you. Bait me twice, shame on me.

So tell me, oh enlightened one, which empire do I serve? You are such a fricking moron it's not even funny. I play as VS and as TR, and if you read more than just one of my posts you would discover that I think things are balanced all around, except for Terran MAXes which could use a slight buff.

So how about it, pal? Enough with the faggetry. Please stop dragging my name into your moronic posts. There are enough idiots in my life without having some loser on the internet trying to tell people what my opinion is.

[Acaila]

THIS IS FOR ALL YOU TR {newbies} WHINERS OUT THERE

just to make my formor eglish teachers happy let me start out with a outline

TR
Cycler-Bassicly a sniper rifle and MCG put together
Repeater-you can kill a MAX with this if you have AP rounds
Mini-chaingun-Virtully the "uber" weapon of all time ...
Striker-only AA/AT weapon that CAN Lock!
---
Maurader-3 passengers ... more then the other empires .... and has a gernade launcher
Prolwer-3 passengers (agian) bassicly a deliverer and tank put together
---
Burster-this SOB can kill vehicles, aircraft, infantry, other maxes, turrets
pounder-gernades for anti-inf .. this thing can kill aircraft(if still)vehicles,maxes,inf
Duel_cycler-...MG for anti-armor? the TR are really messed up.. and again this can kill inf, tanks, aircraft, other maxes
__________________________________________________ _______________
NC
Guass-aww come on you just have to admit this weapon SUCKS
Mag-scatter-... a shotgun pistol with 6 rounds ... SUCKS (no offense to you NC)
Jackhammer- OK weapon ... its good for whats its made for .. close range nothing else
Phoenix-ok now i gotta admit this baby is pretty good... and they added a dumb fire mode too .. but only 1 shot and slow reload time
---
Enforcer-this baby is cool looking yes ... but is bad at taking out inf,
Vanguard- ... this tank has most armor and big hits ... you TR win on this 1
---
Falcon-Ok weapon ... but has a hard time taking out inf/maxes but OK with AA/AT
Spearrow-this is the NC only locking AA gun .. and it can't lock on to maxes or vehicles like the striker can
Scatter-cannon-great weapon for anti-inf ... bad for ANYTHING else
__________________________________________________ _____________________
VS(my empire)
Pulsar-can take you out=penetrates shields and hit health 1st.. but not a lot of damage
Lancer-i have to admit ... this baby is good can take out maxes/light vehicles/inf
you guys win on this one
beamer-....... i don't have to say anything about this to prove it sucks
Lashar-can take out maxes/inf/vehicles yes but .. its like a flashlight you just follow the beam back to the person
---
Thresher-main weapon SUCKS but can run over people EASY=lots of kills=lots of grief
Magrider-same thing with Thresher
---
Quasar-good at taking out inf thats it
Starfire-good at taking out aircraft thats it
Comet-good at taking out maxes/inf/aircraft/vehicles
__________________________________________________ ___________

TR MAXES 3 out of 3 are good
TR Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good
TR Weapons 4 out of 4 are good
---thats 8 goods for the TR
VS MAXES 1 out of 3 good
VS Vehicles 2 out of 2 are good (sort of)
VS Weapons 1(2) out of 4 are good
---thats a total of 4(5) for the VS
NC MAXES 1 out of 3 are good
NC Vehicles 1 out of 2 are good
NC Weapons 2 out of 4 are good
---4 for the NC

TR=8
NC=4
VS=4

I REST MY CASE
Of Vat69 I assume?

I am too lazy to disect your concentrated stupidity in a quote by quote basis. I will say you show remarkably little practical knowledge of the game. Have you actually played it?

[sutserikeru]

Think a weapon is overpowered? Kill the bitch and loot it off his body.
:stupid:

[Jagd]

Too bad it doesn't work for MAXes. :groovy:

[WritheNC]

Writhe, if you're so determined to make a difference, then please get CR5 ASAP.

I don't know if I'm determined or not just yet. My job is retail and I'll have time after christmas.

I was just making an observation though. There are many ways we can turn it around now that I have thought about it ;)

[SandTrout]

To those of you who think the increased rate-of-fire is so amazing, remember that without being locked down it takes longer to kill a Re-Exo with your Pounder than it does for him to wipe you out with AP rounds in a damn Sweeper.
The reason I dislike you, JagD, is because you post utter bullshit like the above quote even if it is not from this particular thread. As for who you serve, I think you're just trying to get the TR MAXes overpowered once again.

The only reason for claiming that you play multipule empires is to assure readers that your information is not scewed by takeing only one perspective to the problem. This leads me to believe that your information is intentionly erronious, and because you spread such crap around the forums, I feal it is my obligation to shield the uninformed from your missinformation by discrediting you as much as possible.

[Cauldron Borne]

big words, me not so smat, man. isa play all empires. isa have two vs charas, and i dont even LIKE teh vs.............. i only have one of each of the others, and my fav is the tr..... and nc.....

[Muddog82]

ice-eagle ... bottem line is .. you are a dork ..

sure i'm VS too ... but killing a MAX with a repeater .. sure its possible with like maybe 500 AP shots

by that time ... you are already dead




oh and don't bitch about my BR ... my acount got deleted after CC came out ..

was BR20 CR3 ...

and ice-eagle i think if i were your eglish teacher i would give you a F-

[Muddog82]

absolutely retarded. Sparrow cant lock on to vehicles and MAXes? NO SHIT its AA and NOTHING ELSE. thats why its 2 cert points. You say for like the quasar "good for taking out infantry thats it." why do you think its certed under anti-INFANTRY MAX? it does its job. that was the most moronic review of all the weapons I have ever read. the MAG Scat rocks I use it with infil all the time. enforcer can take out agiles in 1 hit. get some exprience before you start telling people what the weapons are like.

i argree with you ... except on the fact with the enforcer ..

the enforcer is well .. when on bumpy rides very inaccurate

and DSO ice eagle?
he is a newbie ... he used to TK ... he got rid of his name and used a new one

don't know what it is though

[Jagd]

The reason I dislike you, JagD, is because you post utter bullshit like the above quote even if it is not from this particular thread. As for who you serve, I think you're just trying to get the TR MAXes overpowered once again.

The only reason for claiming that you play multipule empires is to assure readers that your information is not scewed by takeing only one perspective to the problem. This leads me to believe that your information is intentionly erronious, and because you spread such crap around the forums, I feal it is my obligation to shield the uninformed from your missinformation by discrediting you as much as possible.

You can call it hyperbole if you like, but bullshit it is not. I must admit, I'm strangely flattered to have ignited such fervour in a random troll like yourself. The bizarre leaps of logic you make absolutely astound me... You're right, I created a Vanu character just to keep up appearances. Do you know how absurd that sounds? You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to think that:

A) PSU posts will convince the devs to buff or nerf whatever we want.
B) I am so obsessed with getting TR buffs that I created a Vanu character to hide my true intentions.
C) You have the intelligence or critical thinking skills to discredit me.

Anyways, since you have made your intentions clear to us all, feel free to follow me around and post contrary opinions as often as you like. I'm sure an angry little boy like you won't say anything to embarass himself.

[Veteran]

I've found most of Jagd's insights to be valid, except when they contradict me, naturally. If you maneuver around a non-anchored Pounder, you'll see first hand how weak those grenades are, and how TR MAXs are deliberately designed to be weak so that when anchored, they aren't grossly powerful, even though being grossly powerful is what being anchored is supposed to be about, instead of just being Decimator bait.

As for ripping on Jagd, or anyone for that matter, it's poor form.